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Reply #40 digitizer's post
thanks alot blackmore for the info... i guess i just have to face it.. maybe ada hukmahnya... but i cannot imagine betapa sakitnye lepas surgery.. |
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Originally posted by cik_bedah at 13-3-2007 13:57
thanks alot blackmore for the info... i guess i just have to face it.. maybe ada hukmahnya... but i cannot imagine betapa sakitnye lepas surgery.. ...pain after surgery memang expected...but...pain is something yang we can control...nowadays...there are so many pain relief medications and methods yang available and which is relatively safe... |
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Reply #37 blackmore's post
ishkk... buat takut jer pos ko tu lerr... ngeri plak aku baca... |
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Reply #43 tomatto_gurl's post
itu la realiti kehidupan....tiada yg indah........ |
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kanser ni sekarang memang kerap kita dengari...alhamdulillah my hubby baru di sahkan oleh doktor sudah bebas dari penyakit ni..kansar peti suara setelah selamat menjalani 20 kali radioterapi...yang amat sengsara masa dia menjalani tempoh rawatan tersebut langsung tak boleh nak makan dan minum selama 2 minggu..tetapi doktor pesan setiap kali temujanji yang ditetapkan mesti di ikuti jangan mis..sebab penyakit ni boleh datang kembali (berulang) jika tidak mendapat pemeriksaan yang berterusan...juga jgn merokok dan jaga pemakanan.. |
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Reply #45 sofeaz's post
ye la..takut relaps....itu slalu nyer kalau terjadi,teruk gak tu.. |
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aku ada kawan baik yg kena kanser dah dia pun dah pulang ke rahmatullah...
kami sama2 study....pernah duduk satu rumah satu bilik....
orgnya baik sekali.....dia kerja di rtm...di KL ni dulu kami selalu lah jumpa bila ada lapang....since kitaorg pun tak jauh sgt jarak...
tapi since keja KL tiap kali jumpa dia mesti lemah badan..dia citer buat rawatan sumer...sampai disahkan kanser saraf tak silap aku...
i thought she can recover...
then....dia selalu gak la admit hospital....doing operation demi operation....masa tu aku lama tak tengok dia...
kali pergi IJN....aku terperanjat sungguh dia jadi kurussss sgt2, tinggal tulang. Nak makan pun susah...perlu bantuan nak bernafas sekali sekala.
Sedih sgt aku tengok dia....sampai dia nasihat aku jgn lah wish nak kurus ker (aku ni plum la jugak)....dia kata yg penting dlm hidup ni biar kita sihat.
Aku ingat ayat dia .." kalau dah jadi mcm At** ni..satu apa pun tak boleh nak buat...."
Masa tu dia dah kira MC almost a year gak..duduk kampung, buat rawatan kimo.
so as friend..aku bagi sokongan pada dia...kalau dia bosan dia akan tepon aku...aku akan layan dia borak walaupun lama giler ker..sbb dia perlu kawan untuk bercerita. last kami berhubungan oktober 2005 then....masa december 2005 kawan kelas aku bg tau dia dah meninggal....aku tau lewat sehari.
sedih gilerrr aku.....itupun pasal kawan baik kami lagi sorang tergerak hati nak call dia.
apa pun yg penting ko doakanlah kesejahteraann kawan ko tu.....treat her/him as a friend...bukan sbg org sakit.... |
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Reply #44 firdaruddin's post
memang.. hidup ini mmg tak selalunya indah.. sekali sekala allah beri dugaan pada kite.. mungkin sebab kite dah mula lupakan dia.. sebab tu dia nak bagi kite ingat sikit... |
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sofeaz , NonaNaga , missuzu ...
tahank you for sharing your experience with me.. at least i tak rasa keseorangan...
sekarang pun i baru dapat terima keadaan.. |
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Originally posted by blackmore at 16-3-2007 03:53 AM
...u noe...bila aku nak buat posting nie ek...aku fikir punya fikir camna aku nak do it so that cik bedah kita akan dapat memahami ngan senang dan jelas...
...selain daripada penerangan melal ...
cik bedah tak rasa takut pun.. we have to face it whether we like it or not... mula2 maybe rasa x selesa tapi treat it for knowledge gaining... so, tak salah kite tau isi perut kita nih... macam cik bedah sekarang nih, tak tau pun apa benda dalam kolon atau rektum tuh tapi disebabkan ingin tahu, lepas search internet & info dari kawan kite blackmore tuh, tau laa sikit sebanyak ttg tuh.. thanks |
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ok.. now cik bedah nak tau kalau sesapa yg experience colostomy... & kena pakai beg untuk waste dari badan kite...
and, based on 3 opinions from different doctors, if cancer too close to anus, they have to sewn completely the anus after cancer being removed...
ada opinion lain tak..
sorry kalau nyusah kan korang tapi cik bedah nak tau sangat2 nih... i dont have much time.. |
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Reply #50 cik_bedah's post
tau...faham sgt ayat tu... |
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Originally posted by cik_bedah at 16-3-2007 14:18
ok.. now cik bedah nak tau kalau sesapa yg experience colostomy... & kena pakai beg untuk waste dari badan kite...
and, based on 3 opinions from different doctors, if cancer too close to a ... ...what other opinions yang dorang kasi??...kata ada 3 opinions from different doctors...
...most important opinion yang matters are those yang from the oncologist (cancer specialist) dan the colorectal surgeon...cos these 2 pple will be the ones yang banyak involved with his management and treatment care plan...
...slalunya...these pple will work together as a team...colorectal surgeon would be the most important person becos he is the one yang akan membuat operasi nie...base on his good surgical judgement...he will decide what is best for the patient...and...how far he can proceed to clear the tumor too...
...sometimes...theres limited yang dorang can do for the patient..nie pon kita kena tau jugak...cos walaupon mereka akan cuba sedaya upaya untuk membuang atau resect as much tumor size as they can...ada jugak instances whereby they cant do much in view of the tumor size and its involvement to other major organs...which kalaupon they proceed to resect...may result in massive bleeding and damage...
...u mentioned about possibility of a colostomy...which is very common in bowel resection surgery...and u also mentioned of the anus being sewn completely...now...if the anus is going to be sewn...then...he will end up with a permanent colostomy...
...before surgery...usually...they will refer him to a stoma therapist (enterostomal therapist) for a stoma siting...the therapist will locate a suitable location for the stoma and make a marking for the surgeon...
...and the stoma therapist will also visit him post operatively to manage the stoma for the first few days...until he can learn and take care of the stoma himself...
...there are so many stoma appliances and bags yang available...nie semua akan diperkenalkan to him by the stoma therapist...stoma powder and paste to prevent ulceration of the skin...the different types of stoma bags and wafers...etc etc...
...counselling on change in dietary habits and foods to be avoided jugak akan diberikan...
...counselling on lifestyle adaptations and changes in self image jugak akan diberi perhatian jugak...cos...most of the time...pesakit akan merasa depressed knowing that they will have to live with the colostomy...
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Reply #55 blackmore's post
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ada satu cara utk save the anus which is to remove the tumor only, tapi dr. kata recurrent rate very high... i tgh fikir mana tau kite pergi berubat traditionally spt yg baldu_biru cerita then akan cancer tu boleh hilang... |
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Reply #54 firdaruddin's post
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Suggestion of Treatment
2 option given:
1) Laparoscopic: but still has to do colostomy
2) Radiation (25 times) + chemo
Both option have side effect of sexual problem. and doktor kata radiation akan kecutkan cancer but itu pun pun kalau bernasib baik.. kalau boleh kitaorg nak avoid colostomy.. ada sesapa yg ada info tak ttg nih...
Laparoscopic pula ada pendapat dari dr lain yg kata laparoscopic pun abit bahaya becos dr tak boleh tengok keseluruhan organ, kalau APR diorang boleh terus buang kalau nampak something weird.. |
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Reply #8 cinta_ungu's post
Cinta, sdh bgt..
Buat Ama, bersediala terima apa jua keputusan later coz dis is wat we call NIKMAT from Him n must be something HIKMAH behind it!! Salah satu ujian drNya..Sedih baca cita u ni tmbh pulak aku mmg ada xprnce b4.. My roomte ms blaja dl..
Arwah ni tua setahun dr aku..N ms mula2 tu kami mmg xbrapa rapat, but we slow2 built that rltnshp as a gud fren..alhamdulillah I found her sbbnyer dia byk nasihatkn aku ttgg hdp ni, espeselli about coupling..ayt2 dia mmg akn aku igt smpai bl2, even msg2 dia aku xdelete till 2day..
Dia slalu ngadu kat aku sakit blakang, tangan, lenguh2..tp, aku igtkn biasala sbb time tu kitorang tgh practical training kt tmpt msg2..n unfortunately, tmpt practikal arwah jauh sket dr rmh..kuar awal pg, balik nk kul 9..so, aku simpulkan simptom2 tu coz of that la..PENAT..
The last time we had time 2gether during our IBADAH CAMP..n dia mmg x participate dlm 1 actvt tu..ms tu mmg muka dia nmpk cm penat sgt..Pastu kami xcntct2 until dia ditahan kt sepital melaka..Peparu berair..ms dia admitted ni, aku terkilan sgt sbb x pg..dr apa yg mmber aku stori, bdn dia dh mmbengkak mcm belon n kena operate..astaghfirullah..aku try call dia pon xdpt2..
Until dia admitted for second time, sbb dia pengsan kt rmh nenek dia..bwk spital yg sama, but dis time dorang kata xleh nk tlg ape2 dah..so transfer ke HKL..Ropenyer saspek kanser paru2 n dia menjalani rawatan pertama kimo..Ms ni aku dh plan dh nk g mlawat sbb mmber2 aku yg kt KL dh g mlawat n update kt aku ttg dia, smkin tenat, tp Allah Yg Maha Kuasa, kwn aku yg dok KL mesej aku kt dia dh kritikal..doakanlah dia seadanya..
N subuh keesokan nye, 24/08/2006, kwn2 aku tepon dia dh xda lg di dunia ni..betapa cepatnye masa berjalan..aku merancang, Allah saja yg menentukan..
AKu emergency leave hr tu n pg mlwt dia 4 d last time kt Padang Sebang, Alor Gajah, Melaka..teringat semula kenangan kami bersama, espeselli g studi kt library UIA..
Nila msg terakhir yg ditulis oleh adik arwah kt aku, dapat ms on my way 2 melaka:
"Assalamualaikum. Saya adik kak yani nk kabarkan kak yani dah kembali ke rahmatullah pukul 3 pagi td. Sy bg pihak arwah nk mintak maaf jika arwah pernah buat silap n salah dan guna pakai barang @ wang..harap dihalalkan.."xhenti2 aku nangis ms drive tu..moga dia ditempatkan dikalangan mukmin beriman..Ameen..
**kepada Ama n semua yg pernah dan sedang mglm pnglmn cmni, berilah sokongan kpd mereka dgn berdoa, kata2 smgt kerana suma ni kita xtau..ada yg kritikal, at last survive..but some yg lebih disayangi, tanda2 tu dtg sekejap aje, n trus tinggalkn kita wat slamanya.. |
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