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Pedang Katana

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Post time 10-6-2011 05:28 PM | Show all posts
Pedang Tachi = Dikenali sebagai '' Saber '' digunakan oleh Askar Kalvari

Pedanag Katana = Digunak ...
HangPC2 Post at 10-6-2011 04:50 PM



    ko ni banyak betul kasik gambar. tak larat aku nak bubuh kredit.   

go on dengan gambor. we want gambor. hehehehe     
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Post time 10-6-2011 07:00 PM | Show all posts
ko ni banyak betul kasik gambar. tak larat aku nak bubuh kredit.   

go on dengan gam ...
winamp05 Post at 10-6-2011 17:28




ok lah saya letak gambar.......
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Post time 11-6-2011 04:54 PM | Show all posts
WWII Japanese Military Gunto



Kyu Gunto Army Sabre





Kai Gunto Naval Officer's Sword (NCO)





Type 98 Officer's Sword





Type 95 Non Commissioned Officer's (NCO) Sword of World War II, made to resemble a Commissioned Officer's Shin Gunto










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Post time 11-6-2011 05:20 PM | Show all posts
Reply 76# HangPC2

oh, ni citer yang king richard tunjukkan kehebatan pedang dia dulu kan? pastu sultan saladin tunjukkan pulak kehebatan pedang arab...tpi citer penuhnyer mcm mana ek?
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Post time 11-6-2011 06:56 PM | Show all posts
Reply  HangPC2
oh, ni citer yang king richard tunjukkan kehebatan pedang dia dulu kan? pastu sultan saladin tunjukkan pulak kehebatan pedang arab...tpi citer penuhnyer mcm mana ek?
zaharul_asriq94 Post at 11-6-2011 17:20



Salahuddin al-Ayyubi dan Richard The Lion Heart


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Post time 13-6-2011 04:48 PM | Show all posts
wow info yg bagus, aku suka benda gini
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Post time 14-6-2011 01:21 AM | Show all posts
Selalunya Orang salah anggap dengan Pedang Jepun.....  Pedang Gunto pun Orang Panggil Pedang Samurai.....


mungkin sebab tak tahu makna Samurai '' Kasta Pahlawan ''
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Post time 18-6-2011 06:20 PM | Show all posts
Samjeongdo (삼정도 / 三正刀)



Samjeongdo (삼정도 / 三正刀) the sword given to newly promoted Korean military generals each year by the Ministry of National Defense.














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Post time 18-6-2011 06:29 PM | Show all posts
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Post time 27-6-2011 06:54 PM | Show all posts
Indian Army Military Sword




General V.K Singh being presented a Sword on being apointed Honorary Colonel of the Regiment of the skinners Horse, in Meerut on October 01, 2010.


Sources : http://frontierindia.net/five-in ... esented-the-colours


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Post time 27-6-2011 10:17 PM | Show all posts
Pernah tengok Mythbusters tak??
Diorang ada satu team yang suka wat experiment tentang mitos2 efek2 khas yang ditunjukkan dalam filem..Macam citer Count of Monte Cristo..adegan pedang membelah pedang tue..

Dalam satu episod tue,ada yang diorang buat eksperimen tentang pedang2 nie..
Pedang katana lawan pedang Roman..Pedang Katana lama lawan pedang buatan tangan..Macam2 lah..
Best giler tengok..Cubelah carik..

Apa-apa pun TT,nice info meyh..
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Post time 27-6-2011 10:27 PM | Show all posts
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SPINOFF: A sword can cut a machine gun in two. (From special 9)
BUSTED

A machine gun barrel cannot be sliced in two using a sword. Using the barrel from a .30 caliber Browning machine gun, the team heated the barrel until it was red hot and struck it with the sword machine. Even with the barrel red hot, the sword could only make a small gouge in the barrel. What further disproved the myth was the fact that the barrel’s outer heat-dissipating shroud was removed and the machine was swinging the sword with power that significantly exceeded a normal human’s capabilities. The team then rapidly heated and cooled the barrel to make it more brittle, but when hit by the sword, it shattered instead of being cut. Finally, the team tried to cut a thinner Thompson submachine gun barrel, but only managed to bend it, proving that a sword cannot cut a gun barrel in two.


Komen Satu..

The japanese were years ahead in sword manufacturing technique. The ancient masters made incredible blades.

And yet, they are nowhere NEAR as sharp or strong as legends make them out to be. Katana are by nature no sharper or stronger than other blades, other than the fact the Japanese smiths developed smithing techniques faster than the western world.

Notice how the Katana actually chipped and broke with each machine gun shot? Now consider that the bullets ARE FAR SOFTER than the barrel of a gun. That’s intentional.

If the sword struck the gun with the same force, the blade would similarly chip, and thus would be attempting to cut with a dull edge.

It will never happen people. The ancient sword masters were legendary for their time, but they weren’t magic.


Komen Dua..

I also have a complaint whether the sword used was a Katana or not, it looked like a European sword to me, katanas are no ordinary swords, they have a carbon core and a special metal called “tamahagni” as the cutting end this metal is only found in Japan & is made from a special kind of soil

Komen Tiga...

I saw this ‘myth’ the first time and immediately caught the error. Then they revisited it and made the exact same error.

My understanding of the myth is a USMC machine gunner experienced a Samurai swordsman cutting his gun barrel in h
alf during the Pacific phase of WW2.

Several thoughts lead to a plausible conclusion regarding the myth. The US Army, with the exception of the Philippine Islands, had very little role in the Pacific phase of the war. By command decision most of the fighting in the Pacific was done by the Marines. So that part is plausible. Then we come to the weapons which is where I believe Myth Busters were led astray by Hollywood. Myth Busters chose a Browning designed air cooled 1919 machine gun as their test weapon. In the early days of the conflict there was a real shortage of those amongst the Marines. They had plenty of the Browning water cooled versions, but they weren’t suited for mobility and island hopping.

What the USMC had in their inventory and what saw a lot of Pacific action was an assortment of pistols, some (borrowed from the US Post Office) Thompsons, the Johnson M1941 machine gun (MG) and 1903 and 1917 rifles and (a precious few of) the Johnson 1941 rifle. You can find a picture of the Johnson MG at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1941_Johnson_machine_gun and some basic info. Very few of these survived the war (I believe most of ours were lend-leased to Venezuela after WWII) in private hands, so when Hollywood makes a WW2 movie showing our Marines they typically give them left over Army weapons such as Browning 1919s, Garands and BARs. A false reality. They didn’t get those goodies until much later in the war. I believe the Myth Busters fell into this Hollywood inaccuracy trap.

Yes the Browning 1919 MG has a heavy thick barrel and even yellow hot the barrel would be hard to cut with a sword. And there is a full length ventilated steel jacket surrounding the barrel which the sword would also have to cut through. Neither of these is true of the Johnson.MG as used by the USMC.

The Johnson MG used basically the same thin barrel as the Johnson 1941 rifle. You can find more info on that at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1941_Johnson_rifle . That steel is a LOT thinner than the barrel of a Browning 1919. The Johnson was used by the Marines in many of the early island battles. The fact that it was a Johnson also explains the mystery of how a swordsman could get close enough to attack the machine gunner. The Browning was fed by a large ammo belt. When facing a Browning 1919 charging foot soldiers were usually mowed down long before they got close enough to even think about swinging a sword. Conversely, the Johnson was fed by a 30 round stick magazine which allowed attackers to rise up and continue every 30 shots, and it didn’t like either sand or mud. One thing those islands had lots of was sand and mud. It is not at all inconceivable to me that some of a few hundred charging Japanese soldiers would make it to a Johnson gunner who had to stop shooting for a few seconds every 30 shots while he inserted a new magazine, nor is it inconceivable to me that the Marine would soon be fighting hand to hand as so many found themselves doing in those early island battles. Now we are down to the test.

Please re-run the sword test, but this time do it a little more accurately. Continue to use a properly tempered sword (even the cheaper Japanese NCO swords had decent steel and reasonable tempering), but please use a Johnson MG barrel. I recognize that this might cost a little more since they are rarer. Alternatively, you could find an original Johnson MG (there are a (very) few in private hands), measure it’s barrel, then find or machine a .30 caliber barrel of similar dimensions.
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Post time 28-6-2011 10:38 AM | Show all posts
wah.
dapat pedang ni mmg beh le.

leh belah pokok.
then leh jd mcm ronoroa zoro.
hikhikhikhik..
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Post time 28-6-2011 02:21 PM | Show all posts
bergantung kepada teknik pertempuran Katana @ Uchigatana sesuai digunakan dalam '' Pertempuran dekat '' kalau nak melibas sesuai digunakan Pedang Jenis Tachi (kebanyakan Pertempuran mengunakan Kuda @ Kalvari)
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Post time 30-6-2011 05:04 PM | Show all posts
Gunto Demo





Officer of the imperial guard demonstrating the Gunto sword cutting power to Malaya (Malaysian) civilians (Singapura 1942)



Sources : http://www.ww2incolor.com/


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Post time 2-7-2011 11:47 AM | Show all posts
Gunto



Mounting (Koshirae)




























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Post time 2-7-2011 12:49 PM | Show all posts
Post Last Edit by HangPC2 at 2-7-2011 12:52

Gunto



Other Gunto (Command saber / Marshal Sword / Presentation Sword / Army Artillery Sidearms / Bayonet Type 30, 44, 2 & Murata





Army Gunto Of A Imperial Gift










Shin Gunto Army Type 98 (Army General) - Tomoyuki Yamashita


Blade Manufacture (Mino Gendaito) : Fujiwara Kanenaga








Kai Gunto Navy Type Tachi






NCO Officer Army Type 95 (Low Quality)








Sources : http://www.h4.dion.ne.jp/~t-ohmura/gunto_002.htm



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Post time 2-7-2011 01:18 PM | Show all posts
Gunto - Low Quality Sword Factory







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Post time 3-10-2011 02:30 PM | Show all posts
kebanyakan dekat Malaysia banyak pedang Gunto yang kurang berkualiti......
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Post time 3-10-2011 04:47 PM | Show all posts
salah sebab utama Monggol invasion of Japan dengan 100,000 orang tentera monggol, korea dan china gagal adelah sebab = penggunaan pedang ni...



comparison dia mcm.. Gatling Vs Rifle
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