Susu untuk baby yang ada reflux

asas85

Salam..
Anak saya baru 2minggu, and paeds dah sahkan anak saya ada reflux.. sebab minggu lepas, bila minum susu je, lepas burp, baby akan muntah dgn banyak, kesiankan baby terus bawak jumpa paeds. Kena admit untuk observation for a night and kena buat ultrasound and blood test. Anak saya minum campur, fm and bm. (baby tak mau df kat saya sebab nipple flat, dah cuba tarik2, urut2 and guna nipple shield tapi tak berjaya jugak, mengamuk2 baby bila paksa df) so saya pump susu and bagi guna bottle.

So far from the ultrasound and bloodtest, everything normal, so paeds diagnose baby ada reflux or gerd. and dah prescribe 2 jenis ubat untuk baby and suggest untuk tukar susu. Before check dgn paeds sy guna susu s26, then paeds suggest utk guna novalac AR.

So far guna novalac AR baby dah tak muntah and dpt minum dgn banyak..but masalahnya sekarang baby macam poo poo keras. kesian tengok baby teran2 merah muka..

Nak mintak pendapat or experience parents2 kat sini yang mana ada anak yang ada reflux or gerd nih.. susu ape lagi yang sesuai untuk baby with this condition? Anak2 parents yang guna novalac AR ada masalah poo poo keras tak? Risaunya saya..

peahjamboo

reflux @ gerd ni mcm mane eyk...explain more pls...

adekjeli

Reply 1# asas85


    raseye enfalac pun ade yg AR ni....hage ye agak mahal la sket tuk 1 tin...

asas85

reflux @ gerd ni mcm mane eyk...explain more pls...
peahjamboo Post at 7-3-2012 10:38

reflux or gerd ni dimana babies especially newborn yang selalu muntah after feeding walaupun dah diburpkan.. Ni disebabkan oleh usus baby yg tak matang. Mostly babies yg newborn ni mmg usus tak matang but ada certain babies yg condition dia lebih sket dimana dia akan muntah setiap kali feeding.. selalunya by 6-7 months baby akan dah takde reflux nih..but ada certain yg sampai setahun baru hilang reflux nih but ada small precentage yg sampai besar ada reflux..
utk babies yg reflux, kalau minum susu formula ada certain susu formula je yg boleh dia minum. contohnya macam Novalac AR (AR ni anti regugitasi) susu AR ni dia pekat sket, so akan kurangkan muntah after feeding tu..ape pon jumpa paeds dulu, kalau ok je baby tu paed tak prescribe utk minum susu AR. kalau minum susu ibu, mmg kena makesure baby burp and after burp tu takleh nak letak terus atas tilam, kena pegang dulu baby dlm keadaan mcm tegak tu org keadaan baring yg tinggi utk 30mins..

baby yg ada reflux ni selalu hiccup and burp dia mcm bunyi burp basah tuh ala2 mcm termuntah but actually tak muntah.. Reflux is normal kecuali bila baby tak naik berat..

asas85

Reply  asas85


    raseye enfalac pun ade yg AR ni....hage ye agak mahal la sket tuk 1 tin...
adekjeli Post at 7-3-2012 12:23

   ada, but baby tak berapa sesuai dgn enfalac AR tu and kalau ikutkan paeds, paeds lagi recommend novalac dari enfalac

peahjamboo

Reply 4# asas85


   ok, noted...actually, smlm pun saye ade bace psl reflux ni kat majalah mami & baby (beli majalah last wix, baru smlm nk bace...), kat artikel tu ade mentioned, kite biase assume susu yg pekat ni antara solution utk diorg, padehal sbenarnye susu yg tekstur die ringan iaitu susu ibu la yg tbaik utk mereka...sori asas, saye nk tnye, u x bf bb ke? x try pump?

asas85

Reply  asas85


   ok, noted...actually, smlm pun saye ade bace psl reflux ni kat majalah mami & ...
peahjamboo Post at 8-3-2012 08:50

ape pon mmg susu ibu is the best milk, i tak bf bby sbb my nipple flat and bby tak pandai nak latch, dah cuba guna nipple shield, dah urut2, dah tarik2. but still flat, and i pump but the amount of milk tu mmg tak cukup utk baby.. paling byk boleh dpt bila pump 2-3oz. baby minum 2oz sekali, nearly 10 times a day.. tak dpt la nak pump 10kali sehari.. so mmg tak cukup and terpaksa topup fm..

paeds suggested the milk and i've been googling about reflux too, mostly ckp pasal susu yg pekat sbb i noticed the baby mmg tak muntah dah except kalau lepas minum terhiccup tu ada la muak sket...i try dgn susu biasa dulu before tukar to AR milk tu, mmg baby muntah je.. i dah try enfalac, i dah try s26, kat hospital masa baby kena admit for observation ada try snow.. and baby ada muntah.. even on BM pon bby ada muntah jugak sket but not as much as fm yg biasa tu la.. if bby boleh df.. i mmg tak guna fm.. but utk mengharapkan hasil pump mmg tak cukup utk consumption baby seharian.. nak buat stock apatah lagi..


artikel dlm mami and baby tu sape yg tulis??

kiyudi

asas, kalo baby minum susu ibu, dia reflux x  ??

skali pam 2-3 oz tu dh kira byk tu....cukop sgt utk yr newborn...

u slalu pam la nti nipple akan kuar..memang la buat 2/3 kali x akan menjadi, lama2 baru nipple kuar...sy dulu pon gitu....bg anak isap, try n error sure menjadi punya.....

mana2 ibu mampu menyusu kan baby dorang...jgn ckp x cukop tau...Allah dh bagi memang cukop utk baby kita...

peahjamboo

Reply 7# asas85


   if like that, no choice la kan...xpe la asas, keep on pumping, memula ni mmg payah lg2 la u first timer kan...yg artikel kt mami & baby tu, x sure lak sape author nye...rasenye dr oversea tu, diorg just translate @ compile kan info kot...x pun u get 1 la, bln march punye, cover depan Tini 3R tu

asas85

asas, kalo baby minum susu ibu, dia reflux x  ??

skali pam 2-3 oz tu dh kira byk tu....cukop sgt  ...
kiyudi Post at 8-3-2012 11:52

ada jugak dia muntah, tapi tak byk mcm minum susu fm biasa..  kalau pump 2oz, 3-4 times a day dpt la utk 4 kali feeding but baby minum 10 kali sekali. mana nak cukupkan yg 6 feeding yg lain tu.. kesian dgr dia nangis2.. niat di hati mmg nak fully bm.. tapi tak sanggup nak dgr bby nangis2 gitu,,

asas85

Reply  asas85


   if like that, no choice la kan...xpe la asas, keep on pumping, memula ni mmg  ...
peahjamboo Post at 8-3-2012 12:33

no choice, tapi harap lepas start makan supplement shaklee tu dpt membantu jugak bagi bm byk.. tapi before tu mmg kena topup jugak

kiyudi

asas, supplement shaklee utk bg zat tambahan, sbb kdg makanan yg kita makan tu xde zat2 tertentu...

jgn set kan minda tu yg shaklee leh up kn susu...xde pon.....cuma bdn kita ni rasa segar sket, xde la lembik sgt kan..ye la kita ni kan kerja opis....pastu balik wat kija umah lgi...

memang penjual shaklee claim yg shaklee leh up kan susu..tp xde sebenar nyaa.....

mamat2009

anak saya minum novalac ar..anak saya ada prob cirit.
asas try u cairkan sikit bancuhan susu tu..kalo sblm ni u buat 1 scoop 1 oz air..try buat 1 scoop 2 oz air..tgk baby u sembelit lagi x..

peahjamboo

Reply 12# kiyudi


    betul3....shaklee supplement tu buat badan kite ringan & btenaga which is sgt sesuai la utk kite working mom ni...selain tu, tambah khasiat kt susu kite...bkn banyakkan susu, jgn salah anggap...make sure minum byk air kalo kite consume supplement & nak bykkan susu...selain tu, bykkan makan sayuran hijau mcm sawi, kucai, daun turi utk bykkan susu, think +ve, kerapkan juga sesi pumping, insyaAllah...

Calla lily

My son masa 2 weeks pon paed ckp ada reflux
Dia every time bfeedx bila burp mmg akan muntah mcm waterfall
Paed bg novalac AR for me to try tp i sbb i full breastfeed so tak bg sgt
Kdg bila mlm malas nak jaga mlm baru i bg formula & i pump my milk utk buat stok

Abt ur problem bb poo poo keras tu ada solution dia
U try mkn prune or minum juice
Since u pump susu so susu u ada prune juice utk bg bb senang poo poo & tak keras
Dulu my eldest i minum prune juice sbb i sembelit & then bb i cirit plak
So i stop prune juice tu
My second ni mmg tak minum langsung dahlah
Since u tak full bfeed i think its safe to take prune juice tu
U Try minum 1 glass & see how it goes
If bb poo poo ok continue je
If tak poo poo u try minum 2 glass tgk mcmana
Jgn minum sejuk, suamkan sket letak air suam sket

My bb now mmg kuat muntah until he's  10 weeks
I pon mula2x ingat dia ada reflux or gerd but my hubby said dia overfed
So i try limit my feeding to 15-20mins per feeding & schedule every 3 hrs now
Alhamdulillah mmg ketara kurang muntah
So selama ni bb i muntah susu sbb overfed, bkn reflux or gerd

U tgk bb u muntah susu balik or muntah tairu
If tairu then maybe reflux lah kot
If muntah susu mybe overfed
Now bb u brp minggu?
Try schedule every 2-3 hrs & each feeding try bg 3oz dulu
If bb satisfied then jgn bg lagi
If bb still cry after 5 mins of feeding & burp maybe she needs more
Then next feeding try bg 4oz pulak
Bb yg minum bottle mmg senang nak jaga & tak byk prob sgt
My first mmg senang jaga & set schedule sbb formula fed (ignorant psl bfeed ni dulu)
My second ni 99% bfeed mmg byk cabaran dia
I almost give up tp tahan jugak
I target sampai 6 bulan je then tgk camnelah
My bb now is 13 weeks, dah ada schedule & now nak start routine for him

asas85

My son masa 2 weeks pon paed ckp ada reflux
Dia every time bfeedx bila burp mmg akan muntah mcm wat ...
Calla lily Post at 11-3-2012 09:20

my baby now dah 38days, poo poo dah tak keras, back to normal. Solution dia paeds suruh kurangkan dose ubat yg dia amik utk reflux and colic.. masa mula2 mmg kena consume every 6 hours now dah jadi sekali sehari. masa mula2 kalau terlambat bagi ubat, mmg akan muntah now dah kurang.. my baby muntah sometimes mcm susu+lendir, sometimes mcm tairu tuh.. but alhamdullilah skrg mmg dah kurang byk dah dari awal2 aritu..

baby minum 3oz every 2-3 hours, kalau malam mmg sharp every 3 hours, kalau siang, dia minum byk la pulak, sometimes nak every hour, sometimes 2 hours.. macam mana ek nak tetapkan routine utk siang ni?

asas85

anak saya minum novalac ar..anak saya ada prob cirit.
asas try u cairkan sikit bancuhan susu tu..ka ...
mamat2009 Post at 10-3-2012 21:14

oh, tapi bukan tak elok ke buat mcm tu?..
my baby poo poo keras bukan sbb susu tapi sbb medication dia. skrg dah tak poopoo keras lagi..(baru tau bila pi paeds aritu)

Calla lily

Reply 16# asas85

Now baby still very young, tak sesuai nak set rutin lg
Once baby dah 2 months plus, boleh start rutin dah
Now bg je feeding on demand coz sometimes during growth spurt bb mmg akan minum lebih susu sket
Nak besarkan, ikut je dulu bb's needs, once 3 months set rutin susu & tido dia sekali
Senang u bila dah masuk keje nnt

asas85

Reply  asas85

Now baby still very young, tak sesuai nak set rutin lg
Once baby dah 2 months plu ...
Calla lily Post at 22-3-2012 19:27

oh ok, tq, igtkan boleh start nak ajar rutin tu.. new mom here. sbb my mom ckp dulu dia rasa mmg dia dah tetapkan rutin since beginning.. tu la igt boleh start awal he he he

ajercrazy

Reply 19# asas85


my baby pun dlm pantang kadang every one hour nak susu..early stage 1-2months ikut je keperluan dia as dia nak grow up
and perlukan nutrition utk build muscle semua tu..
once dah masuk 3 months u dah boleh tetapkan routine..
mcm my baby siang every 3 hours..but mlm after last feeding let say 11pm
then he only wake up at 4am to feed. so sekali je skrg ni bangun malam...

i am a 1st time mommy also..