Only the strong? Or is it only the lonely?

seribulan

慖t is only weak people who are dependent on others. One of the reasons why we are sent to this world is to learn to walk alone. To each one of us comes a moment when we have got to rely on our own strength. It is the  strong people who count in this world. The others are often only ballast.

nazadiyah

totally disagree....still need shoulder to cry on...even strong enough to carry all the matter....may be the writer practise it in other value....the repulsive or good attitude in her par....

mrs_livingstone

half-half boleh ke?:bgrin:

ada something yg kita tak boleh be dependent,ade yg kita perlu be dependent...
yg kita taleh dependent ialah personality...jgn jadi dir kita sbb org lain...jgn jadi lalang ditiup angin...
yg kita tak leh avoid dr perlukan others when it comes to feelings..we need someone to love(contoh paling mudah),even someone tu la yg makes us stronger...

Berdikari...memang manusia perlu berdikari untuk menjadi seorang insan yang mampu membela diri sendiri, keluarga, agama, negara dan bangsa manusia secara keseluruhannya. Tapi mahu tak mahu manusia tetap bergantung kepada orang lain untuk memenuhi keperluan sosialnya. Nak survive? Tak semstinya strong saje, perlu ada keseimbangan dari aspek rohani, jasmani, emosi, psikologi,:blah::blah::blah::blah::blah::blah::blah:

yellow belmont

Originally posted by seribulan at 24-11-2005 12:11 PM
慖t is only weak people who are dependent on others. One of the reasons why we are sent to this world is to learn to walk alone. To each one of us comes a moment when we have got to rely on our own ...

i guess so ..

as Shishio Makoto always said .. "the strong will live .. and the weak shall perish" ..

Yer...kalu didefinisikan ke dalam persaingan tumbuh-tumbuhan , yang kuat akan hidup, yang lemah kan lenyap kerana wujudnya persaingan untuk merebut sumber2 mineral dari tanah dan cahaya matahari......
W/pun kalau didefnisikan kepada manusia, secara umumya setiap manusia mempunyai kekuatan sendiri, cuma terpulang sama ada mereka dapat mengeluarkan kekuatan itu atau tidak. Kekuatan bukan bergantung kepada kekuatan otot semata-mata, tapi juga mengambil kira kekuatan dari aspek- aspek lahiriah dan batiniah yang lain yang perlu digabungkan menjadi sumber kekuatan yang lebih berdaya tahan dan mampu bersaing menghadapi cabaran dalam hidup.

Greenbottle3

christians say .."the meek shall inherit the earth"....don't know the exact meaning or significance or truth of this...

tapi kalau di lihat dari segi haiwan..the strong never wins the ultimte survival battle.... the adaptable and the clever do!!...lihat dinosaurs..dah pupus...tigers, lions, elephants mengalami alam mendung...dah nak pupus...yang berjaya dalam animal world are insects!!!...lipas, lalat semut.....dan bacteria...virus..aids..bird flu !!!

manusia pula....those that are most numerous are chinese, indians...and majority of them are POOR...
and we kill the strong ones.... Hitler, JF Kennedy, etc,...

darwin says...survival of the fittest....but fittest does not mean STRENGTH alone...dalam politik yang survive nya yang pandai menjilat, korup, penipu, bunuh lawan....so in politic at least the strongest are actually the weakest (dari segi moral dan integriti...)

ajinomotonosuga

weak vs strong ermmmm.

kalo tadak weak ..camna nak label the other is strong?

kalo tadak strong how do we know we are weak?

btui kaaa LONELY? walo tadak manusia lain..walo cuma soang manusia..btui ka lonely? is lonely the exact word?

nabi adam soang2 di sorga dia lonely ka? semeeeeeee dah de..besh2 lagik..still dia murung ..lonely ka?

kalo ikut quran, quran kata fitrah manusia ni dijadikan dalam keadaan lemah. kalo ikut cite lord of the ring pun depa kata cam tuh..human? they are sooooo weak !!!:cak:

apa maksud weak sebenonya? apa maksud strong yang sebenonya? are we talking physical or non tangible issue ?

aku de create slogan untuk otak aku sendiri lebih kurang cenggini..ni salu aku pakai kalo certain time agak lemah. Slogan tu bunyik cam nih..

a strong mind can carry the  weak body but a  strong body is a slave to a weak mind.

ianya cuma nak didik diri jek.

so those statement of seribulan tu i would agree to some extent jek but i didik myself salu to think WHOLLY(holy).

Kalau tengok rancangan Survivor (NTV7) pun kita tengok yang paling kuat tak semestinya yang jadi juara dan menang 1 juta....Kekadang yang kuat tula kena vote out dulu...atau yang mula2 bertindak sebagai leader...last2 yang low profile pulak yang menang...kekadang nampak macam tak buat apa-apa pun...tetapi mereka sebenarnya berjaya mengekalkan diri dalam kumpulan yang menang tanpa menjadi target musuh... so sebenarnya mereka lah yang berjaya...ni kalu nak tengok contoh real lah.....So kesimpulannya kuat tak semestinya kukuh, perlukan sokongan yang lain juga untuk berjaya dalam hidup....

nu_Ouija_Board

kuat tak menang semuanya. lemah bukan maknanya sentiasa kalah. semua atas kita. luck, bakat, usaha dan kehendak tuhan.
yang lemah pun boleh mengatasi yang kuat jika kena caranya. lagipun kalau sentiasa di bawah, buat apa kita sentiasa disuruh berusaha.

seribulan

Originally posted by nu_Ouija_Board at 2-12-2005 01:01 AM
kuat tak menang semuanya. lemah bukan maknanya sentiasa kalah. semua atas kita. luck, bakat, usaha dan kehendak tuhan.
yang lemah pun boleh mengatasi yang kuat jika kena caranya. lagipun kalau sen ...

:hmm:sejak bila lak NOB ni begitu intelektual:cak: jangkit sapa ni:clap:

ajinomotonosuga

only the lonelyyy daaa rum rum rummm.....aaa cikgu bule tau lagu big O tu dak? osbong tuh yang buat lagu plitti womenggg pletti womengg ...

nu_Ouija_Board

Originally posted by seribulan at 2-12-2005 09:53 PM

:hmm:sejak bila lak NOB ni begitu intelektual:cak: jangkit sapa ni:clap:

nak jadik mod bod ni boley tak??

hik hik hik

seribulan

Originally posted by nu_Ouija_Board at 3-12-2005 09:48 AM



nak jadik mod bod ni boley tak??

hik hik hik

ff:
boleh aje:cak:pm admin cepat...sementara tawaran masih ada...
boring arrr...serius intelektual sgt...:cak:

redsinner

perhaps the strongest intelectual capability wins?
dlm society pun, we put a line based on IQ iindex, how many As we got. Yg lemah tu, peratusan yg berjaya agak tipis tapi adalah odd cases yg berjaya.

maybe those people yg dah complacent having high IQ pun nanti akan kecundang because they took for granted every thing they had? funny... how people make their own line to suppress their own species.

mungkin juga strong intelectual mind menyebabkan this phrase so famous.
"work smart, not work hard"

this is where survival of the fittest comes in. the smartest lived to the fullest.

conclusion: ntah...individualistic is much vital kan....

fish_o7

the words and phrase and that we discussing is no different than the word of Darwin the strong will survive and prosper and the weak  will vanish ..... but we should know that the darwin words  once was denied and becomes invalid ... we should look within the windows of history  that the greatest of civilisation wasn't build by one man... the strong will always be strong and survive, but we should realised that the strong would never be great ..... greatness achieve through unity .... and with greatness we can achive almost anything .... instead thinking to be strong we should think how to be great ... being strong would not get u anywhere... but being great would elevate u to the stars...

raeshad

strength and weakness?

simbiosis? i only know of this - there are some ppl yang akan terase more stronger if ppl are dependent on him/her...and there are some ppl who are stronger if they're depending on others...

that's simbiosis...mksdnyer, we cant live alone..

alone = weak

seribulan

nazadiyah replied at 24-11-2005 04:46 PM
totally disagree....still need shoulder to cry on...even strong enough to carry all the matter....ma ...

then might be the weak...

purpledesire

Sedang cuba blajar berdikari..huhuu

Elle_mujigae

To appear weak,we need to be strong...