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Sudden death mystery of 'healthy people'

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Post time 14-10-2016 03:44 AM | Show all posts |Read mode
The number of adults who suddenly die without explanation could be much higher than recorded in official figures, researchers said today.
A study funded by the British Heart Foundation estimated that 3,500 apparently healthy adults die suddenly each year in England.
It found that in around four per cent of such deaths no cause can be found - despite a full postmortem examination.
However as there is no recognised category for recording such deaths, it is difficult to obtain a clear picture of the exact number of victims.
Lead researcher Dr Tim Bowker, associate medical director at the BHF, said: "It has long been recognised that there are occasions when an apparently previously healthy adult dies suddenly and unexpectedly and any abnormalities found at postmortem are minimal or nonexistent.
"In such cases it can be very difficult to identify a precise cause of death. This leads us to question whether these deaths are rare or represent the tip of a larger iceberg."
He said such deaths should be classed as the adult equivalent of the Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (SIDS). Giving the condition a name, Sudden Adult Death Syndrome (SADS), would lead to greater understanding of the scale of the problem.
The study, in the Quarterly Journal of Medicine, took a sample of 67 coroners across England. The research team from the National Heart and Lung Institute in London looked at people who died suddenly aged between 16 and 64 years.
All had no previously documented heart disease but were found during a postmortem to have cardiac cause or no identifiable cause of death.
It is thought that many sudden adult deaths are due to electrical abnormalities, some of which are inherited.
However electrical measurements of the heart can only be made when the person is alive.
Professor Sir Charles George, medical director of the BHF said: "This study takes us another step closer to unravelling the mystery that surrounds the tragedy of healthy adults dying prematurely from sudden adult death."
He said at this stage there was not enough evidence to call for population screening.
"What is needed is further research and accurate pathology to assess the scale of the problem and widespread support and follow up of surviving relatives," he added.


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Post time 14-10-2016 07:50 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
malam tadi baru je dapat berita kawan laki iol meninggal,tetiba heart attack n selama ni sihat walafiat..rest in peace
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Post time 14-10-2016 09:15 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Kena bersedia...
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Post time 14-10-2016 09:24 AM | Show all posts
aku mungkin tergolong ketegori ni kot..im healthy..jarang sakit dan tip top ok. but..aku ada masalah jantung yg aku detect many years ago. tak kronik ..tapi dia mungkin akan terhenti tiba2 sebab konflik jantung injap dia takle tutup rapat when we heel oxigen patutnya injap tu tutup rapat then dia open to release the oxigen ..but my case murmur problem sejak lahir..takle diubat..melainkan kena bedah tukar satu set..haha mcm set periuk plak.
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Post time 14-10-2016 09:43 AM | Show all posts
rospinki replied at 14-10-2016 09:24 AM
aku mungkin tergolong ketegori ni kot..im healthy..jarang sakit dan tip top ok. but..aku ada masalah ...

sis..usah bimbang teruskan kehidupan mcm biasa..insyaallah takde apa
Ajal maut ditangan Nya

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Post time 14-10-2016 10:19 AM | Show all posts
@zulka

okay..harap2 gitu la. tapi tak prnah mis satu hari pun aku pikir mati..mati can come many ways bukan pasal jantung je.

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Post time 14-10-2016 10:27 AM | Show all posts
rospinki replied at 14-10-2016 10:19 AM
@zulka

okay..harap2 gitu la. tapi tak prnah mis satu hari pun aku pikir mati..mati can come many  ...

bagusla gitu
btw pernah dengar tak org yg setiap saat fikir pasal kematian ni sebenarnya panjang umornya
wallahualam

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Post time 14-10-2016 02:49 PM | Show all posts
benda ni ada diterangkan waktu safety training aku hari tu
dia ada kaitan dgn tahap stress kita
kalo kat opis stress dgn kerja stress dgn bos stress dgn staff stress dgn cleaner
kat rumah pulak stress dgn rumah bersepah stress dgn suami/isteri stress dgn anak2 stress dgn kucing berak dlm rumah
pastu esok dtg kerja sambung lagi stress dan continuously day by day
bila terlalu banyak cas -ve dlm badan kita lama2 jantung pon jd hang


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 Author| Post time 14-10-2016 05:45 PM | Show all posts
Sbb dlm Quran kata "Setiap bernyawa pasti MATI "

kita kena stand by masuk kubur wlupun doktor sahkan kita sihat walafiat....

aku dah 42 ni ,tiada penyakit kronik ,hanya sakit biasa2 je .....


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Post time 16-10-2016 08:14 PM | Show all posts
Ni biasanya heart rhythm lah yg problem nyer.
Takde apa apa yg abnormal pada anatomy jantungnye, cuma wiring dalam nya.
Tetiba je, rhythm yg elok macam dalam pic bawah ni, bertukar jadi VT atau VF atau Asystole, seminit dua je mati lah kita, walaupun takde Diabetes, coronaries, Darah Tinggi ke apa..

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Post time 16-10-2016 08:18 PM | Show all posts
fishcracker replied at 14-10-2016 07:50 AM
malam tadi baru je dapat berita kawan laki iol meninggal,tetiba heart attack n selama ni sihat walaf ...

innalillahi wa inna ilaihi raajiun
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 Author| Post time 16-10-2016 08:24 PM | Show all posts
ipes2 replied at 16-10-2016 08:14 PM
Ni biasanya heart rhythm lah yg problem nyer.
Takde apa apa yg abnormal pada anatomy jantungnye, cu ...


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Post time 17-10-2016 05:42 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
ipes2 replied at 16-10-2016 08:14 PM
Ni biasanya heart rhythm lah yg problem nyer.
Takde apa apa yg abnormal pada anatomy jantungnye, cu ...

mana satu yg normal mana satu yg x normal? atas or bawah   ?

kira stress menjadi punca ke? abis la aku stress memanjang. lelagi aku pk pasal opis dgn pegi balik keje yg jam memanjang
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Post time 17-10-2016 07:14 PM | Show all posts
sepupu sebaya dgn aku ada mcm ni.tiba2 jatuh...meninggal kat rumah.tak pasti penyakit apa.tak pernah dengar dia  on medication ke apa. tapi rasenya masa kecik pernah dengar dia ada asthma.kesian.. masa tu umur lebih kurang 33 tahun..ank2 pulak kecik2

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Post time 18-10-2016 02:33 AM | Show all posts
alesandra replied at 17-10-2016 07:14 PM
sepupu sebaya dgn aku ada mcm ni.tiba2 jatuh...meninggal kat rumah.tak pasti penyakit apa.tak pernah ...

Cerebral Aneurysm ke tu?
Biasanya kalau muda gitu lah.
Bila artery yg membengkak dalam otak tu pecah, mati almost serta merta.
Innalillahi wa inna ilaihi raajiun

Post Mortem tak buat ke
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Post time 18-10-2016 02:35 AM | Show all posts
PongKang replied at 17-10-2016 05:42 PM
mana satu yg normal mana satu yg x normal? atas or bawah   ?

kira stress menjadi punca ke? ab ...

Yg kat atas tu normal. waves dia ialah : P, lepas tu QRS, lepas tu T. Lepas tu P balik.
Yang kat bawah tu VF... mati dalam masa 1-2minit

Stress tak lah membuat rhythm jantung jadi VF, ia cuma buat rate jantung jadi cepat aje. Still, stress ni tak elok kerana boleh cause Darah Tinggi..dari darah tinggi dapat la coronaries sebab pressure dalam urat darah tu tinggi, rosak la urat darah tu

Tenang tenang. Nabi selalu pesan agar kita sabar.
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Post time 18-10-2016 09:30 AM | Show all posts
ipes2 replied at 18-10-2016 02:33 AM
Cerebral Aneurysm ke tu?
Biasanya kalau muda gitu lah.
Bila artery yg membengkak dalam otak tu p ...

tak buat pun post mortem.sbb tgh hari/ptg  meninggal ..mlm tu dah kebumi.mungkin makcik aku tak bagi.then wife dia ikut redha jela kot.sebenarnya aku pun tak tau citer sgt.tak ziarah pun sbb ayah aku  masa tu sakit.

doc aku nak tanya...kalau heartburn wajib tak ambil test ECG?aku ada gastrik..tak kronik sgt.but bulan lepas aku rase ada sakit dada.tapi tak sesak nafas.sebenarnya aku pernah ambil test ECG itupun 2 tahun yg lps... simptom yg sama.result.. takde apa2.doktor bagi ubat gastrik dan sakit dada tu pun hilang.lately benda yg sama berulang balik..pegi doktor gomen.dia ckp tak perlu ambik ECG..dan bagi ubat gastrik jugak.nak tanya...mcm nak tau beza antara gastrik heartburn dgn heart attack.risau jugak sbb family aku ada history penyakit jantung..
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Post time 18-10-2016 10:12 PM | Show all posts
alesandra replied at 18-10-2016 09:30 AM
tak buat pun post mortem.sbb tgh hari/ptg  meninggal ..mlm tu dah kebumi.mungkin makcik aku tak ba ...

Ohh, sayanglah tak buat post mortem, tak tahulah penyakit apa yg ada di dalam family sebelah sana tu. mati ngejut ni bahaya.. eg jika masa tgh bawak kereta dgn anak anak, maka bahana nya nauzubillah.

Ye, heartburn (rasa terbakar  dalam dada dari gastritis, oesophagitis, duodenitis) nyer symptoms mmg rapat dgn angina (ie chest pain dari coronary disease) dan dgn MI (ie myocardial infarction, ie heart attack). Berapa byk sudah, yg doctor tersilap diagnose angina dgn heartburn, atau MI dgn heartburn. Jadi, almost mandatory org yg ada heartburn ni dibuat ECG.

Eh, apsal tak tak dibuat OGD? Asyik heartbuns je ni.. kena tgh apa jadi kat dalam stomach awak tu. OGD is oesophagogastroduodenoscopy (camera masuk sampai ke D2-D3 junction dalam duodenum tu)
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Post time 18-10-2016 10:16 PM | Show all posts
alesandra replied at 18-10-2016 09:30 AM
tak buat pun post mortem.sbb tgh hari/ptg  meninggal ..mlm tu dah kebumi.mungkin makcik aku tak ba ...

Di sini jika mati mengejut mmg kena wat post-mortem; wajib, tak bolehfamily atau relatives sekat. Sebab  satu nak tau statistics sakait apa, dua nak diagnose so that boleh letak dlm death cert apa sebabnya, tiga utk halang foul-play eg diracun org, ditolak org etc etc
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Post time 18-10-2016 10:31 PM | Show all posts
ipes2 replied at 18-10-2016 10:12 PM
Ohh, sayanglah tak buat post mortem, tak tahulah penyakit apa yg ada di dalam family sebelah sana  ...

owhh kena request nak buat ECG la ni kalau melarat.tapi kat sini hospital kerajaan kalau OGD tu kena ada kes berulang ..cthnya lebih dari 2 kali .
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