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Mat Kampong This user has been deleted
Post time 18-5-2004 08:57 AM | Show all posts |Read mode
ALL MUSLIMS IN THE WORLD ANGERED BY ABU GHRAIB PRISONER-ABUSE SCANDAL

A GOOD number of worldwide's Muslims, long unhappy with the United States' policy in Iraq, would have been angered further by the images of abuse at Baghdad's Abu Ghraib prison.

Indeed, there are four main reasons for the current anger towards the US
and, more especially, the current administration.

First:
It concerns the deceit and dishonesty surrounding the arguments relating to the invasion;

Second:
It is the US' moral self-righteousness - its self-professed "civilising" mission in the Middle East especially the Islamic world.

Third:
It is the element of hypocrisy now the abuses have been uncovered!!!

Fourth:
It is the lack of trust and confidence in US President George W Bush's
leadership.

The others said:
"The Americans have disgraced themselves by flaunting the values they purport to uphold."

"These are crimes against humanity. The people have been shocked by the depths to which Americans can sink."

"The basis on which the US went to war revolved on three broad arguments:
The presence of weapons of mass destruction; the wish to introduce democracy and free markets; and the desire to free the Iraqi people from a dictatorial regime BUT厖 There are no signs of the weapons, democracy seems to have receded into the future and - after the discovery of the systematic torture and abuse of Iraqi prisoners - the moral justification for the invasion is sounding very, very hollow indeed."

"The tragedy at Abu Ghraib has undermined the collective effort to push forward democracy and the rule of law in the Middle East. Sorry to say, the Americans are not practising what they preach. In fact, they are now in danger of eroding people's confidence in these universal values."

"The Americans have shown themselves as hypocrites. They have lost their moral leadership and are tainted. They must work hard to resurrect their reputation. However, words alone are not enough, the US must prove their sincerity through their actions."

"US President George W Bush symbolises all these evil deeds. He is responsible for the collapse of American legitimacy. Moreover as commander-in-chief, the President is ultimately responsible for the acts of his troops."

Conclusion:
Before the invasion of Afghanistan, the Muslims of this region has never been virulently anti-US. In fact, the US' staunch anti-communist stance during the Cold-War years earned it considerable goodwill in the region, especially from conservative Muslim forces.

The recent beheading of American contractor Nick Berg by his unresponsible Iraqi captors and the suicide car-bombing yesterday which killed current Iraqi Governing Council president Izzedine Salim made most Muslims react with horror and revulsion.

Most westernised Muslims, feel deep disappointment - if not betrayal - in the way the US has placed itself above both the Geneva Conventions and other widely-accepted human rights standards.

The current crisis in American credibility and legitimacy might have been
manageable had Mr Bush enjoyed greater popularity internationally. Certainly in this region, his crass Texan-style rhetoric, his unwavering belief in the efficacy of raw power as well as his crude prosecution of the "war on terror" do not go down well.

The majority of the people in this region feel that the US' moral standing and credibility among Muslims in the region - and globally - will only be recouped when the present policies are reversed.

Down to George W Bush and his administration!

[fly]GEORGE W BUSH THE BARBARIAN OF MODERN AGE!!![/fly]

[ Last edited by Mat Kampong on 18-5-2004 at 02:10 PM ]
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whitepig This user has been deleted
Post time 18-5-2004 09:12 AM | Show all posts
mod - pls delete or deduct credit - no URL included & no personal comments on this article
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Post time 18-5-2004 09:45 AM | Show all posts

let's wait for his explanation.

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_JC_ This user has been deleted
Post time 18-5-2004 10:18 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by DARSITA at 18-5-2004 09:45:


To JC, .....MK don't owe any explaination to whitepig or darsita!
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Post time 18-5-2004 10:21 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by _JC_ at 17-5-04 06:18 PM:


To JC, .....MK don't owe any explaination to whitepig or darsita!

Rules for World Politics .. Please Read!
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1. While cut-n-pastes are technically allowed, all articles posted must include a working URL link and the person posting these should also include their own comments as well and state what they wish to be discussed, especially in posts that start a new thread.

Simple.
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Terong Pipit This user has been deleted
Post time 18-5-2004 10:23 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by DARSITA at 2004-5-18 01:45:
let's wait for his explanation...


come on DARSITA! Do it.. U shall please your buddy whitepig!

It's so easy just succumb to his request.. you will be a good MoD in his book.

I'm sure bro MK don't give a damn about your power to deduct point!!!

You can deduct mine tooo......:pmuka::pmuka::pmuka:
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_JC_ This user has been deleted
Post time 18-5-2004 10:26 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by DARSITA at 18-5-2004 10:21:

Rules for World Politics .. Please Read!
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1. While cut-n-pastes are technically allowed, all articles posted must include a working URL link and the person posting the ...


Yeah!!! You damn golden RULES. Who care!

Pegi rahh dengan your RULES!!! Lu ingat besaq sangat ke U punya RULES!!!
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whitepig This user has been deleted
Post time 18-5-2004 10:31 AM | Show all posts
see these *****  - they ve no sense of humour. that's the diff.
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Post time 18-5-2004 10:32 AM | Show all posts
It is times like this, Mr. Super Moderator ... deduct a few credits won't work. You should try deduct several thousands to teach this animals a lesson. ;) The rest up to you.
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Post time 18-5-2004 10:33 AM | Show all posts
Apalah nak jadi dengan forumers Melayu yang tak bertemadun ni?

sila click dkt lin ini:- http://forum.cari.com.my/viewthread.php?tid=106584&fpage=1

Ada nampak tak amaran yang sama saya berikan pada dia? Pergi tengok dkt page 4 & 5 berapa banyak thread Debmey yang saya closed sebab tak ikut undang undang. Janganlah ego sangat. Nanti thread kena tutup bising satu dunia.
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Post time 18-5-2004 10:35 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Sephiroth at 17-5-04 06:32 PM:
It is times like this, Mr. Super Moderator ... deduct a few credits won't work. You should try deduct several thousands to teach this animals a lesson. ;) The rest up to you.


Please Mr. Sephiroth ... Dont called them animals. nf:
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Post time 18-5-2004 10:41 AM | Show all posts
BY DARSITA

Please Mr. Sephiroth ... Dont called them animals.  

Please spare me the tears ... I have gave up on them. They have no intelligence ... they only seeks to fight and bite others.

They have no manners, no culture and no heritage. They just animals in shape of Man.

You want to be nice to them while they gawk away at your hands, that's YOUR choice. You want to take actions for their posts, that's YOUR choice also as a moderator.

I just suggesting that time like this, deducting a few mere credits isn't enough to control the problem and whether to accept such comments from me is YOUR choice also.

However, whether to call them Animals or not (based on MY observation) is MY CHOICE.
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whitepig This user has been deleted
Post time 18-5-2004 10:43 AM | Show all posts
>>Please Mr. Sephiroth ... Dont called them animals.<<<

yes no name calling please.
(they are worst than that.. should be leashed by Lyndie England)
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KENNKID This user has been deleted
Post time 18-5-2004 10:54 AM | Show all posts
"whether to call them Animals or not (based on MY observation) is MY CHOICE."

Sorry for butting in Seph, but does the above response from you make you more well-mannered, cultured and highly-heritaged?;)
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_JC_ This user has been deleted
Post time 18-5-2004 12:04 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Sephiroth at 18-5-2004 10:32:
It is times like this, Mr. Super Moderator ... deduct a few credits won't work. You should try deduct several thousands to teach this animals a lesson. ;) The rest up to you.


[fly]Inikah cara forummer non-Malay yang bertemadun! [/fly]

...yang teramat dipuja-puja oleh Ms Super Moderator, DARSITA!!!!:devil:

p/s: Actually Sephiroth is the BEAST itself..:clap::clap::clap:
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_JC_ This user has been deleted
Post time 18-5-2004 12:08 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by DARSITA at 18-5-2004 10:33:
Ada nampak tak amaran yang sama saya berikan pada dia? Pergi tengok dkt page 4 & 5 berapa banyak thread Debmey yang saya closed sebab tak ikut undang undang. Janganlah ego sangat. Nanti thread kena tutup bising satu dunia....


FYI Ms DARSITA,

Life will go on if any of the website closed! It's not about ego BUT about ketidakadilan anda menjalankan tugas! JC don't care if U want to deduct points or lock the thread BUT you must be fair to all forummer with FEAR and FAVOR!!! Bertemadun konon!!!
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Mat Kampong This user has been deleted
 Author| Post time 18-5-2004 12:17 PM | Show all posts
woi apa gaduh-gaduh nii!!

Sebenarnya mr whitepig dan super mod darsita - both of u tak tahan dengan yang ini aje:

[fly]GEORGE W BUSH THE BARBARIAN OF MODERN AGE!!![/fly]

al-maklum ler takut 'orang paling terkuat didunia' tu marah... lol:lol.
Awat takut hang punya visa kena tarik ke? Kalau takut dok diam-diam jangan mai main kat sini... belajar bagi lulus dulu.. pi belajar pakai duit sendiri atau wang zakat ganu?

(tapi mk heran kalau tulis - 'whitepig' - boleh tapi kalau tulis - 'babiputih' - kena edit. wat is dis? tolong bagitau, apa bezanya? adil konon!)
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Post time 18-5-2004 12:22 PM | Show all posts
kepala bon**t sephatrol tu konon nya nak ganti sfe/debmey..pi balik india lagi bagus
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Post time 18-5-2004 12:29 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by _JC_ at 17-5-04 08:04 PM:


[fly]Inikah cara forummer non-Malay yang bertemadun! [/fly]

...yang teramat dipuja-puja oleh Ms Super Moderator, DARSITA!!!!:devil:

p/s: Actually Sephir ...


Kalau kamu purak purak buat tak nampak teguran saya dkt Seph .. tak taulah nak cakap apa.
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Post time 18-5-2004 12:30 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by zuas at 17-5-04 08:22 PM:
kepala bon**t sephatrol tu konon nya nak ganti sfe/debmey..pi balik india lagi bagus

Dah jangan nak tambah tambah. Back to the tajuk thread ni
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