St. Anne Pilgrim Incident

Sephiroth

Odd ... I thought it could be a major topic in this forum, but no one talking about it. Christians are extra quiet about it.

Anyway, what you guys thinks about the St. Anne Pilgrim Incident which killed 11 people and send 35 others with serious injuries to the hospital? :hmm:


Pilgrims means taking time and effect to go somewhere which is holy (to the group). There are some rules like remaining celibacy for a period of time (between 30 to 15 days), cleansing the mind, body and spirit during this period, no worldly conduct and careful with one's behavior and such.

A few months ago, Hindus did a pilgrim to Marang temple in Pahang by WALKING on foot 130 miles from Kuala Lumpur to Marang. It was reported that 200 to 300 people went on that pilgrim and it lasted 3 days and was success without any incidents.

So, why did this "pilgrim" (if you can considered going to picnic as pilgrimage) failed? :hmm:

Originally posted by Sephiroth at 1-8-2006 07:52 AM
Odd ... I thought it could be a major topic in this forum, but no one talking about it. Christians are extra quiet about it.

Anyway, what you guys thinks about the St. Anne Pilgrim Incident whic ...

If it had happened to Muslims I'm sure there will be a big hue and cry over it by the Christians in this forum - not offering condolences or sympathy, but offering all sorts of judgement.

My condolences to those who lost their family and speedy recovery to those still in hospital.

My comments on the incident: Its qada' & qadar... for every cause there is an effect. The cause in this case was ... from the reports... the driver was not driving properly... either he was sleepy or tired or drunk.... or the engine of the bus could be faulty.... Everything that happened is all known by God for nothing escapes His knowledge

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Oreng

on behalf of Truth and 13F, i would say their mind : That those who died are because they are sinful. This is unislamic statement.

Originally posted by Oreng at 1-8-2006 08:36 AM
on behalf of Truth and 13F, i would say their mind : That those who died are because they are sinful. This is unislamic statement.

and T.8 will say its because they are RC...for if they were twoness believers they would have been saved...   

Sephiroth

Where is T.8 anyway? Christians are awfully quiet about this event. :hmm:

I remember whenever Haj pilgrams get killed in Mecca, Christians like T.8 are the first to make fun of the dead.

Truth.8

All who  involved in pagan ritual include the recent incident nothing but provoke true God. Worshipping dead souls and etc nothing but blend with pagan ritual.

Islam, Hindus and all pagan faith will end like this way.

Only God the Father and Jesus to be worshipped. Nothing wrong if one want to praise prophets or angels but not to extend by worshipping or  idolizing them with garland, carrying in chariot which similar to most pagan ritual and etc. RC been doing this kind of acts for many times and it  time for them to put stop to this kind pagan ritual.

Did not I worship God in spirit yet HE save me many times? Did not my God soften the robbery heart by not smashing my windscreen when muhammad followers  windscreen was smashed and robbed? God will saveth those listen to HIM by obeying his laws and words and not man made view, rules and laws.  . If they still ignorance, u can see stampede , misery life and etc and loosing life & other things  as well.

Ever since I accept my Father in Heaven and Jesus,  my life seems turning positive, blessing and surly protection. i can feel every momenth of it because I believed in True God not some kind pagan gods or believing one god but bowing indirectly to an object or praying to half naked men standing in cross or those sexy idols. all this is CURSED BY DEATH. :agr:

I only can advise to this misguided peoples for a while because I won抰 be here for long. Once I vanished from  this forum, so do all will perished with horrible death unless they repent and comes to  true God of Bible the Father and Jesus and obeying HIS laws include Sabbath.

Think

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yusmar

My condolences to all involved and T.8......i truly sympathise with you....aren't those ppl considered your brethren...........in your quest to become 'religious'....u forgot to be human.

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Truth.8

Originally posted by yusmar at 1-8-2006 04:24 PM
My condolences to all involved and T.8......i truly sympathise with you....aren't those ppl considered your brethren...........in your quest to become 'religious'....u forgot to be human.

they ask for it. why must goes to St. Anne Pilgrim when such teaching never observed or taught by Bible ?

feel sorry for their souls and hopefuly RC will learn a lesson from this incident.

Truth.8

Originally posted by KENNKID at 1-8-2006 08:29 AM

The cause in this case was ... from the reports... the driver was not driving properly... either he was sleepy or tired or drunk.... or the engine of the bus could be faulty.... Everything that happened is all known by God for nothing escapes His knowledge

...

all this can be stopped if one understand true God.

did not my car about to explode with heavy smoke coming out when i call upon my Father and Lord? Yet he saveth me and u peoples mocked at my thread but my Father spoke to me via HIS words to comfort me again and again. That is true beauty knowing true God of Bible than those silly idols with three heads and those crap.

Psalm 20:6 (King James Version)
King James Version (KJV)
   

6Now know I that the LORD saveth his anointed; he will hear him from his holy heaven with the saving strength of his right hand.

I always  remember this words because it really touched my heart.

13Friday

there is another message to the party to doom.


you know in 1946 and the semangat 46.

13Friday

just before Suhakam's forum in KK on EPIC who are members of UMNO Sabah.

13Friday

EPIC is extra people identity cards possessed by illegals of 1-2 millions in Sabah.



the dreaded scenario

wira_melayu

Originally posted by Truth.8 at 1-8-2006 04:40 PM



all this can be stopped if one understand true God.

did not my car about to explode with heavy smoke coming out when i call upon my Father and Lord? Yet he saveth me and u peoples mocked a ...

Well Truth8 you can make a big news headline if you think you can escape death,why not you jump from a high rise building and call upon your lord and let see what kind of headlines will appear.
:nana:

Sephiroth

by Truth.8   

they ask for it. why must goes to St. Anne Pilgrim when such teaching never observed or taught by Bible ?
feel sorry for their souls and hopefuly RC will learn a lesson from this incident.

Hellow ... the Bible stated that others who preach using Jesus's name are Christians also, even so they do not enter their church and you don't go to their. It think it's in the New Testament in Revealation or something.


by wira_melayu   

Well Truth8 you can make a big news headline if you think you can escape death,why not you jump from a high rise building and call upon your lord and let see what kind of headlines will appear.

Same kind like that of a Christian who jumped into a lion's cage to Christianize a Lion last year.

Truth.8

Originally posted by wira_melayu at 2-8-2006 12:10 AM


Well Truth8 you can make a big news headline if you think you can escape death,why not you jump from a high rise building and call upon your lord and let see what kind of headlines will appear. ...

death shall come to anyone but dying in horrible way is something pagan and those called themselves christians but blending with pagan ritual should think deeply.

if i want to jump frm high rise building that already commited suicide. God will bless and protect true followers .  I believed some good christians will die without pain or might even vanished.

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LostSoul

t.8, i'm waiting for the day when you die.. so i can see how you go then i could make an educated judgement on your claims...

Truth.8

Originally posted by Sephiroth at 2-8-2006 08:41 AM
Hellow ... the Bible stated that others who preach using Jesus's name are Christians also, even so they do not enter their church and you don't go to their. It think it's in the New Testament in Revealation or something.

Are u sure they are Christians?? after all doing something is not related to Biblical teachings?? can i call them christians?? Do u think Jesus going confess them as Christ followers after doing so much different frm Christ teachings??

Read this:

Matthew 7:22-23  King James Version (KJV)
  


22Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

23And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity


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Originally posted by Truth.8 at 2-8-2006 08:53 AM



death shall come to anyone but dying in horrible way is something pagan and those called themselves christians but blending with pagan ritual should think deeply.

if i want to jump frm hig ...

Did you forget?  Jesus also died in a horrible way, a long and painful death.

Originally posted by Truth.8 at 2-8-2006 10:51 AM



Are u sure they are Christians?? after all doing something is not related to Biblical teachings?? can i call them christians?? Do u think Jesus going confess them as Christ followers after do ...

Jesus said in the bible: 揌e that is without sin among you, let him cast the first stone.

Truth.8

Originally posted by samerosie at 2-8-2006 10:52 AM


Did you forget?  Jesus also died in a horrible way, a long and painful death.

good question. u mind telling us why HE died in such painful death and what purpose??