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The Mayan Prophecy of 2012

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Source: http://www.13moon.com/prophecy%20page.htm

Known as Time's Special Witness, 7th century Mayan prophet Pacal Votan left a universal message for future generations of an evolving Earth.

Proclaiming,"If Humanity Wishes To Save Itself From Biospheric Destruction It Must Return To Living in Natural Time," he foretold of our accelerated technological society, and the resulting damage of our collective divergence from Natural Law in exchange for materialist values.

Pacal Votan's prophetic call is alerting present-day humanity that our biological process is transforming, approaching the culmination of a 26,000 year evolutionary program. Bringing the return of universal telepathy, heightened sense capacity, and self-reflective consciousness, this is a return to the sacred domain of our inner technology.
This grand cycle of evolution will culminate
winter solstice, December 21, 2012 AD.

This time we are now in has been called "The Time of Trial on Earth," "Judgement Day," "The Time of Great Purification," "The End of this Creation," "The Quickening," "The End of Time as We Know It," "The Shift of the Ages." It is foretold that the completion of the Precession brings regeneration of Earth, offering awakening to all open, willing hearts. Many peoples spoke of these last days of the Great Cycle, including the: Maya, Hopi, Egyptians, Kabbalists, Essenes, Qero elders of Peru, Navajo, Cherokee, Apache, Iroquois confederacy, Dogon Tribe, and Aborigines.

    As avid stargazers, the ancient Maya were keen to an astrological cycle we call the Precession of the Equinoxes. This is close to a 26,000 year cycle in which Earth transits through each of the 12 signs of the zodiac for about 2152 years each. Each of these astrological ages represents one month of the grand, Cosmic Year. Sumerians, Tibetans, Egyptians, Cherokees, Hopi, and Mayans refer to this same 26,000 year cycle in their mystical belief systems and each have developed calendars based on this great cycle.

The Maya messengers, reknowned for their architectural, artistic, mathematical and scientific achievements, left a calling card as a series of super-human sized stone monuments and pyramids with precise calendrical computations. Planted with great intention, these dates were left to ensure that future generations would be alerted to the coming end point of this great 26,000 year cycle. A cycle which corresponds also to a 26,000 year relationship of our Sun orbiting Alcyone, the central star of the 7 Sisters Pleiades constellation. According to the Maya, the "future" which lies beyond this end date is literally "a new world age" - "a new creation."

The 26,000 year cycle of the Homo Sapien's evolution and development is mirrored by the 260-day cycle of human gestation. Collective humanity is right now maturing into the being we have long been encoded to be. As with any labor, it is not the mother, or the baby, who is in charge - it is the primal process of Birth itself unfolding its own destiny.

Thus the December 21, 2012 AD is not the day where all of the sudden a light switch will flip on and everything will change, rather, we are NOW in the process of this transition from one World Age to the next. The changes are underway and will continue steadily accelerating as we head towards the culminating date!

The ancient Maya understood this 26,000 year cycle to be specifically composed of 5 lesser cycles, each 5,125 years each. Each of these 5 cycles was considered its own World Age or Creation Cycle. As depicted on the familiar, circular MesoAmerican Sun Stone, (often called the Aztec Calendar) each Creation Cycle is said to have been ruled and destroyed by one of 5 elements. Specifically, 4 Jaguar, 4 Wind, 4 Rain, 4 Water.

Our present great cycle (3113 B.C. - 2012 A.D.) is called the Age of the Fifth Sun. This time period is ruled by 4 Earth. This fifth age is the synthesis of the previous four. 4 Earth (called Caban in the Maya language and Ollin in Aztec) has several meanings, including: movement, shift, evolution, earthquake, navigation, synchronicity, clue tracking, turtle. In the Maya language, the word "ol" of ollin means consciousness.

In Mayan calendrics, the initial date that Earth entered the Fifth World was August 13, 3113 BC, written in Mayan long count notation as 13.0.0.0.0. Every day from that point was reckoned by the number of days passed since the event of this cosmic beginning point.

As Dr. Jose Arguelles writes in "Time and The Technosphere" -
"August 13, 3113 BC is as precise and accurate as one can get for a beginning of history: the first Egyptian dynasty is dated to ca 3100 BC; the first 'city,' Uruk, in Mesopotamia, also ca 3100 BC; the Hindu Kali Yuga, 3102 BC; and most interestingly, the division of time into 24 hours of 60 minutes each and each minute into 60 seconds [and the division of the circle into 360 degrees], also around 3100 BC, in Sumeria. If the beginning of history was so accurately placed, then must not the end of history, December 21, 2012 also be as accurate?"

(Sidenote: Regarding the World Age cycle we are closing in 2012 and the new World Age cycle to dawn, there are varying cosmologies as to whether we are closing the Fifth World and entering the Sixth, or closing the Fourth World and entering the Fifth. For example, In the perspective of the living Maya Timekeepers of Guatemala, calendrically speaking, each element has a 5,125 year cycle. They teach that we have been through fire, earth, air and water already. The next cycle (beginning Dec 21, 2012) will be ether - the Fifth Age - the Age of Center. Likewise, the Hopi teach we are closing the Fourth World of Destruction, and preparing to begin the Fifth World of Peace. Regardless of the title given, what is clear is that we are on poised on the brink of a World Age Rebirth!)

Within the 5,125 year cycle lies 13 smaller cycles, known as the "13 Baktun Count," or the "long count." Each baktun cycle is 394 years long, or 144,000 days. Each baktun was its own historical epoch or Age within the Great Creation Cycle, carrying a specific destiny for the evolution of those who incarnated in each baktun. For example, almost all of the Mayan inscriptions were seeded precisely during Baktun 9 (435-830 AD). This era is known as the time of the Classic Maya. After this point, around 830 A.D., the great Mayan centers were abandoned and their thriving culture mysteriously disappeared. To this day, no one can verify or prove why they left or where they went.

The Classic Maya of Baktun 9 were of a specific destiny, distinct from Maya of other times. As Dr. Jose Arguelles writes, "In 830 A.D. the engineering team departed back to space, back to the other dimensions from which the Maya keep their watch on things. Slowly the terrestrial Maya melted back into the jungles. The time of darkness was setting in. Sure enough the conquerors came. By 830 A.D. Warrior tribes who took the ancient name of Toltec, which means Master Builder, entered the Yucatan. War and human sacrifice were introduced."

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 Author| Post time 10-1-2007 04:12 PM | Show all posts
Earth and her inhabitants are currently travelling through the 13th baktun cycle - the final period of 1618-2012 AD. This cycle is known both as "the triumph of materialism" and "the transformation of matter." The Maya predicted this final baktun would be a time of great forgetting in which we drift very far from our sense of Oneness with Nature and experience a kind of collective amnesia. Like a memory virus in which we begin to believe the limited reality of appearances and grow dense to the spiritual essence which fuels this world, so humanity's sense of ego and domination has grown.

We entered this baktun cycle right after establishing the world wide coordination of Pope Gregory XIII's 12 month calendar system (1582) as well as the perfection of 12 hour 60-minute mechanical clock (1600), which had been evolving for centuries. These are no small matters. According to Valum Votan, these 2 instruments are what manifested humanity's "error in time" which is the following of artificial instruments of time that served to separate man apart from the rest of nature, operating by our own false timing frequency, to the detriment of the natural world.

The Gregorian calendar is not based on logic, science, or nature. It denies and covers up the true annual human biological cycle conserved in the body of woman. It is the current world standard because of the forceful issuance of this system upon conquered (indigenous) peoples who lost their land as well as their religious freedoms. The Gregorian calendar is a product of its predecessors - Julius Caesar's calendar and the earlier Roman Empire calendar.

The clock was the first existing machine - going on to become the heart of all machine technology to come.

The presence of the clock gave birth to the notion that time lies outside our bodies - that it can be tracked by a machine, and that we can sit and watch it "fly" by tick-tock as though it is something linear, containable, and separate from the organic, flowing process of life. The adherence to the clock for our sense of time and timing is noted as the greatest obstacle to allowing the full telepathic abilities of the human to flower.

Next came the Cartesian Coordinate Rectilinear Grid System (1637) which went on to establish the foundational platform of all modern math and science. Thanks to Rene Descartes (the man infamous for his quote "I think therefore I am,") the ceiling of perception validated only the reality of the 3 dimensions of physical space. The coordinates of X,Y, and Z rendered the fourth dimension obsolete from our worldview.

At that moment, time became reduced from its qualitative essence to that of a quantity. The mind who adopted the lens of the linear grid also adopted the limited perception of time as a 3rd dimensional linear progression of pure duration.

Our societal paradigms have continued to operate with these limitations in place. Thus if something can not be seen, touched, or proven with measurements, it does not, in effect, exist.

Through the Cartesian lens, Nature has become reduced to pure quantifiable resources - no longer a living qualitative aspect of ourselves, but now something outside of ourselves which we observe, analyze and ultimately come to replicate, manipulate, dominate, toxify, and even destroy or extinguish. As Rene Descartes stated plainly,"I perceived it to be possible to arrive at knowledge highly useful in life...and thus render ourselves the lords and possessors of nature."


It seems the modern world wants nothing more than to improve upon Nature, or at least extract her wisdoms and magical properties in order to make a buck by fulfilling increasing consumer demand.

And so, here we are - currently living the last 7 years of both a 5,125 year Creation Cycle, and the last 8 years of a 26,000 Grand Cycle, the Precession of the Equinoxes.

The coming end date of December 21, 2012 is also written as 13.0.0.0.0. in Mayan long count notation; just like the beginning date.

Scholar and author John Major Jenkins reports,"On 13.0.0.0.0, the December solstice sun will be found in the band of the Milky Way. We can call this an alignment between the galactic plane and the solstice meridian. This is an event that has slowly converged over a period of thousands of years, and is caused by the precession of the equinoxes. The place where the December solstice sun crosses the Milky Way is precisely the location of the "dark-rift in the Milky Way...'xibalba be' - the road to the underworld."

On the winter solstice of 2012, the noonday Sun exactly conjuncts the crossing point of the sun's ecliptic with the galactic plane, while also closely conjuncting the exact the center of the galaxy.

Jenkins further proposes that this grand cross in time is symbolized by the Mayan Tree of Life, found at the core of Mayan cosmology.

We are being invited to realize that we are Time. We are the Living Prophecy. The Synchronic Order of Natural Time governs the unfolding of our lives. Time's cycles are found within our bodies and within Nature's daily rhythms and cyclic seasons. We have forgotten this, thinking that time is money or that time is the clock, or the relentless progression of work weeks and weekends. Time is the ever-changing, unfolding Now as it synchronistically coordinates the Whole living Universe.

From his studies into ancient Mayan Time-Science, Dr. Jose Arguelles decoded the mathematical nature of the Synchronic Order,
The Law of Time:
There is only one timing frequency which unifies the whole galactic order from its largest constituent to its smallest. This timing frequency is the 13:20 ratio, found within the harmonic structure of the 13 moon calendar as well as our human bodies - our 13 main joints and 20 fingers and toes.
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Knowing that we are the prophecy, what does it mean to be nearing this return, and what can we expect - personally as well as planetarily?

These times are so accelerated that no answer could encompass the vast implications of the phase we are in. A range of responses are available to us. Depending on who you talk to and what area you research, one can find all kinds of claims as to what can be expected. From cataclysm to enlightenment, world war to world peace, massive earth changes and physical destruction, to massive spiritual awakening to our inherent oneness, there are many views of the implications of the approaching year 2012, 2013, and beyond. One thing is clear - we are right in the thick of this critical, transformative period! As this date approaches, we are collectively in a transition phase of the old world dying and a new world being born.

This moment on Earth, with all of its heightened energies, has never existed before. The opportunities and challenges of today's world are the climax of all that has preceded us. Never before has the population of this planet increased by 216,000 people a day! Never before has the Earth's biosphere been in such a precarious state. That which seems like normal lifestyle decisions and behaviors are but precedents set by our modern standards - not necessarily reflecting the most balanced, healthy, or sane way to operate. It is for us to decipher how to live our lives with integrity; to determine what truths empower us to model our lives according to our greatest harmonious potential.

All that is manifesting on the inner and outer planes reflects the sacred intensity of these prophetic times. More than ever, the polarities and imbalances within us and around us are becoming clearer. Love, beauty, exuberance, and compassion permeate this world - multi-faceted victories of art, co-creation, community support, healing and evolution shine all around us, illumating the spirited grace of our true nature. Meanwhile, this world is steeped in fear, brutality, pain, and disease - endless anguish of anxiety, separation, disconnection, confusion, isolation - alongside the toxic realities of egoic, callous greed and corruption, materialism, addiction, and dangerous ignorance. This is now the time to embrace all that has been dishonored or denied, for it is emerging to be purified and sanctified. Accountability is required on all levels of our existence. The cosmic climate is changing at rapid rates, allowing us to now transduce and shed egoic programs of fear and limitation easier than in the past.

Science reveals that Earth's base resonant frequency is increasing (Earth's heart-beat), and that the magnetic fields of the planet are dropping - reflected in the shifting migration patterns of animals. These shiftings of the Earth's body allow us to release unwanted baggage - mental, physical and emotional patterns, conditioning, beliefs, attitudes, and programming. Simultaneously, that which we think or desire is becoming actualized more and more swiftly.

A peak point in this time on Earth is what's called the "transition of the biosphere into the no-osphere." According to Russian scientist V.I.Vernadsky,"This is the result of a climax of human self-reflective thought and industry upon the environment, resulting in an exponential change in consciousness in which all becomes revealed and known."

As many of us are well aware, much of the genetic potential we are born with is lying dormant within us, waiting to be turned on. This is definitely an important aspect of this time of Quickening. We can only imagine what the full activation of our DNA will allow us to accomplish and manifest for Planetary healing and restoration. It has been foretold that we will be able to transmute the problems of our 3rd dimensional physical reality by utilizing our own stored, internal technology. More and more this is happening.

Now in action is the worldwide grassroots movement which utilizes sound vibrations to clear pollution and (geopathic) earth stresses, producing amazing results. www.earthtransitions.com. Using the ancient sciences of focused prayer and intention, channeled through post-Tesla energy technology, toxic matter is being transformed.

The time has never been so ripe to realize eachother as "one planetary organism in contact with itself anywhere on the planet." The Emergence of our Empowered Potential, Our Divinity is presenting itself to be claimed. How to experience this reality consciously? Where-ever one looks, the universal answer points to one's own body, one's own mental attitude, the energy of one's own heart, one's own living breath as the beginning place of orientation to feel one's unique connection to and expression of the functioning of Totality.

As the frequencies continue to raise, our connection to the fourth dimension continues to rapidly increase. This allows for maximum transformation and mutation of who we are and how we live life, or how life lives us! Doors of opportunity ever-presenting themselves, any limit we might place upon what's possible in these next 7 years is not recommended. Let us instead Dream the Exaltation of Humanity and all of Life on Earth.

Returning to Natural Time

Valum Votan, "Closer of The Cycle" - final messenger of Pacal Votan's prophecy, prescribes the fulfillment of human destiny as a collective return to natural time via the synchronization of the 13-moon 28-day calendar. Using this harmonic, ancient, and accurate standard of measure, we make a whole-systems transition into conscious resonance with our living universe.

In these intense times of uncertainty, we need all the navigational assistance possible for our everyday consciousness to be in harmony with Earth. The 13 Moon calendar helps us re-harmonize our bodies and minds to the natural patterns and cycles of the Earth and Stars.

Learning a new calendar may seem hard or even intimidating, but this is the time to try something new. As Valum Votan states, "It's the untried solution; the harmonic solution." What we're being asked to do is let go of what has been common for so long - the irregularity of the 12-month calendar - and embrace the accuracy of the 13-moon calendar.

Overlayed upon the perfect framework of the 13 moon year, is another layer of natural time - the "sacred count of days," a cycle of 260-days which flows through the year, giving each day a unique "Galactic Gateway." This sacred cycle composed of 260 distinct energies is called the Galactic Spin cycle. As a modern version of the ancient Mayan Tzolkin, it puts us directly in touch with the creational energies which compose our inner and outer world.

The benefit of utilizing this harmonic module (Tzolkin) is that it serves as a clear map of the 260 energetic portals of self inquiry which assist our quickening. As we use these lenses to see deeper into ourselves, we come to know the purpose which every moment holds. We come to hear the guidance which calls to us in every interaction of our lives. We perceive the clues which are waiting to bestow information. The more we surrender into the natural flow of life's timing, the more directly we are informed by time as the universal frequency of synchronization.

The source of these calendar codes is the "Dreamspell" - the modern application of ancient Mayan time-science, brought to us by Dr. Jos

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Post time 15-5-2007 08:29 PM | Show all posts
Mayan Calendar

When it came to mathematics, time and calendars, the Maya were geniuses. Believing that time repeated itself in cycles, they devised two calendars, one ritualistic, which was used for religious celebrations and astrological predictions, and the other a solar calendar. Both calendars were based on the calculation that a year had a little more than 365 days, a more precise system than the Gregorian calendar. Following the movement of the sun, moon and stars with such accuracy, the Maya were able to predict such mystifying phenomena as eclipses and the Spring and Autumn equinoxes.

The Maya kept time with a combination of several cycles that meshed together to mark the movement of the sun, moon and Venus. Their ritual calendar, known as the Tzolkin, was composed of 260 days. It pairs the numbers from 1 through 13 with a sequence of 20 day-names. It works something like our days of the week pairing with the numbers of the month. Thus you might have 1-Imix (similar to Sunday the 1st) followed by 2-Ik (just as you would have Monday the 2nd). When you get to 13-Ben, the next day would start the numbers over again, thus 1-Ix, 2-Men etc. It will take 260 days before the cycle gets back to 1-Imix again (13 x 20).

The 20 day-names, meaning and symbol can vary in different Maya languages. Also, each day can be represented with more elaborate glyphs known as "Head Variants" - a formal writing system which can be loosely compared to our script alphabet versus our print alphabet. The Tzolkin calendar was meshed with a 365-day solar cycle called the "Haab". The calendar consisted of 18 months with 20 days (numbered 0-19) and a short "month" of only 5 days that was called the Wayeb and was considered to be a dangerous time. It took 52 years for the Tzolkin and Haab calendars to move through a complete cycle.

These are the Mayan words for periods of time:
Day = Kin (keen)
Month of 20 days = Uinal (wee nal)
Year of 360 days = Tun (toon)
20 Tuns = K'atun (k' ah toon)
20 K'atuns = Baktun (bock toon)

The Maya could easily determine these dates, because at local noon, they cast no shadow. Zenial passage observations are possible only in the Tropics and were quite unknown to the Spanish conquistadors who descended upon the Yucatan peninsula in the 16th century. The Maya had a god to represented this position of the Sun called the Diving God.
End of the Mayan Great Cycle: December 21st, 2012 A.D.

Scholars today are recognizing that Mayan mythology is intimately related to the celestial movements of stars, the Milky Way and certain constellations. The sources of Mayan mythology are found in the sky, and the timetable of Creation Day is pinpointed by the end date of the Mayan Great Cycle. My research into the nature of this date reveals that a rare celestial alignment culminates on it. Generally speaking, what occurs is an alignment between the galactic and solar planes. Specifically, the winter solstice sun will conjunct the Milky Way, which is the edge of our spinning galaxy as viewed from earth. Furthermore, the place where the sun meets the Milky Way is where the "dark-rift" in the Milky Way is - a black ridge along the Milky Way caused by interstellar dust clouds.

At dawn on the winter solstice of A.D. 2012, the sun will be right in this dark-rift, and the orientation is such that the Milky Way rims the horizon at all points around. Thus, the Milky Way "sits" on the earth, touching it at all points around, opening up the cosmic sky portal. The galactic and solar planes are thus aligned. "Sky portal" is just a term to describe the "opened sky" scenario apparent when the Milky Way rims the horizon. This is not to be confused with the "dark-rift" itself.

In Mayan myth, the winter solstice sun corresponds to the deity One Hunahpu, also known as First Father. The Mayan Sacred Book, the Popol Vuh, is all about setting the stage so that the Hero Twins' father (One Hunahpu) can be reborn, thus beginning a new World Age. The dark rift has many mythic identities: it is the Black Road; it is the xibalba be (the Road to the Underworld); it is a crevice in the branches of the cosmic tree (the Milky Way); it is the mouth of the Cosmic Monster (often portrayed as a frog, jaguar or snake with tree-like features); it is the birth canal of the Cosmic Mother.

Overall, the dark-rift is best understood as the birth canal of the Cosmic Mother, who we may call First Mother, to complement First Father. In this way we can trace how these various metaphors are found in Mayan Creation Mythology. And the date of this alignment is, again, the end date of the 13-baktun Great Cycle - a cycle of approximately 5125 years. This all suggests that the ancient Maya were aware of the impending alignment and considered it to be of such importance to be a major transition point, the Creation of a new World Age. In mythological terms, this event is about the union of First Father with First Mother or, more accurately, the birth of First Father (the winter solstice sun - the new World Age ruler) from First Mother (the dark-rift in the Milky Way). The headline appropriate for the upcoming event is: "Cosmic Mother Gives Birth to The First God."



macam ni, aku memang berminat dengan tahun 2012 ni. banyak ramalan yg mengatakan ada sesuatu yg "besar" akan berlaku pada tahun ni. aku nak tahu apa dia. kalau nak kata kiamat, belum tentu lagi, coz imam mahadi belum turun lagi, dajjal pun tak keluar lagi. pendek kata, tanda2 besar kiamat masih lagi belum muncul. tp mungkin 2012 adalah salah satu daripadanya.

tepatnya 12 desember 2012 adalah akhir dari kalender kaum maya. kaum maya percaya bahawa tanggal ini merujuk pada "kelahiran zaman baru" dan "kelahiran kembali dari matahari". Menurut penanggalan kaum maya, nanti pada tahun 2012 itu dunia akan memasuki pusingan 26,000 tahunan yang ke 5, dan dunia akan bertransformasi ke bentuk selanjutnya (every cycle ends with a cataclysm). Ada yg mengatakan pada tahun 2012 itu magnetic field bumi akan jadi pada titik 0 sehingga bumi berhenti berputar beberapa saat dan kemudian berputar berlawanan arah dibanding sekarang, sehingga matahari akan terbit di barat, (bukanke matahari terbit dari barat merupakan salah satu tanda kiamat?) bukan di timur, etc (which explains the mayan prophecy "the rebirth of father sun". only God knows what will happen in 2012.)

even nostradamus jugak ada meramal sesuatu akan terjadi pada tahun 2012 ni. mengikut ramalannya peratus besar penduduk bumi akan "hilang". aku nak tahu apa maksudnya. menurut apa yg aku dah selidik, kehilangan kaum maya mungkin ada kaitan dgn tahun 2012 ni. mama loren (ntah sape ni)  dari indonesia pun ada meramal yg penduduk di indonesia hanya akan tinggal sebanyak 40 % dari jumlah sekarang. samada global disaster ataupun sesuatu yg "rumit" akan berlaku pada 2012. menurut apa yg aku baca, tanda2 sebelum terjadinya fenomena besar ni jugak dah keluar seperti global warming, earthquakes yg dasyat dan DNA manusia.

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Post time 16-5-2007 12:53 AM | Show all posts
lately makin byk lak buku psl mnde ni kuar.
aritu dh nmpk 2-3 buah kat mph.
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Post time 18-5-2007 08:51 AM | Show all posts
kaum maya ni memang canggih..ahli astronomi mereka sgt advance, walau bagaimana pun penentu mutlak adalah Allah, tiada yg dapat mendahului Allah.
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Post time 19-5-2007 11:05 PM | Show all posts
December 21st, 2012 A.D.

hari jumaat
cuba korang check, aku tengok dlm kalendar computer aku-hari tu hari jumaat
kiamat memang hari jumaat, seram gak!
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Post time 20-5-2007 09:36 AM | Show all posts

Reply #7 dory_ann's post

Nabi pun tak tau bila.....

Apa yang aku baca dari prophecy tu...tak kira la kiamat 2012 ke esok ke, masalah yang diutarakan ialah betapa kurangnya penduduk Bumi menghargai alam sekitar...meh la kita jaga alam sekitar. Jangan buang sampah dalam sungai, kurangkan hisap rokok, minimakan penggunaan kenderaan bermotor...mungkin tak berkesan secara keseluruhan, tapi kurang la satu punca pencemaran....
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Post time 12-6-2007 03:20 PM | Show all posts

Mayan Prophecy - Year 2012 - Doomsday/Apocalypse

2 minggu lepas, aku beli satu buku kat kinokuniya bertajuk "2012: the year of mayan prophecy". ni antara beberap buku yg berkisar pada topik yg sama, iaitu mengikut kalendar tamadun org maya, doomsday atau apocalypse (kiamat) akan terjadi pada tahun 2012. ada byk buku yang mcm ni aku jumpa kat shelf bestseller kat kino hari tu, so aku pilih yg aku rasa paling best. finished the book in 2 days.

secara ringkas apa buku cite ialah kepercayaan org2 tamadun maya di amerika selatan yang percaya pada tahun 2012, dunia akan hancur. bagi org yang pernah baca atau mengkaji tamadun maya ni, kita tau la civilisation tamadun maya ni memang advanced gila dan amat pelik. dorang ni memang kaji bintang dan amat arif dalam bidang astrology samapai mampu bina calendar dapat menentukan tarikh dan masa yang amat tepat untuk beribu-ribu tahun. contoh dia, kalau kita guna kalendar yang terdapat pada anak tangga piramid di peninggaln kota maya, calendar tu boleh digunakan bagi mengkaji kedudukan matahari dan bintang-bintang di langit contohnya 3000 tahun dulu. punyalah accurate calendar matahari.

aku baca dalam satu buku lain yang aku cross refer, kalau kita perhatikan pada bentuk corak anak tangga piramid ni, ada sekor ular besar, beralun2 naik atas sampai ke puncak. kat bhg paling atas sekali ada satu bentuk bulat, represent bumi atau pun matahari. setiap hari, bayang akan gelapkan sikit demi sikit bdn luar tu, sampai satu hari, bahagian yg gelap tu sampai ke bahagian bulat tu. tahu tak hari apa bila bayang hitam sampai ke bahagian bulat tu? hari gerhana matahari!!! punyalah accurate. bygkan kaum yg hidup beribu tahun dulu dpt cipta kalendar gerhana matahri yang amat2 tepat sampai boleh guna hingga hari ni.

ada satu lagi anak tangga lepas bentuk bulat. dan mengikut perkiraan org maya, bila bayang matahri cecah anak tangga yg last tu, tuhan mereka, Quetzalcoatl, akan muncul semula dari "perantauan" dia, bwk tamadun dan cara hidup yg baru dan seterusnya bila byg matahari tu lepas anak tangga tu, dunia akan musnah. to state the obvious, byg matahari tak pernah lagi sentuk anak tangga yg last tu. dah lebih 200 thaun dah org observe benda ni, tak penah. dan mengikut perkiraan kalendar matahari tamadun maya ni, byg tu akan cecah anak tangga terakhir pada tahun 2012. personally, kalau berdasarkan ketepatan kalendar matahari piramid tu selama ni, aku percaya byg tu akan cecah anak tangga tu tahun 2012.

so, isu2 dia:

(1) apa pendapat korang tentang ramalan tamadun maya ni?
(2) tepat ke prediction ni?
(3) kenapa cerita dia sama mcm cite org kristian tunggu nabi isa dihidupkan semula dan org islam tunggu nabi isa turun dari langit sebagai precursor hari kiamat? sapa tiru sapa? bear in mind mayan civilisation collapsed in 8-9 AD. jadi tamadun tu berkembang way before that.

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Post time 12-6-2007 06:14 PM | Show all posts

Reply #1 Fussy*****'s post

ermmm.... ijad heran sgt la....
nape skrg ni byk sgt kuar artikel psl kedtgan hari kiamat dari segi kepercayaan tamadun maya?
ijad susah nk pecaya kata2 atau ramalan kononnya dunia akan hancur pd 2012...

Biar betapa hebat sekali pon teknologi tamadun maya, mereka ttp hamba Allah & x boleh melawan kuasaNya...
Biar betapa hebat sekali pon mereka dlm hal meramal bintang2 nih, x mungkin mereka boleh menilik dgn tepat bila tibanya hari kiamat...

apa2 sekali pon, kita kena ingat bahawa hanya Allah saje yg tau bila kiamat akan muncul....
samada dunia akan kiamat pd 2012 atau tidak, itu bukan urusan kita...
Itu urusan Allah... tugas kita adalah beribadat kepadaNya & memakmurkan bumi Allah ini....

kita sebagai umat Islam x elok percaya bahawa dunia akan kiamat pd tarikh/tahun2 tertentu sbb itu dh kira salah di sisi Islam...
Kalo kita terlalu pecaya/taksub pd hal2 mcm ni, dikhuatiri akan mengkucar-kacirkan masyarakat, pastu muncul la ajaran sesat dimana ada manusia yg mula mengaku dialah Imam Mahdi & byk lg kesan2 negatif......

Rasullulah dan para nabi/rasul yg lain pon x tau bila hari kiamat akan tiba, so apa lg manusia biasa mcm kaum Maya tu??

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Post time 13-6-2007 12:24 AM | Show all posts
topik ni dah ada...dh lama org bincangkan.
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Post time 14-6-2007 06:17 PM | Show all posts
leh ler merge kan thread nih..
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Post time 15-6-2007 01:57 AM | Show all posts
dah ada dah topik nih....cuba cek kat misteri planet nibirus....

orang maya saja jer nak claim bahawa 2012 ialah tarikh kiamat,kerana menurut mereka,planet nibirus akan melintasi sekali lagi ke planet bumi pada tahun 2012,dan efek yang berlaku pada planet bumi ialah,air pasang surut tidak menentu dan terjadi banjir besar disebabkan daya tarikan graviti planet tersebut yang terlalu kuat......tuh jer.....cek balik kat posting "misteri planet nibirus.."
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Post time 15-6-2007 02:00 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Fussy***** at 12-6-2007 03:20 PM
2 minggu lepas, aku beli satu buku kat kinokuniya bertajuk "2012: the year of mayan prophecy". ni antara beberap buku yg berkisar pada topik yg sama, iaitu mengikut kalendar tamadun org ...

satu bende aku nak betulkan.......

sebelum kelahiran nabi isa sekalipun,ada nabi nabi sebelumnya.maka,nabi nabi yang sbelumnya telah lama ujud lebih dari 25000 tahun yang lalu.....maka ilmu pengetahuan tentang adanya hari kiamat sudah lama di ajar kepada kaum kaum yang dihantar oleh Allah taala (yakni pengutusNYA yaitu Rasul dan Nabi)......takde isu mengenai siapa tiru siapa.

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Post time 15-6-2007 01:20 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by GRINDSAKHTANIC at 15-6-2007 02:00 AM
satu bende aku nak betulkan.......

sebelum kelahiran nabi isa sekalipun,ada nabi nabi sebelumnya.maka,nabinabi yang sbelumnya telah lama ujud lebih dari 25000 tahun yanglalu.....maka ilmu pengetahuan tentang adanya hari kiamat sudah lama diajar kepada kaum kaum yang dihantar oleh Allah taala (yakni pengutusNYAyaitu Rasul dan Nabi)......takde isu mengenai siapa tiru siapa.


setuju sgt...
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Post time 15-6-2007 02:50 PM | Show all posts
1 lg propaganda barat yg meracuni fikiran org ISLAM.Allahuakbar
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Post time 15-6-2007 10:55 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Fussy***** at 12-6-2007 03:20 PM
2 ..bila bayang matahri cecah anak tangga yg last tu, tuhan mereka, Quetzalcoatl, akan muncul semula dari "perantauan" dia, bwk tamadun dan cara hidup yg baru dan seterusnya bila byg matahari tu lepas anak tangga tu, dunia .


2012 ni ada kaitan dgn perlaksanaan new world order ke?
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Post time 16-6-2007 12:58 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by aizverus at 16-6-2007 12:18 PM
ingat!!!! berFIKIR....bukan serah bulat2 kat tuhan...

bila kata kiamat...alah itu kerja tuhan....nampak sangat korang ni orang yg BERPUTUS ASA!!!!

korang malas nak berfikir!!!

apa lagi nak berfikir di luar kotak pemikiran!!!


adehhh... pedasnya kata2 saudara... terasa sungguh....
sbnrnya ijad x bermaksud bila kata itu urusan tuhan, maka kita (manusia) x perlu masuk campur...
ijad setuju dgn apa yg saudara katakan...
lebih baik kita kaji perihal gejala tanda2 kedtgan ari kiamat dan bukan tarikh bila jadinya ari kiamat...
sbb walupon dh byk tanda2 kiamat yg dh muncul tp masih terdpt byk tanda2 kiamat lain yg belum muncul...

sbnrnya ijad cuma x setuju dgn pendpt sesetgh org bahawa hari kiamat akan berlaku pd 2012 mengikut kepercayaan Maya...
sdgkan Al-Quran sndiri x penah kata pape psl tarikh kiamat melainkan ia akan berlaku pd hari jumaat....
org islam sendiri ramai yg terpengaruh dgn dakwaan karut-marut mcm nih....
adakah mereka x berfikir??

HARAP MAKLUM!! ahaks..
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Post time 16-6-2007 01:13 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by aizverus at 16-6-2007 12:18 PM
askum...

dah lama aku tak masuk forum...
arini aku nak lepas geram...siap korang!!!:@

thread ni dah ader dan kepada sesiapa yg nak bukak thread baru sila lah cheak page forum yg dah lepas ...

apa yang ko merepek nih??ko marah dengan siapa??aku dah la cuba membetulkan keadaan disini,ko marah marah apsal??
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Post time 18-6-2007 01:44 AM | Show all posts

Reply #1 Fussy*****'s post

Salam

I dont know about others opinion but IMHO....

U mengutarakan tajuk yg menarik n berilmu tetapi nickname n avatar u mencacatkan suasana..... Kita hidup dlm tamadun

Sorry to say....

Sex is a normal thing... tapi jgn la jakun sgt




ps. I kasi gak u kredit... sebab I ada prinsip tersendiri dlm memberi kredit

take care
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