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GAY rights in ISLAM?

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Post time 18-7-2008 11:57 PM | Show all posts |Read mode
Abdul Khalik ,  The Jakarta Post ,  Jakarta   |  Fri, 03/28/2008 1:38 AM  |  Headlines

Homosexuals and homosexuality are natural and created by God, thus permissible within Islam, a discussion concluded here Thursday.

Moderate Muslim scholars said there were no reasons to reject homosexuals under Islam, and that the condemnation of homosexuals and homosexuality by mainstream ulema and many other Muslims was based on narrow-minded interpretations of Islamic teachings.

Siti Musdah Mulia of the Indonesia Conference of Religions and Peace cited the Koran's al-Hujurat (49:3) that one of the blessings for human beings was that all men and women are equal, regardless of ethnicity, wealth, social positions or even sexual orientation.

"There is no difference between lesbians and nonlesbians. In the eyes of God, people are valued based on their piety," she told the discussion organized by nongovernmental organization Arus Pelangi.

"And talking about piety is God's prerogative to judge," she added.

"The essence of the religion (Islam) is to humanize humans, respect and dignify them."

Musdah said homosexuality was from God and should be considered natural, adding it was not pushed only by passion.

Mata Air magazine managing editor Soffa Ihsan said Islam's acknowledgement of heterogeneity should also include homosexuality.

He said Muslims needed to continue to embrace ijtihad (the process of making a legal decision by independent interpretation of the Koran and the Sunnah) to avoid being stuck in the old paradigm without developing open-minded interpretations.

Another speaker at the discussion, Nurofiah of the Nahdlatul Ulama (NU), said the dominant notion of heterogeneity was a social construction, leading to the banning of homosexuality by the majority.

"Like gender bias or patriarchy, heterogeneity bias is socially constructed. It would be totally different if the ruling group was homosexuals," she said.

Other speakers said the magnificence of Islam was that it could be blended and integrated into local culture.

"In fact, Indonesia's culture has accepted homosexuality. The homosexual group in Bugis-Makassar tradition called Bissu is respected and given a high position in the kingdom.

"Also, we know that in Ponorogo (East Java) there has been acknowledgement of homosexuality," Arus Pelangi head Rido Triawan said.

Condemnation of homosexuality was voiced by two conservative Muslim groups, the Indonesian Ulema Council (MUI) and Hizbut Thahir Indonesia (HTI).

"It's a sin. We will not consider homosexuals an enemy, but we will make them aware that what they are doing is wrong," MUI deputy chairman Amir Syarifuddin said.

Rokhmat, of the hardline HTI, several times asked homosexual participants in attendance to repent and force themselves to gradually return to the right path.

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Post time 19-7-2008 01:47 AM | Show all posts
LOLZ...GAY have no rights....
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Post time 19-7-2008 09:35 AM | Show all posts

Reply #2 cloud279's post

kalau semua jenis kejahatan di simpatikan dan dibenarkan....

tak lama lagi kita akan ada macam2 rights.....

murderer has rights, drug addict has rights, nudist has rights(dah ada pun)

rapist has rights.....

apa lagi....semua di simpatkan dan ada rights masing2....
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Post time 19-7-2008 09:35 AM | Show all posts

Reply #2 cloud279's post

kalau semua jenis kejahatan di simpatikan dan dibenarkan....

tak lama lagi kita akan ada macam2 rights.....

murderer has rights, drug addict has rights, nudist has rights(dah ada pun)

rapist has rights.....

apa lagi....semua di simpatkan dan ada rights masing2....
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Post time 19-7-2008 10:37 AM | Show all posts

Reply #4 ussopp's post

betul, sumbang mahram pun dah boleh kat sesetengah negara.tak lama, mencuri, membunuh, merogol pun boleh sebab dah ada rights
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Post time 19-7-2008 11:09 AM | Show all posts
:@ :@ :@ :@ :@ :@ :@ :@ :@

dunia dh nk kiamat..
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Post time 19-7-2008 08:42 PM | Show all posts
Dia cerita pasal lesbian ke?
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Post time 20-7-2008 03:42 AM | Show all posts
da terang2 yg jenis gay/lesbo ni dilaknat Allah.
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Post time 20-7-2008 11:01 AM | Show all posts
gays ada right?

kalu gay ada right, kenapa Allah turunkan bala kepada kaum Nabi Luth?

kat situ je dah terang2 yg gay nih dikutuk
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Post time 20-7-2008 12:02 PM | Show all posts

Reply #8 piqa666's post

yg dlm avatar kau tu kena laknat tak?
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Post time 20-7-2008 12:09 PM | Show all posts

Reply #10 ibnur's post

heheheheh...satu persoalan yang belum dijawab...macammana plak kalau dia gay, tapi dia tak buat macam gay??..Adakah dilaknat jua?
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Post time 20-7-2008 02:18 PM | Show all posts
insya-Allah...pasai die kapior..huhu
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Post time 20-7-2008 05:11 PM | Show all posts

Reply #11 eastrun's post

Hati dan perasaan ni benda kompleks.. apa yg bakal datang dalam hati ni di luar kawalan kita... tapi apa yg kita lakukan dengan perbuatan kita itulah perkara yg kita boleh kawal.. jadi sekiranya dia ada perasaan tu, tetapi berusaha mengawal dirinya dari melakukan perkara-perkara yg salah, I believe Allah itu lebih mengetahui.
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Post time 20-7-2008 07:00 PM | Show all posts

Balas #12 piqa666\ catat

agak-agak kau ada bahagian tak, kalau tayang benda yang di laknat?
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Post time 20-7-2008 08:19 PM | Show all posts
tayang muke orang pn tak leyh ke???
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Post time 20-7-2008 08:32 PM | Show all posts

Reply #15 piqa666's post

tak leh la.........
guna common sense pun bley tau, wahai rakanku.....

jangan mara...no.....
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Post time 20-7-2008 10:34 PM | Show all posts
okay laaaa..pasni letak muke sendiri laaaa.
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Post time 21-7-2008 01:50 PM | Show all posts

Reply #8 piqa666's post

aku stuju....
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Post time 21-7-2008 08:17 PM | Show all posts
da letak muke sendiri daa..
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Post time 21-7-2008 11:08 PM | Show all posts

Balas #20 piqa666\ catat

betul ke apa?  entah gamba nurul izah?
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