Intresting conversation

michiru_iko

A VERY INTERESTING CONVERSATION

    An Atheist Professor of Philosophy was speaking to his Class on the Problem
    Science has with GOD , the ALMIGHTY. He asked one of his New
    Students to stand and . . .

    Professor o you Believe in GOD ?
    Student : Absolutely, sir.
    Professor : Is GOD Good ?
    Student : Sure.
    Professor : Is GOD ALL - POWERFUL ?
    Student : Yes.
    Professor : My Brother died of Cancer even though he prayed to GOD to heal
    him. Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill. But GOD didn't.
    How is this GOD good then? Hmm?

    (Student was silent
     )

    Professor : You can't answer, can you ? Let's start again, Young fella.
    Is
    GOD Good?
    Student : Yes.
    Professor : Is Satan good ?
    Student : No.
    Professor : Where does Satan come from ?
    Student : From . . . GOD . . .
    Professor : That's right. Tell me son, is there evil in this world?
    Student : Yes.
    Professor : Evil is everywhere, isn't it ? And GOD did make everything.
    Correct?
    Student : Yes.
    Professor : So who created evil ?

    (Student did not answer)

    Professor : Is there Sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these
    terrible things exist in the world, don't they?
    Student : Yes, sir.
    Professor : So, who created them ?

    (Student ha d no answer)

    Professor : Science says you have 5 senses you use to identify and observe
    the world around you. Tell me, son . . . Have you ever seen GOD?
    Student : No, sir.
    Professor : Tell us if you have ever heard your GOD?
    Student
     : No , sir.
    Professor : Have you ever felt your GOD , tasted your GOD , smelt your GOD ?
    Have you ever had any sensory perception of GOD for that matter?
    Student : No, sir. I'm afraid I haven't.
    Professor : Yet you still believe in HIM?
    Student : Yes.
    Professor : According to empirical, testable, demonstrable protocol, science
    says your GOD doesn't exist. What do you say to that, son?
    Student : Nothing. I only have my faith.
    Professor : Yes, faith. And that is the problem science has.
    Student : Professor, is there such a thing as heat?
    Professor : Yes.
    Student : And is there such a thing as cold?
    Professor : Yes.
    Student : No, sir. There isn't..

    (The Lecture Theatre became very quiet with this turn of events )

    Student : Sir, you can have lots of heat, even more heat, superheat, mega
    Heat, white Heat, a little heat or no heat. But we don't have anything
    called cold. We can hit 458 degrees
     below zero which is no heat, but we
    can't go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold. Cold is
    only a word we use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure
    cold. Heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the
    absence of it.

    (There was pin-drop silence in the Lecture Theatre )

    Student : What about darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as darkness?
    Professor : Yes. What is night if there isn't darkness?
    Student : You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is the absence of something.
    You
    can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light . . but if
    you have no light constantly, you have nothing and its called darkness,
    isn't it? In reality, darkness isn't. If it is, were you would be able
    to
    make darkness darker, wouldn't you?

    Professor : So what is the point you are making, Young Man ?
    Student : Sir, my point is your Philosophical premise is
     flawed.
    Professor : Flawed ? Can you explain how?
    Student : Sir, you are working on the premise of duality. You argue there is
    life and then there is death, a Good GOD and a Bad GOD. You are viewing the
    concept of GOD as something finite, something we can measure. Sir, science
    can't even explain a thought. It uses electricity and magnetism, but has
    never seen, much less fully understood either one. To view death as the
    opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a
    substantive thing. Death is not the opposite of life: just the absence of
    it. Now tell me, Professor, do you teach your students that they evolved
    from a monkey?
    Professor : If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, yes,
    of course, I do.

    Student : Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?

    (The Professor shook his head with a smile, beginning to realize where the
    argument was going
     )

    Student : Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work
    and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor, are you not
    teaching your opinion, sir? Are you not a scientist but a preacher?

    (The class was in uproar )

    Student : Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the professor's
    brain?

    (The class broke out into laughter )

    Student : Is there anyone here who has ever heard the Professor's brain,
    felt it, touched or smelt it? . . .
    No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established rules of
    empirical, stable, demonstrable protocol, Science says that you have no
    brain, sir. With all due respect, sir, how do we then trust your lectures,
    sir?

    (The room was silent. The Professor stared at the student, his face
    unfathomable)

    Professor : I guess you'll have to take them on faith, son.
    Student : That is it sir . . . exactly ! The
     link between MAN & GOD is
    FAITH. That is all that keeps things alive and moving.

    NB:
    That student was Albert Einstein.

x pasti dah ada atau belum? tp kalau dah ada momod merge laa ea...just 4 sharing..

misssagi

good one...saja nak tau, dr mana u dpt ni? thx

my-alja

gud one....
my komen is....nasib dia diskus dgn prof omputih
kalo dapat prof melayu....mau kena halau, keluar kelas

redsinner

how true, kalo setakat kluar kelas takper. pastu dok jaja cite kat lecturer lain. sampai sudah budak tu tak grad2 pun. kena failed dgn lecturers. kesiann...

ada sedikit pengalaman sendiri.

my-alja

Originally posted by redsinner at 9-4-2009 00:32
how true, kalo setakat kluar kelas takper. pastu dok jaja cite kat lecturer lain. sampai sudah budak tu tak grad2 pun. kena failed dgn lecturers. kesiann...

ada sedikit pengalaman sendiri. :l ...

haaaa....boleh jadi tak grad2 sebab menjawab prof
sick mentality of our educationist

journey7148

good conversation - buat kita fikir

redsinner

dats why half of my batch went overseas for their further degrees dear...

coming back to the topic... a good conversation is a critical one. definitely not the ones acheivable in malaysian skools n education system.

michiru_iko

got it from e mail

mbhcsf

Originally posted by michiru_iko at 8-4-2009 09:16
A VERY INTERESTING CONVERSATION

    An Atheist Professor of Philosophy was speaking to his Class on the Problem
    Science has with GOD , the ALMIGHTY. He asked one of his New
    Students  ...

when was this alleged dialogue had taken place?

something about light Vs darkness is interesting

truly i love this conversation....



well compare the dialogue with what you ahve read in Dan Brown's Angels and demons..................

very very interesting , INDEED

mbhcsf

If you ever had one, only with profs with enough exposure .....tapi u will learn lah ...tapi yg nak tanya tu pun kena you know jadi budak nakal ler dalam kelas , sanggup dilabel sebagai  heheh

i nevermind.....

mbhcsf

i do not mind if i were to have a husband like this - I would enjoy this for life....insya ALLAH

michiru_iko

waa tinggi harapan mbhcsf nie...

mbhcsf

hmm? tinggi yer...? hehehe...u know that's what  i want to see in a gentleman.

michiru_iko

yup agak tinggi harapan awk tu.. takut nanti u yang merana n kecewa impian x tercapai2...

my-alja

Originally posted by michiru_iko at 17-4-2009 08:12
yup agak tinggi harapan awk tu.. takut nanti u yang merana n kecewa impian x tercapai2...

hihihi...susah nak dpt lelaki cerdik sekarang nie
kalo dpt yg cerdik pun.....dgn g/f or bini
hilang semua kecerdikkan tu

mbhcsf

hahhahahaahhaa...............alaaaa...itu cuma harapan  tapi nak gak macam tu ....if Allah see fits..habis tu takkan nak ambil postgrad kat PUSAT SERENTI?hmm?

mbhcsf

alaaaa...itu what i want to see ...it dioes not mean you know it is an ultimatum ...tinggi ker? I bukan nak Einstein yang oi..i nak a person with a good thinking .....

my-alja

Originally posted by mbhcsf at 17-4-2009 11:32
hahhahahaahhaa...............alaaaa...itu cuma harapan  tapi nak gak macam tu ....if Allah see fits..habis tu takkan nak ambil postgrad kat PUSAT SERENTI?hmm?

taklah sampai pusat serenti....
asal ada common sense.....pd i dah cukup BERAKAL
nie sekolah jauh nunnn jauh....common sense pun fail
frustrating....

redsinner

i am in the same boat as u.
unfortunately, setakat ni lelaki i jumpe suke berfalsafah about sex and politics. 2 hot topics in malaysia.
i like epistemology itself. redefining things and definitions. malangnye jarang dpt org mcm nih.

mbhcsf

Originally posted by redsinner at 17-4-2009 18:22
i am in the same boat as u.
unfortunately, setakat ni lelaki i jumpe suke berfalsafah about sex and politics. 2 hot topics in malaysia.
i like epistemology itself. redefining things and definit ...

the most important is that that gentleman is sensible, mature enough to  handle or to even engaged you. so boring ler kalau yg 12 mins pun cakap you pun boring becoz tak der good conversation. In that conversation lies the thinking, the consistency...