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Post time 8-6-2009 04:31 PM | Show all posts |Read mode
Camna cara korang kira margin sesuatu brg..
kdg2 konfius

antara margin dan mark up harga
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Post time 8-6-2009 08:46 PM | Show all posts

Balas #1 terubok\ catat

1. mark-up... how much do u marked-up from yr cost => profit/cost

bahaya dengan mark-up ni bila ko start bagi discount kena hati2
mark-up is a percentage of cost tapi discount is percentage of selling price

eg. cost $100, mark-up 50%=$50, selling price 100+50=$150
     jual tak laku buat sale discount 40%=$150x40%=$60 => harga=$150-$60=$90 => RUGI!!!!

2. margin... how much u make from yr selling price => profit/selling price

eg. cost $100, margin 40% , selling price =  $100/(100%-40%)= $166.67
      buat sales 40%= 40%x$166.67=$66.67 => harga =$100-$66.67=$100 => breakeven

hati2 bila buat pricing and giving discount
especially bila org lain calculate price.. org lain yg bagi discount
kena streamline supaya tak rugi

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Post time 8-6-2009 11:44 PM | Show all posts

Reply #2 aarie's post

Betul tu ...

terubok,

Lebih senang kalau kita berfikir in terms of   margin ... supaya bila kita nego2 dengan customer .. kita tau berapa banyak boleh nego.. jgn sampai rugi pulak ...

cthnyer ... kalau margin 20% ... jgn bagi diskaun lebih dari 20% kepada customer ...
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Post time 9-6-2009 09:07 AM | Show all posts
Salam.
teman makin konfius ni..

kata la harga cost 16.00
selling price 18.50

so mcmmana nak calculate berapa margin & mark-up ??
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Post time 9-6-2009 01:12 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by ahtzue at 9-6-2009 09:07
Salam.
teman makin konfius ni..

kata la harga cost 16.00
selling price 18.50

so mcmmana nak calculate berapa margin & mark-up ??


1. u marked up 18.50-16.00=2.50  to yr cost equivalent to 2.50/16=15.63% mark-up to yr cost
but...
2. yr margin is only 2.50/18.50=13.51% of yr selling price

always remember you mark-up yr cost
but margin is how much u get from yr selling price...

u either decide how much u want to mark-up yr cost
or how much margin u want from yr price... pilih satu supaya tak konfius
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Post time 9-6-2009 01:39 PM | Show all posts
aku pon tak paham..
let say plak cam aku nie selalu amik sekali ganda dari kos..
cth kos baju rm5..aku jual rm 10..
adakah margin aku..5/10=50%??
then mark up aku hanyan 100% la kan
takleh la buat less 70% kan..hmm..camne pasaraya tu bole wat sales
sampai 70% ekk..margin die tinggi ker and barang die memang giler2 nyer murah..
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Post time 9-6-2009 01:58 PM | Show all posts

Balas #6 boe\ catat

banyak sebab mengapa pasaraya bleh bagi diskaun sampai 70%
mungkin retail expert bleh kupas lebih panjang lebar nnt

scenario mudah:
beli 100 biji @ $50 each => cost= $5000
margin 50% => selling price = $100
sold 80 @ 100 = $8000
sold 20 @ 70%discount= 20x100x(1-0.7)=$600

total return=$8600... still profitable sebab dorang jual in volume
after breakeven point the remaining quantity are all profit...
dlm contoh diatas breakeven point dia hanya 50 unit
lepas itu whatever price dorang jual are pure gross profit...
even 90% discount pun still profitable.

ada banyak sebab2 lain lagi tapi biarlah otai2 retail pulak cerita...
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Post time 9-6-2009 02:23 PM | Show all posts
menarik..menarik..
tqvm..for info and ilmu..
kita yang nega kecik2 pon kena gaya bole guna cara ni kan..
byk lagi kena belajar
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Post time 9-6-2009 11:11 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by boe at 9-6-2009 13:39
aku pon tak paham..
let say plak cam aku nie selalu amik sekali ganda dari kos..
cth kos baju rm5..aku jual rm 10..
adakah margin aku..5/10=50%??
then mark up aku hanyan 100% la kan
takleh l ...


Sama ada margin diorg memang tinggi .. ataupun memang diorg jual rugi sikit sebab nak elak rugi besar ... Bisnes ni tak selalunya untung .. ada pasang surutnya

Satu lagi taktik pasaraya .. barang2 penting mcm beras/gula/susu memang diorg ambil margin kecil sgt .. tapi barang2 lain margin mcm biasa ..
teorinya .. org datang pasaraya biasanya tak beli beras jer .. diorg beli benda2 lain jugak ....
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Post time 10-6-2009 09:25 AM | Show all posts

Reply #9 thedude's post

hmm..ok..maknanya die rugi kat gula contohnya..tapi untung kat sabun basuh..ye tak?
bijak..bijak..well..ade tak anyone boleh share taktik2 promosi sebegini untuk peniaga kecil-kecilan..
seperti jual baju2..kain..mungkin kuih muih..dan ape2 aje yang melibatkan peruncitan..
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Post time 10-6-2009 09:51 AM | Show all posts
aarie, i guess you need to kupas pasal breakeven, so they can see why setting target is very important! especially those yg ambik retail on consignment. kadang2 sebab tak buat the calculation la at the end ramai yg rugi dalam tak sedar...
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Post time 10-6-2009 10:50 AM | Show all posts

Balas #11 hazel23\ catat

i tak berani nak advise banyak2 retail bzness ni since i hv no hands-on  experience
bagusnya otai2 yg banyak pengalaman tu bagi sikit tunjuk ajar kat kita semua....
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Post time 10-6-2009 03:26 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by boe at 10-6-2009 09:25
hmm..ok..maknanya die rugi kat gula contohnya..tapi untung kat sabun basuh..ye tak?
bijak..bijak..well..ade tak anyone boleh share taktik2 promosi sebegini untuk peniaga kecil-kecilan..
seperti ...


Lebih kurang gitu teorinya .. tapi contoh kurang tepat ... gula dan sabun basuh takde kaitan ..

Contohnya .. katakanlah sekarang musim raya ... Tesco jual gula pasir dan tepung ...
Mungkin Tesco ambil untung ciput je kat gula .. pastu buat iklan besar2 ("Gula kami paling murah dalam doniaaa!!" ) ... tapi margin tepung mcm biasa ...
Bila org nak buat kuih raya .. bila beli gula .. diorang beli tepung sekali ...
gitulah lebih kurang

[ Last edited by  thedude at 10-6-2009 15:27 ]
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Post time 10-6-2009 04:56 PM | Show all posts

Reply #13 thedude's post

a.ah laa..itu la stategi yang sebenar kan..emm..let say jual tudung and kerongsang..or tudung and kain..wat satu margin kecik...then bio due2 laku..servis keta pon bole gak nie..

let say..tukar minyaak itam..minyak jual murah margin 25% oil filter 30%..
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Post time 11-6-2009 12:02 AM | Show all posts

Reply #14 boe's post

Betull ....
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Post time 11-6-2009 06:36 AM | Show all posts
retail is detail...

kalau kita pandai buat losing proposition, insyaAllah untung tempat lain
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Post time 11-6-2009 12:17 PM | Show all posts
so normally peniaga mark up price or amik margin??selama nie harga aku selalu murah pada org lain..
aku amik untung 30% dengan mark up harga kos..then aku rase cam ciput jer untung nyer...pasni aku nak kira pakai margin la plak..so my price will be more competitive kan..
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Post time 11-6-2009 07:57 PM | Show all posts

Balas #17 boe\ catat

kalau kira pakai margin senang nak correlate your selling price and profit
kalau margin 30% contohnya...senang nampak 30% dari harga tu is yr profit..

kalau markup 30%... correlation dengan harga jualan tu tak straight forward bleh nampak
dan kadang2 mengundang kesilapan...

harga dgn 30% margin definitely higher than 30% markup.. mmg lah  lebih menguntungkan..
nak kata lebih competitive tu very subjective laa pulak....
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Post time 11-6-2009 11:11 PM | Show all posts
in retail, we use upsell / cross sell strategy - kekadang customer beli main item cth selendang,  which tak banyak margin, tapi bila kira buat cross sale (jual brooch) tu yg dapat dpt untung.

memang dlm retail byk sangat detail, the ROI, pricing startegy, storage, POS, promotion, ect ect ect..
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Post time 12-6-2009 10:52 AM | Show all posts

Reply #19 hazel23's post

kak hazel..mane nak dapat info pasal seme tu?bole suggest buku tak?for reference..
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