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Post time 23-12-2009 12:40 AM | Show all posts |Read mode
Salam..
Saya bertanya bg pihak kawan saya
kepada yg arif..diharapkan..dpt membantu..atau sape2 je leh beri pendapat..
Dia dh bernikah dgn suaminya dlm 7 bln yg lps..
mslhnye dia ialah...lps die berkahwin..dugaan dtg satu persatu..
sebaik shj 2 hari lps bernikah,,,dia diganggu makhluk halus..dipercayai kerana badan terlalu lemah..then bende tu masuk dlm bdn dia..
slps tu dgn kereta accident..n baru2 ni..rumahnya dimasuki pencuri..
yg sedeynya..brg kemas dia habis suma dicuri termasuklah..maskahwinnya..dan bracelet hadiah perkahwinan si suami..dia sgt sedey..
of course bila dugaan2 camni, dia terpk hikmah disebaliknya..tp jauh disudut hati..dia byk berpk bkn2..contoh mcm..jodoh dia n suami dia x panjang la..dan mcm2 lg..huhu
dia bgtau saya..sewaktu die bernikah dgn suaminya..tok imam@tok kadi ..tersalah sebut nama bapa kawan saya..nama ayahnya mohd amran..tp tok kadi sebut amran saje..suami dia plak sebut mohd amran..yg jd persoalan tuk dia sampai skg..sah ke perkahwinan kawan saya ni...

saya pon tak tahu camne nk bantu dia..diharapkan kwn2 forumner dpt membantu..tQ
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Post time 23-12-2009 03:37 AM | Show all posts
harap ada ilmuwan dlm cari ni dpt jwb..aku pun berminat nak tahu jwpan..soal hukum hakam tak blh wat main2..
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Post time 23-12-2009 07:44 AM | Show all posts
dia diganggu makhluk halus


sometimes it's psychological and we're too fast to blame it on makhluk halus. suruh la dia jumpe psychiatrist ke.
and it sounds like she could use a counselor to help her get through this.
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 Author| Post time 23-12-2009 08:59 AM | Show all posts
3# kucingblue

thx...yg saya paham...kawan saya tu x penah alami bende ni...lps dia kawen je..die diganggu bende tu..die terus jd lemah smgt...n sudah beberapa kali dia meracau tgh mlm slps kejadian pertama..sian dia..siyesly die kene jupe cauncellor ke? if camtu..leh la saya nasihatkan dia..

saya alu2 kan kawan2 yg mempunyai pendapat psl ni..
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Post time 23-12-2009 09:26 AM | Show all posts
kan dah ada 2 orang saksi untuk sahkan pernikahan tu kan?
x perlu ragu2 lagi kot..perasaan ragu2 / was2 tu datang dari syaitan..
suruh dia banyakkan bezikir dan baca ayat kursi tiap2 kali lepas sembahyang..
kalau rasa diganggu jugak, suruh dia jumpa dengan pengamal perubatan islam..
sebab kita x leh nafikan yang iblis, syaitan dan jin itu ada..

wallahu'alam..
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Post time 23-12-2009 09:34 AM | Show all posts
thx...yg saya paham...kawan saya tu x penah alami bende ni...lps diakawen je..die diganggu bende tu..die terus jd lemah smgt...n sudahbeberapa kali dia meracau tgh mlm slps kejadian pertama..siandia..siyesly die kene jupe cauncellor ke? if camtu..leh la sayanasihatkan dia..
habibi165 Post at 22-12-2009 16:59


marriage is a big change in someone's life. maybe she couldn't cope with it yet.

let me tell you about me. dalam 3 taun lepas, aku beli kereta. that's my first car ever, my very own. that's the biggest purchase I've ever made. Tak pernah aku guna 4 ribu dollar skali gus. walaupon bagi orang lain tu benda biasa, bagi aku terasa cam besar sangat the change in my life because of that. suddenly I have installments to make. Suddenly terasa ade tanggungjawab yang berat. Because of that, for like a week aku rasa cam anxious sangat. My mind was preoccupied all the time. Aku susah nak concentrate. And aku rasa cam kurang bermaya. Kebanyakan orang mungkin menganggap aku overreacted. But that's just how it affected me.

In your friend's case, since aku bukan psychiatrist or psychologist, aku tak boleh la nak diagnose exactly kenapa dia rasa camtu. But maybe the professionals can help.

But meracau ni can be hallucination. Hallucination nimemacam benda boleh menyebabkannya. Even kurang tidur pon boleh jadisebab. And hallucination ni aku rasa boleh dikira masalah klinikal. So maybe she needs to see a psychiatrist.  Aku takde experience ngan dokter psychiatric. So aku tak leh nak comment lebih la pasal tu. She may need to ask her doctor if she should see a psychiatrist.

Counselor/psychotherapist ni pulak bukan doctor perubatan, they cannot prescribe medicine. But they'd listen to your problems, and guide you to solving it. Sesetengah orang jumpe counselor regularly dah mencukupi. Sesetengah orang jumpe psychiatrist jek. Sesetengah orang perlu kedua-duanya.

So pendapat aku, mintalah nasihat dari orang yang mengetahui bab agama, especially bab sah ke tak sah nikah dia. Tapi dalam ikhtiar tu jumpe sekali pakar kesihatan mental.
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Post time 23-12-2009 09:46 AM | Show all posts
baru jumpe website ni. ade cite sket pasal meracau ikut pandangan bidang perubatan.
http://www.myhealth.gov.my/myhea ... aster=1203306773058

of course that's just a short article. it may not cover all angles. Nak diagnose ade masalah mental ke tak kena jumpe pakar psychiatry sendiri. Oh one more thing. Toksah takut jumpe pakar kesihatan mental (psychiatrist or counselor). Kekadang orang rasa malu nak jumpe dorang. Takut orang kate kita gile la. But if we need help we have to get help, regardless of what others might say. And other people don't have to know about it.
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 Author| Post time 23-12-2009 11:04 AM | Show all posts
7# kucingblue

thanx for the info...

x de sapa2 yg leh bg opinion dr segi agama ke..
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Post time 23-12-2009 11:28 AM | Show all posts
SAH dari segi undang2....
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Post time 23-12-2009 11:57 AM | Show all posts
Post Last Edit by ibnur at 23-12-2009 11:58
7# kucingblue

thanx for the info...

x de sapa2 yg leh bg opinion dr segi agama ke..
habibi165 Post at 23-12-2009 11:04


tidak menyebut nama muhammad tu bukan masaalah.

semasa akad nikah tu dah ada saksi dan wali yang dengan zahirnya menyaksikan aqad berkenaan.  selain dari tu, ada pula surat dan sijil yang semua perlu tandatangan.
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 Author| Post time 23-12-2009 04:10 PM | Show all posts
ooo..mohd tu x pe la ye..kire sah la eh pernikahan diorg..mmmm...sure kwn saya lega sket...tp  agak2 nye die ade mental prob ke?
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Post time 23-12-2009 04:49 PM | Show all posts
ooo..mohd tu x pe la ye..kire sah la eh pernikahan diorg..mmmm...sure kwn saya lega sket...tp  agak2 nye die ade mental prob ke?
habibi165 Post at 23-12-2009 00:10


well, maybe was-was pasal sah ke tak nikah dia may have contributed to her state of mind right now. maybe it's one of the things that bothers her, not the only thing. Hopefully Ibnur's answer help her a little bit.

Personally, aku rasa la maybe dia ade ganguan mental sket. Bukan nak kate dia gile ke sewel ke. We're only vulnerable human beings. It happens to a lot of people. If treated it may go away faster than if left untreated.

Itu cuma aku punya instinct jek la. It may not be true. Hanya pakar jek yang layak diagnose sama ada dia ade mental issues or not.

And as a friend, it's very important for you to be supportive. What you've done, coming here looking for help for her is indeed supportive. Also, persuade her to seek professional help. I'd be honest with you. I was pretty depressed a few months back. If not for my close friend who consistently persuaded me to see a counselor, I wouldn't have done it, and I may not feel this good today.
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Post time 23-12-2009 05:58 PM | Show all posts
Post Last Edit by ibnur at 23-12-2009 18:03

Post Last Edit by ibnur at 23-12-2009 18:02

ooo..mohd tu x pe la ye..kire sah la eh pernikahan diorg..mmmm...sure kwn saya lega sket...tp  agak2 nye die ade mental prob ke?
habibi165 Post at 23-12-2009 16:10


mental problem?  Aku kenal pun tidak dengan dia, mana aku nak tau.  lagi, kalau jumpa pun, aku ni bukan ahli saikoloji.  jadi tu kau kena tanya orang yang ahli ler.
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Post time 23-12-2009 09:48 PM | Show all posts
senang je..

kalo kawan ko dikacau jin.. pegi jumpa ustaz utk pulihkan.. dan amalkan la ayat2 3 qul dan Kursi..

kalo kwn ko ragu2 dgn aqad nikah dia.. cek semula dgn tok kadi.. baca balik syarat2 sah aqad nikah.. yakni ade wali, saksi, aqad, mas kahwin.. kalo saksi2 dah kata ok, ok la tu..

utk kawan ko kaitkan bala bencana yg die terima dgn aqad nikah tu.. tu sume tahyul dan tak munasabah.. kita kene letakkan sepenuh kepercayaan atas kuasa Allah taala.. segala yg berlaku tu mungkin kebetulan je.. atas niat baik dia berkahwin kerana Allah taala aje dah cukup.. syaitan mmg suka mengganggu supaya masjid yg dibina atas nama Allah tu runtuh..
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Post time 23-12-2009 09:54 PM | Show all posts
utk kawan ko kaitkan bala bencana yg die terima dgn aqad nikah tu.. tu sume tahyul dan tak munasabah.. kita kene letakkan sepenuh kepercayaan atas kuasa Allah taala..


yes...salah satu rukun iman...percaya kepada qada' dan qadar..
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Post time 24-12-2009 01:56 PM | Show all posts
15# penyapu   betul tu, kita mesti percaya...kalau tak problem la...
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Post time 24-12-2009 02:26 PM | Show all posts
masa kahwin wali ppuan ni ada tak? kalau ada, takde masalah.. sah
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Post time 24-12-2009 02:38 PM | Show all posts
salah sebot ehh huh..
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Post time 24-12-2009 04:04 PM | Show all posts
Salam.

Sebaiknya suami isteri itu perbanyakkan amalan bersama seperti solat jemaah, perbanyakkan bacaan Al-Quran dirumah serta banyak2 lah berdoa kepada Allah mohon dijauhkan dugaan2 yg berat dan semoga perkahwinan itu mendapat berkat dan rahmat.

InsyaAllah.
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Post time 24-12-2009 07:55 PM | Show all posts
sebab baru tgk citer movie santau hari tu kan...
tetiba nak tanya, sebelum2 ni, dia x penah kene 'kacau' ke?
kalau tak pernah... mcm tetiba je pulak kan dah nikah kene kacau.

++tapi, yang penting, bende2 ni susah nak kacau kita kalau kita kuat.
bukan fizikal nya yg kuat... tapi mental n hati tu kuat.
dan banyakkan aje zikir, ko kata le ke kawan ko tuh. insya allah..
kita ingat tuhan, tuhan laaaagiii akan ingat kita
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