DID JESUS REALLY DIE FOR MY SINS WHEN I WAS A CHRISTIAN?

jfreemanns

Can someone please show me as to how Jesus has died for my sins? Thank you.

JFREEMANNS

kompia23

Reply 1# jfreemanns

Sure no problem.

Yoh 1:29  Pada keesokan harinya Yohanes melihat Yesus datang kepadanya dan ia berkata: "Lihatlah Anak domba Allah, yang menghapus dosa dunia.

Matius 9:6  Tetapi supaya kamu tahu, bahwa di dunia ini Anak Manusia berkuasa mengampuni dosa" —lalu berkatalah Ia kepada orang lumpuh itu—:"Bangunlah, angkatlah tempat tidurmu dan pulanglah ke rumahmu!"   

Matius 26:28  Sebab inilah darah-Ku, darah perjanjian, yang ditumpahkan bagi banyak orang untuk pengampunan dosa.

Kisah 13:39  Dan di dalam Dialah setiap orang yang percaya memperoleh pembebasan dari segala dosa, yang tidak dapat kamu peroleh dari hukum Musa.

Got a lot more, you want??

Regards

erusi

Reply 2# kompia23


   

Reply 1# jfreemanns

Sure no problem.

Yoh 1:29 Pada keesokan harinya Yohanes melihat Yesus datang kepadanya dan ia berkata: "Lihatlah Anak domba Allah, yang menghapus dosa dunia.

Matius 9:6 Tetapi supaya kamu tahu, bahwa di dunia ini Anak Manusia berkuasa mengampuni dosa" —lalu berkatalah Ia kepada orang lumpuh itu—:"Bangunlah, angkatlah tempat tidurmu dan pulanglah ke rumahmu!"

Matius 26:28 Sebab inilah darah-Ku, darah perjanjian, yang ditumpahkan bagi banyak orang untuk pengampunan dosa.

Kisah 13:39 Dan di dalam Dialah setiap orang yang percaya memperoleh pembebasan dari segala dosa, yang tidak dapat kamu peroleh dari hukum Musa.

Got a lot more, you want??

Apakah benar Yoh 1:29 itu adalah masih menyamai tulisan Yohanes yang asal yang ditulis sendiri oleh Yohanes? Tiada kepastian sebab kesalahan telah wujud dalam bible itu.

Apakah benar Matius 9:6 itu adalah masih menyamai tulisan Matius yang asal yang ditulis sendiri oleh Matius? Tiada kepastian.

Begitu juga dengan ayat-ayat yang lain, apakah ayat tersebut masih menyamai tulisan asal yang ditulis sendiri oleh penulis asalnya? Semuanya tiada kepastian.

Justeru buktikan terlebih dahulu bahawa ayat-ayat tersebut masih asli, masih tulen dan masih sahih jika mahu mengemukakan ayat tersebut sebagai bukti. Ayat-ayat yang bersifat kabur, tidak pasti tidak layak digunakan sebagai ayat bukti.

Selagi tiada dapat dibuktikan bible itu bersih daripada sebarang kesalahan maka ayat-ayatnya adalah bersifat kabur dan tiada kepastian. Justeru status berkenaan tidak dapat digunakan sebagai ayat bukti, kerana kelak ayat-ayat bukti tersebut hanyalah bersifat kabur dan tiada kepastian.

Ayat bukti harus bersifat pasti.

sonny~~

Can someone please show me as to how Jesus has died for my sins? Thank you.

JFREEMANNS
jfreemanns Post at 8-10-2010 18:16

    by dying on the cross man.  

jfreemanns

by dying on the cross man.
sonny~~ Post at 25-12-2010 21:55

When I was a Christian....I seriously doubted that Jesus would dies for my sins. How could he when I was non-existant then?

JFREEMANNS

kompia23

When I was a Christian....I seriously doubted that Jesus would dies for my sins. How could he when I was non-existent then?

Simple, because he knew you will be in existence and will sin as any other men. This is clearly written in Roman 5:8; But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.

The blood that Jesus shed on the cross has power to redeem sins for u and me.

Regards

sonny~~

Simple, because he knew you will be in existence and will sin as any other men. This is clearly written in Roman 5:8; But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.

The blood that Jesus shed on the cross has power to redeem sins for u and me.

kompia23 Post at 9-2-2011 06:57

concur 101%.   butt . . . . .

me disagree with god christ died for us, it's man christ who died for us.  if god died for our sin, then he's no longer almighty.  

DavidW

Jesus died physically, not spiritually. He is still almighty. He is able to die physically because he took the form of a man. If he cannot die physically, then there is no point coming in the form of a man in the first place.

If you say that God cannot come in the form of a man, then god is not almighty and somehow restricted by your concept of Him which is a ridiculous notion.

From my interactions with jfreemann, I can tell that he cannot be an ex-Christian. He may have stepped into a church or even joined some church events but never lived a Christian faith fully. Otherwise, he would have at least picked up basic Christian doctrines and culture which he didn't. From the way he wrote, he is ignorant pretending to be smart. There are many Muslims like that on the net.

sonny~~

Jesus died physically, not spiritually. He is still almighty. He is able to die physically because he took the form of a man. If he cannot die physically, then there is no point coming in the form of a man in the first place.

at loooong last you've found the courage to try keep trinity erect.  

a trinitarian said jesus = god.  wiki said jesus cum god the son cum god the father cum god the holy spirit have exactly the same nature or being as God the Father in every way.  

now you said jesus died physically not spiritually.  inother words jesus cum god the son cum god the father cum god the holy spirit DIED PHYSICALLY NOT SPIRITUALLY.  right?  jesus cum god the son cum god father cum god the holy spirit as you said - is (not ARE) able to die physically coz he took the form of a man right?  dont that sound idiotic?  and more idiotic is your subsequent statement - there's no point (jesus cum god the son cum god the father cum god the holy spirit) coming in the form of a man in the the first place.  am i seeing stars, donkeys or should i say alice in wonderland?  hehe  

WHERE IN THE BIBLE THAT SAYS ALMIGHTY GOD GOTTA GO DOWN TO EARTH AS MAN JESUS TO SAVE MANKIND?  AND WHY NEED HE DO THAT?  WELL?  intelligent response plz, no insistent heckling that me SONNY A MUSLIM.  

If you say that God cannot come in the form of a man, then god is not almighty and somehow restricted by your concept of Him which is a ridiculous notion.

indeed ALMIGHTY GOD CAN COME IN THE FORM OF MAN EVEN AS MIGHTY MOUSE TO SAVE MANKIND.  BUTT ITS GONNA BE WASTE OF MANPOWER.  HE NEEDNT CREATE PROPHETS IF HE DONT WANNA USE THEM TO SAVE MANKIND.  right?

this is not cartoon world man.  its very very very real world where we gonna end up in heaven or hell if we worship zeus kind of god.  thank the good lord jesus died young, and that hes a virgin.  if he's married, trinitarians and binitarians would have insurmountable task wriggling their way to justify jesus cum god the son cum god the father cum god the holy spirit's children accordingly with their "blasphemous" belief.

From my interactions with jfreemann, I can tell that he cannot be an ex-Christian. He may have stepped into a church or even joined some church events but never lived a Christian faith fully. Otherwise, he would have at least picked up basic Christian doctrines and culture which he didn't. From the way he wrote, he is ignorant pretending to be smart. There are many Muslims like that on the net.
DavidW Post at 10-2-2011 10:37

who cares if mr FREEMAN an ex christian or ex pagan for that matter, its you yourself who need to be saved from treating poor jesus as ALMIGHTY GOD WHO GOTTA BE FLOGGED BY HIS (ALMIGHTY GOD) CREATION ROMANS AND MURDERDED BY HIS CREATION JEWS.  burrpppp.

read the bible dilligently dude.  god gives man grey matter to think and not follow blindly  

sonny~~

err should i come up with tons of biblical quotes to show off my scholarly self, to imply me indeed a learned unitarian christian or alleged muslim or pagan?  hee haw hee hee haw haw  

DavidW

Reply 10# sonny~~

at loooong last you've found the courage to try keep trinity erect.  

Does Allah keep Muhamad erect all the time in heaven to screw non stop?

a trinitarian said jesus = god.  wiki said jesus cum god the son cum god the father cum god the holy spirit have exactly the same nature or being as God the Father in every way.  

Can you show us your source please. Can back up your claims?  

now you said jesus died physically not spiritually.  inother words jesus cum god the son cum god the father cum god the holy spirit DIED PHYSICALLY NOT SPIRITUALLY.  right?  jesus cum god the son cum god father cum god the holy spirit as you said - is (not ARE) able to die physically coz he took the form of a man right?  dont that sound idiotic?  and more idiotic is your subsequent statement - there's no point (jesus cum god the son cum god the father cum god the holy spirit) coming in the form of a man in the the first place.  am i seeing stars, donkeys or should i say alice in wonderland?  hehe  

Did God the Father and the Holy spirit come as man too? Please show us.

WHERE IN THE BIBLE THAT SAYS ALMIGHTY GOD GOTTA GO DOWN TO EARTH AS MAN JESUS TO SAVE MANKIND?  AND WHY NEED HE DO THAT?  WELL?  intelligent response plz, no insistent heckling that me SONNY A MUSLIM.  

But you don't believe authority in the Bible in the first place, why ask.
You can only ask for such proofs if you profess your belief in the Bible as authority.

If you say that God cannot come in the form of a man, then god is not almighty and somehow restricted by your concept of Him which is a ridiculous notion.

indeed ALMIGHTY GOD CAN COME IN THE FORM OF MAN EVEN AS MIGHTY MOUSE TO SAVE MANKIND.  BUTT ITS GONNA BE WASTE OF MANPOWER.  HE NEEDNT CREATE PROPHETS IF HE DONT WANNA USE THEM TO SAVE MANKIND.  right?

Prophets can't die for mankind because they are not sinless like Jesus. If they could, God wouldn't have to do it.

this is not cartoon world man.  its very very very real world where we gonna end up in heaven or hell if we worship zeus kind of god.  thank the good lord jesus died young, and that hes a virgin.  if he's married, trinitarians and binitarians would have insurmountable task wriggling their way to justify jesus cum god the son cum god the father cum god the holy spirit's children accordingly with their "blasphemous" belief.

So Muhamad died in his 50s and had more than a dozen wives and had unlimited sex with slave girls and women.
How does Islam measure up?

who cares if mr FREEMAN an ex christian or ex pagan for that matter, its you yourself who need to be saved from treating poor jesus as ALMIGHTY GOD WHO GOTTA BE FLOGGED BY HIS (ALMIGHTY GOD) CREATION ROMANS AND MURDERDED BY HIS CREATION JEWS.  burrpppp.

Sure you don't because you are a dishonest Muslim yourself.
I care because his lies need to be exposed. why does he need to pretend he was a Christian at all if Islam is such a great religion and the Islamic position is strong?

read the bible dilligently dude.  god gives man grey matter to think and not follow blindly  
   

You are absolutely correct but unfortunately, you are not thinking and reasoning logically.

jfreemanns

SO I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW FROM KOMPIA OR DAVID AS TO WHETHER I WOULD BE SINLESS FROM BIRTH TO THIS DAY IF I HAD REMAINED A CHRISTIAN AS YOU SWEET TALKING GUYS ARE SO ABSOLUTELY SURE A 100% THAT JESUS HAD ALREADY DIED IN THE PAST FOR MY SINS?

JFREEMANNS

sonny~~

Does Allah keep Muhamad erect all the time in heaven to screw non stop?

dunno.  dare you create a threaD on your question?  chicken?

Can you show us your source please. Can back up your claims?

here you are, its your source -  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity
   

Did God the Father and the Holy spirit come as man too? Please show us.

wiki (YOUR SOURCE) said - God exists as three persons but is one God, meaning that God the Son and God the Holy Spirit have exactly the same nature or being as God the Father in every way.[3] Whatever attributes and power God the Father has, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit have as well.[3] "Thus, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit are also eternal, omnipresent, omnipotent, infinitely wise, infinitely holy, infinitely loving, omniscient."  

hence when YOU SAID - jesus died physically not spiritually - dont that mean jesus cum god the son cum god the father cum god the holy spirit died as well physically not spiritually?  since as YOU SAID - jesus able to die physically coz he took the form of man, dont god the son cum god the father cum god the holy spirit being JESUS, able to die physically too?  you disagree?  WHY?  INTELLECTUAL CLARIFICATION WITHOUT HECKLING PLZ.

But you don't believe authority in the Bible in the first place, why ask.
You can only ask for such proofs if you profess your belief in the Bible as authority.

ME SONNY PROFESS ME BELIEF IN THE BIBLE AS AUTHORITY.  ME BELIEVE AUTHORITY IN THE BIBLE WHICH SAID JESUS IS NO GOD.  happy?

hence me question - WHERE IN BIBLE THAT SAYS ALMIGHTY GOD GOTTA GO DOWN TO EARTH AS MAN JESUS TO SAVE MANKIND?  AND WHY NEED HE DO THAT?  WELL?  intelligent response plz, no insistent heckling me SONNY A MUSLIM.

Prophets can't die for mankind because they are not sinless like Jesus. If they could, God wouldn't have to do it.

simple commonsense gonna tell you they did die for mankind since they've carried almighty gods work till their last breath.  mark you they dont carry out jesus teaching per se but whats written in torah.  hence almighty god NEEDNT CREATE PROPHETS IF HE DONT WANNA USE THEM TO SAVE MANKIND.  RIGHT?

So Muhamad died in his 50s and had more than a dozen wives and had unlimited sex with slave girls and women.
How does Islam measure up?

dunno.  dare you create a threaD on this?  chicken?

Sure you don't because you are a dishonest Muslim yourself.

so what if SONNY DISHONEST MUSLIM?  that dont help you keep trinity erect.  right?  anyhow awaiting your intellectual reponse to me HARDquestions.

I care because his lies need to be exposed. why does he need to pretend he was a Christian at all if Islam is such a great religion and the Islamic position is strong?

how do you know he lied?  your hysterical self is showING sir mr DEBMEY.  you cant response intellectually so you resort to heckling.  as expected dude.

You are absolutely correct but unfortunately, you are not thinking and reasoning logically.
DavidW Post at 10-2-2011 15:13

on the other hand if you're able to think and reason logically, respond intelligently to me HARDquestions.  no heckling.  no repetitive one line statement.  

DavidW

SO I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW FROM KOMPIA OR DAVID AS TO WHETHER I WOULD BE SINLESS FROM BIRTH TO THIS DAY IF I HAD REMAINED A CHRISTIAN AS YOU SWEET TALKING GUYS ARE SO ABSOLUTELY SURE A 100% THAT JESUS HAD ALREADY DIED IN THE PAST FOR MY SINS?
jfreemanns Post at 10-2-2011 16:19

You are not sinless just because you are a Christian. How can an ex-Christian not know that? That is another giveaway that you were never a Christian at all.

DavidW

Reply 13# sonny~~


   

wiki (YOUR SOURCE) said - God exists as three persons but is one God, meaning that God the Son and God the Holy Spirit have exactly the same nature or being as God the Father in every way.[3] Whatever attributes and power God the Father has, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit have as well.[3] "Thus, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit are also eternal, omnipresent, omnipotent, infinitely wise, infinitely holy, infinitely loving, omniscient."  

Where in the source you quoted did it say all three have exact the same nature?
You simply extrapolated what you read sonny. So the problem actually lies in your wrong understanding, not Christianity. In other words, you created a strawman attack and made yourself look very silly.

ME SONNY PROFESS ME BELIEF IN THE BIBLE AS AUTHORITY.  ME BELIEVE AUTHORITY IN THE BIBLE WHICH SAID JESUS IS NO GOD.  happy?

No sonny. The Bible never said that. You are a liar.

simple commonsense gonna tell you they did die for mankind since they've carried almighty gods work till their last breath.  mark you they dont carry out jesus teaching per se but whats written in torah.  hence almighty god NEEDNT CREATE PROPHETS IF HE DONT WANNA USE THEM TO SAVE MANKIND.  RIGHT?

Simple common sense you said? If you exercised common sense, you wouldn't be a Muslim. You can't even read for Allah's sake. Where in the Bible did it said the prophets of old died for mankind? Chapter and verse please.

so what if SONNY DISHONEST MUSLIM?  that dont help you keep trinity erect.  right?  anyhow awaiting your intellectual reponse to me HARDquestions.

Then you are a good Muslim indeed because your Allah claims to be the best deceiver. And Allah keeps deceiving you and get you all confused and dishonest.

how do you know he lied?  your hysterical self is showING sir mr DEBMEY.  you cant response intellectually so you resort to heckling.  as expected dude.

Why not? jfreemann don't even know basic Christian doctrines.

on the other hand if you're able to think and reason logically, respond intelligently to me HARDquestions.  no heckling.  no repetitive one line statement.

I took them right on and all you can do is heckle. You can't logic and reason, just read your own arguments.

sonny~~

Where in the source you quoted did it say all three have exact the same nature?
You simply extrapolated what you read sonny. So the problem actually lies in your wrong understanding, not Christianity. In other words, you created a strawman attack and made yourself look very silly.

o?  is my interpretation wrong?  so what's yours?  i'm waiting   

wiki (YOUR SOURCE) said - God exists as three persons but is one God, meaning that God the Son and God the Holy Spirit have exactly the same nature or being as God the Father in every way.[3] Whatever attributes and power God the Father has, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit have as well.[3] "Thus, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit are also eternal, omnipresent, omnipotent, infinitely wise, infinitely holy, infinitely loving, omniscient."  

ME SONNY PROFESS ME BELIEF IN THE BIBLE AS AUTHORITY.  ME BELIEVE AUTHORITY IN THE BIBLE WHICH SAID JESUS IS NO GOD.  happy?

No sonny. The Bible never said that. You are a liar.

indeed the bible didnt say JESUS IS NO GOD per se neither did it say JESUS IS GOD per se, right?  so you're a liar as well right?

simple commonsense gonna tell you they did die for mankind since they've carried almighty gods work till their last breath.  mark you they dont carry out jesus teaching per se but whats written in torah.  hence almighty god NEEDNT CREATE PROPHETS IF HE DONT WANNA USE THEM TO SAVE MANKIND.  RIGHT?

Simple common sense you said? If you exercised common sense, you wouldn't be a Muslim. You can't even read for Allah's sake. Where in the Bible did it said the prophets of old died for mankind? Chapter and verse please.

if prophets dont die for mankind, what are they for?  well?

so what if SONNY DISHONEST MUSLIM?  that dont help you keep trinity erect.  right?  anyhow awaiting your intellectual reponse to me HARDquestions.

Then you are a good Muslim indeed because your Allah claims to be the best deceiver. And Allah keeps deceiving you and get you all confused and dishonest.

first ME DISHONEST MUSLIM THEN GOOD MUSLIM.  make up your mind dude.  and you're sore loser trinitarian for not able to explain 3 gods in 1 god trinity belief intelligently and without heckling.  me HARDquestions stands - WHERE IN BIBLE THAT SAYS ALMIGHTY GOD GOTTA GO DOWN TO EARTH AS MAN JESUS TO SAVE MANKIND?  AND WHY NEED HE DO THAT?  WELL?   

how do you know he lied?  your hysterical self is showING sir mr DEBMEY.  you cant response intellectually so you resort to heckling.  as expected dude

Why not? jfreemann don't even know basic Christian doctrines.

so what?  it shouldnt retard you to explain what 3 gods in 1 god trinity is about.  right?

on the other hand if you're able to think and reason logically, respond intelligently to me HARDquestions.  no heckling.  no repetitive one line statement.

I took them right on and all you can do is heckle. You can't logic and reason, just read your own arguments.
DavidW Post at 10-2-2011 18:46

me no heckle, its you who heckle for at the end of the day you have yet to explain with HARDfacts me HARDquestions - WHERE IN BIBLE THAT SAYS ALMIGHTY GOD GOTTA GO DOWN TO EARTH AS MAN JESUS TO SAVE MANKIND?  AND WHY NEED HE DO THAT?  WELL?  

sonny~~

Reply 8# DavidW
   

Jesus died physically, not spiritually. He is still almighty. He is able to die physically because he took the form of a man. If he cannot die physically, then there is no point coming in the form of a man in the first place.

If you say that God cannot come in the form of a man, then god is not almighty and somehow restricted by your concept of Him which is a ridiculous notion.

lemme dissect your masterpiece again.  you said - jesus is still ALMIGHTY.  inother words you believe jesus is ALMIGHTY GOD.  you've said - ALMIGHTY GOD jesus is able to die physically coz he took man form.  if he, youve said - dont die physically, then theres no point coming in man form in first place.  cool.

now lets see ROMANS 5:8 - But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.

it looks straightforward - concise, precise.  BUTT . . . .  if you treat christ as ALMIGHTY GOD you gonna have this -  But God (jesus CUM GOD THE SON CUM GOD THE FATHER CUM GOD THE HOLY SPRITI) demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ (jesus CUM GOD THE SON CUM GOD THE FATHER CUM GOD THE HOLY SPIRIT) died for us.  looks redundant right?  seemingly suffering from split personality disorder right?  like soap opera?

intelligent explanation then for your post mr DAVID  

sonny~~

if ALMIGHTY GOD CUM JESUS CUM HOLY SPIRIT being flogged and hang to dry for us, who's taking care of the universe?  

DavidW

Reply 16# sonny~~

o?  is my interpretation wrong?  so what's yours?  i'm waiting   

wiki (YOUR SOURCE) said - God exists as three persons but is one God, meaning that God the Son and God the Holy Spirit have exactly the same nature or being as God the Father in every way.[3] Whatever attributes and power God the Father has, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit have as well.[3] "Thus, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit are also eternal, omnipresent, omnipotent, infinitely wise, infinitely holy, infinitely loving, omniscient."  

Did the above said same body?

indeed the bible didnt say JESUS IS NO GOD per se neither did it say JESUS IS GOD per se, right?  so you're a liar as well right?

Oh yes it does, in so many different ways.
The problem is, you have never read the Bible before.

if prophets dont die for mankind, what are they for?  well?

I asked you for scriptural authority for your wild claim. You mean you can't back up your claim that prophets die for mankind?

first ME DISHONEST MUSLIM THEN GOOD MUSLIM.  make up your mind dude.  and you're sore loser trinitarian for not able to explain 3 gods in 1 god trinity belief intelligently and without heckling.  me HARDquestions stands - WHERE IN BIBLE THAT SAYS ALMIGHTY GOD GOTTA GO DOWN TO EARTH AS MAN JESUS TO SAVE MANKIND?  AND WHY NEED HE DO THAT?  WELL?   

how do you know he lied?  your hysterical self is showING sir mr DEBMEY.  you cant response intellectually so you resort to heckling.  as expected dude

Didn't your Allah say he is the best deceiver?
So not only do you not know Christianity or the Bible, you have shown you also don't know your Allah!
So what are you doing here debating with Christian?

so what?  it shouldnt retard you to explain what 3 gods in 1 god trinity is about.  right?

I already did, its in the wiki link I provided. The Trinity concept is so easy to search and understand. The problem is, you did not read at all.

on the other hand if you're able to think and reason logically, respond intelligently to me HARDquestions.  no heckling.  no repetitive one line statement.

You heckle and gave one liners all over your posts. What are you talking about sonny?

me no heckle, its you who heckle for at the end of the day you have yet to explain with HARDfacts me HARDquestions - WHERE IN BIBLE THAT SAYS ALMIGHTY GOD GOTTA GO DOWN TO EARTH AS MAN JESUS TO SAVE MANKIND?  AND WHY NEED HE DO THAT?  WELL?  
   

You don't even believe in the Bible. Why the heck do you ask for Bible references? Aren't you silly sonny?

sonny~~

wiki (YOUR SOURCE) said - God exists as three persons but is one God, meaning that God the Son and God the Holy Spirit have exactly the same nature or being as God the Father in every way.[3] Whatever attributes and power God the Father has, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit have as well.[3] "Thus, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit are also eternal, omnipresent, omnipotent, infinitely wise, infinitely holy, infinitely loving, omniscient."  

Did the above said same body?

whats your interpretation of EXACTLY SAME NATURE OR BEING?

indeed the bible didnt say JESUS IS NO GOD per se neither did it say JESUS IS GOD per se, right?  so you're a liar as well right?

Oh yes it does, in so many different ways.
The problem is, you have never read the Bible before.

where in the bible that say in SO MANY DIFFERENT WAYS THAT JESUS IS GOD?  where?

if prophets dont die for mankind, what are they for?  well?

I asked you for scriptural authority for your wild claim. You mean you can't back up your claim that prophets die for mankind?

whats the difference between me saying SIMPLE COMMONSENSE and you asking for SCRIPTURAL AUTHORITY?

how do you know he lied?  your hysterical self is showING sir mr DEBMEY.  you cant response intellectually so you resort to heckling.  as expected dude

Didn't your Allah say he is the best deceiver?

dunno.  dare you create a thread?  chicken?

So not only do you not know Christianity or the Bible, you have shown you also don't know your Allah!
So what are you doing here debating with Christian?

why do you take my questions on trinity as debate?  if you think trinity is that perfect, you should explain it with pride instead of overly defensive.  is that what your 3 gods in 1 god trinity teaches you?  character err nick assassination, heckling and playing retarded?  shame on you for your narrowmindedness.

so what?  it shouldnt retard you to explain what 3 gods in 1 god trinity is about.  right?

I already did, its in the wiki link I provided. The Trinity concept is so easy to search and understand. The problem is, you did not read at all.

knock knock is your brain intact?  IF me dont read, me wouldnt know what to ask right?  if you truly understand trinity, you wouldnt treat my question as a confrontation right?

on the other hand if you're able to think and reason logically, respond intelligently to me HARDquestions.  no heckling.  no repetitive one line statement.

You heckle and gave one liners all over your posts. What are you talking about sonny?

should me questions be lengthy?  short and precise would be easier for you to tackle right?  butt me dont expect one line explanation on trinity from you right?

You don't even believe in the Bible. Why the heck do you ask for Bible references? Aren't you silly sonny?
DavidW Post at 10-2-2011 23:20

is that how you wanna run away from explaining trinity by accusing me of not believing in bible?  thats heckling or are you playing retarded?

ME HARDquestion stays - WHERE IN BIBLE THAT SAYS ALMIGHTY GOD GOTTA DOWN TO EARTH AS MAN JESUS TO SAVE MANKIND?  AND WHY NEED HE DO THAT?  WELL?