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Swear infront of an object but muslims always deny

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Post time 2-5-2013 10:24 PM | Show all posts |Read mode
As far as Bible concern , we not allowed to  swear in name of God or even worst swearing infront of an object...

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
But above all things, my brethren, swear not, neither by heaven, neither by the earth, neither by any other oath: but let your yea be yea; and your nay, nay; lest ye fall into condemnation.James 5:12

....but muslims will swear in front of an object or even swear for everything....

if Muslims says the Kaba is nothing but a direction....my killer question(soalan maut):

why need to swear infront of an object to clear an individual name????

by swearing in front of an object , does it make that obejct can accept your words is true and that object is more powerful????
using name of  allah  but  still swearing  infront of an object  .....which I personally found is   wrong..

Muslims will says this and that yet if one look at the recent video ...muslims taken away with that object and  touching it...
of course our muslims will says" hey this not religion but political....so  islam is political??
too many question that puzzle yet muslims cannot answer

here is the video:






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Post time 2-5-2013 11:33 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
."Why need to swear infront of an object to clear an individual name????"

Jawapan mudah....hanyalah sbg SIMBOLIK sahaja..tak wajib pun.Kalau taknak bersumpah pegang al-quran pun boleh.Yang wajib kena sebut nama Allah masa bersumpah tu.

Saya tak mahu jawab dengan penerangan pjg lebar nanti dikata muslims will say this and that,in denial and etc..sama juga seperti kristian pakai rantai salib sebagai simbolik,hanya sebagai lambang yang kamu beragama kristian.

Ok,puas tak?kalau tidak saya tunggu saudara2 saya yang lain menghuraikan dengan panjang lebarrr lagi.Ini bukan isu besar yang boleh menjejaskan kepercayaan agama lain...so,just chillll

P/s;jangan lupa mengundi ya truth..selamat mengundi on 5th may
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ari selasa depan la aku reply.besok nak balik kampong..........................
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Post time 2-5-2013 11:43 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
cmf_BeachBoys posted on 2-5-2013 11:41 PM
ari selasa depan la aku reply.besok nak balik kampong..........................

selamat mengundi bro..
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Post time 2-5-2013 11:51 PM | Show all posts
As far as Bible concern , we not allowed to  swear in name of God or even worst swearing infront of an object...

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
But above all things, my brethren, swear not, neither by heaven, neither by the earth, neither by any other oath: but let your yea be yea; and your nay, nay; lest ye fall into condemnation.James 5:12

....but muslims will swear in front of an object or even swear for everything....

if Muslims says the Kaba is nothing but a direction....(1)my killer question(soalan maut):

(2)why need to swear infront of an object to clear an individual name????

by swearing in front of an object , does it make that obejct can accept your words is true and that object is more powerful????
using name of  allah  but  still using an object to swear infront of an object  .....which I personally found is   wrong..

(3)Muslims will says this and that yet if one look at the recent video ...muslims taken away with that object and  touching it...
of course our muslims will says" hey this not religion but political....so  islam is political??
too many question that puzzle yet muslims cannot answer

here is the video:
(1) Killer question la sangat.aku tak rasa apa-apa pun

(2)Islam mengajar umatnya bersumpah dengan nama Allah...Objek tidak membawa sebarang makna.berbanding orang kristian yang menyembah Nabi isa dengan membuat patung Nabi isa dan diletakkan di dalam gereja untuk disembah seperti yang diamalkan oleh tamadun yunani dan rom.Mereka juga menjadikan salib sebagai lambang agama mereka dan menggantung salib itu dibatang leher mereka seolah-olah salib itu adalah suatu objek yang suci.

(3) Islam adalah agama Fitrah.Dan politik itu adalah sebahagian dari islam.Malah di dalam Islam juga terkandung sistem perundangan,sistem muamalat (jual-beli),sistem takaful (Insuran),Sistem ekonomi,Sistem ketenteraan,Sistem pendidikan dan lain-lain.

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Post time 3-5-2013 12:00 AM | Show all posts
pedang22 posted on 2-5-2013 11:43 PM
selamat mengundi bro..

beyeh........sebagai seorang rakyat yang berketurunan semenanjung,menjadi tanggungjawab diri untuk memastikan hanya yang benar-benar layak diberi amanah untuk mentadbir tanah semenanjung dan sekutu di borneo
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 Author| Post time 3-5-2013 12:17 AM | Show all posts
pedang22 posted on 2-5-2013 11:33 PM
."Why need to swear infront of an object to clear an individual name????"

Jawapan mudah....hanyal ...
Jawapan mudah....hanyalah sbg SIMBOLIK sahaja..tak wajib pun.Kalau taknak bersumpah pegang al-quran pun boleh.Yang wajib kena sebut nama Allah masa bersumpah tu.

hakikatnya sudah di sumpah depan objet....

kepercayaan kami  di larang sumpah2 ini...kerana  ia nya tidak elok..

Saya tak mahu jawab dengan penerangan pjg lebar nanti dikata muslims will say this and that,in denial and etc..sama juga seperti kristian pakai rantai salib sebagai simbolik,hanya sebagai lambang yang kamu beragama kristian.

tak perlu divert topic dengan rantai sallib ...


Ok,puas tak?kalau tidak saya tunggu saudara2 saya yang lain menghuraikan dengan panjang lebarrr lagi.Ini bukan isu besar yang boleh menjejaskan kepercayaan agama lain...so,just chillll

ini bukan isu samada puas atau tidak tapi pelik aku tengok agama kamu ini....nampak gaya nya islam macam politik

P/s;jangan lupa mengundi ya truth..selamat mengundi on 5th may
saya  tidak pernah undi..dan saya tidak akan undi....

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cmf_BeachBoys posted on 2-5-2013 11:51 PM
(1) Killer question la sangat.aku tak rasa apa-apa pun

(2)Islam mengajar umatnya bersumpah deng ...
(3) Islam adalah agama Fitrah.Dan politik itu adalah sebahagian dari islam.Malah di dalam Islam juga terkandung sistem perundangan,sistem muamalat (jual-beli),sistem takaful (Insuran),Sistem ekonomi,Sistem ketenteraan,Sistem pendidikan dan lain-lain.
itu dia...islam lebih dengan politik sehingga fitnah dengan fitnah dan tamak ...
faith saya tidak boleh campur aduk dengan politik...

itu lah keindahaan pada faith saya..

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Post time 3-5-2013 05:21 AM | Show all posts
...hoax
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Post time 3-5-2013 07:08 AM | Show all posts
Truth.8:
too many question that puzzle yet muslims cannot answer

The main question now is why you don't want to accept muslims' answer?



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 Author| Post time 3-5-2013 09:48 AM | Show all posts
mashimaru83 posted on 3-5-2013 07:08 AM
The main question now is why you don't want to accept muslims' answer?

how I can accept muslims answer  when some of the doings are not according to prophets and God commandments  before Muhammad?

did you read my Bible verses that anyone make swear will received condemnation ? I think anwar will be safe since he did not make any swear..

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Dzulqarnain posted on 3-5-2013 05:21 AM
...hoax

which one is hoax??


saiful says:

saya bersumpah dengan nama allah hadapan *****

why using that name?? an object???
just says allah ok lah
Last edited by Truth.8 on 3-5-2013 09:56 AM

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Post time 3-5-2013 10:01 AM | Show all posts
Truth.8 posted on 3-5-2013 09:48 AM
how I can accept muslims answer  when some of the doings are not according to prophets and God com ...

Truth.8:
....but muslims will swear in front of an object or even swear for everything....

if Muslims says the Kaba is nothing but a direction....my killer question(soalan maut):

why need to swear infront of an object to clear an individual name????
Muslims already said that Ka'ba is used for direction. Why didn't you accept the answer?



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 Author| Post time 3-5-2013 10:10 AM | Show all posts
mashimaru83 posted on 3-5-2013 10:01 AM
Muslims already said that Ka'ba is used for direction. Why didn't you accept the answer?
Muslims already said that Ka'ba is used for direction. Why didn't you accept the answer?
if that the case...why using oat to swear infront of it??? so muslims misleading themselves??  do you also watch the recent video? why peoples taken away by touching it???
something not right about your religion

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Post time 3-5-2013 11:11 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Ahli Kongres Amerika angkat sumpah jawatan depan bible..kan?aaaahhh..boleh je.Jangan pulak kamu kata mereka bukan kristian
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Post time 3-5-2013 12:29 PM | Show all posts
aiyoh.. takde pun sumpah2 depan Ka'abah ni di ajar dalam Islam. Kalau ada, jenuh lah setiap keluarga yang nak bercerai kena pergi Ka'abah dulu. (refering to sumpah lian)

Video Saiful tu pun, lebih kepada political movement and ideology instead of religion. C'mon lah, Islam mana ada ajar umat dia supaya membuka aib sendiri.

Truth.8 kena belajar bezakan antara perbincangan politik dan perbincangan agama. Sejak bila tindakan Saiful Bukhari itu mencerminkan ajaran Islam secara keseluruhan? Last edited by gunblade712 on 3-5-2013 12:34 PM

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Post time 3-5-2013 12:31 PM | Show all posts
btw sumpah di dalam mahkamah USA di lakukan dengan memegang Bible. Adakah ini ajaran di dalam BIble itu sendiri? pikir logiclah. Toksah tunjukkan kebodohan sendirii, Truth.8. Kau ni, nak tanya sbb nak tahu ke, atau nak tanya sebab nak attack Islam dengan mentaliti kau yang macam rendah tu?
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pedang22 posted on 3-5-2013 11:11 AM
Ahli Kongres Amerika angkat sumpah jawatan depan bible..kan?aaaahhh..boleh je.Jangan pulak kamu kata ...

ya ker?? ada bukti???
yg ini kena liwat ....sampai ke masjid  pegan quran sampai  kaba depan object buat sumpah..hahahah

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Post time 3-5-2013 12:37 PM | Show all posts
Truth.8 posted on 3-5-2013 12:32 PM
ya ker?? ada bukti???
yg ini kena liwat ....sampai ke masjid  pegan quran sampai  kaba depan obje ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Rep._E._Clay_Shaw_swearing_reenactment_during_108th.jpg

Buku yang dia pegang tu, Bible. Ada yang angkat sumpah guna kitab lain, tapi yang penting, USA's congressmen took their oath by holding the Bible.

What have you got to say about this proof?
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Post time 3-5-2013 12:41 PM | Show all posts
Truth.8 posted on 3-5-2013 10:10 AM
if that the case...why using oat to swear infront of it??? so muslims misleading themselves??  do  ...

Truth.8:
if that the case...why using oat to swear infront of it??? so muslims misleading themselves??  do you also watch the recent video? why peoples taken away by touching it???
something not right about your religion


I think you are misleading yourself. You are talking about a person action here and not religion. If you want to talk about religion, I'd suggest that you talk about the teaching itself and not about other people's action. Else we will end up spending day and night quoating every single action of each Christian/Muslim on earth.



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