Why a person commits suicide?

casio88

skg ada trend lakk..students yg dpt result teruk in xam commit-suicide..takot mak bapak marah..even dak UPSR yg dpt result teruk ada yg try gantung diri...pressure deep insiide..sians ehsssss

Santeira

Kalau kat Jepun, to commit Seppukku or Hara-Kiri or Kamikaze is method to redeem oneself from disgrace after failing to meet up to society's expectations or complete a task as expected. It is how they measure their honor (there is no use of living if they have lost and they are willing to pay with their lives). In a sense, it is respectable--we also had seen their Prime Minister resign after failing to play his role effectively. We don't see that kind of attitude in Malaysia, however.

Because up to this day, our society still can't separate morality with honor. Anyway, I don't think committing suicide because one can't stand the mental torture or pressure of losing someone dear, being cheated or being betrayed greatly by anybody else is honorable.

Agul

Suicide is a cry for help.
A cry for love...
A cry for hug...

Thing is, if it happens today the symptom usually have surfaced way back then...
Last year, 3 years a go..., 10 yrs ago...

it's always preventable..

They don't need preaching.
They need understanding...

pesona1

Originally posted by casio88 at 25-12-2007 11:34 PM
skg ada trend lakk..students yg dpt result teruk in xam commit-suicide..takot mak bapak marah..even dak UPSR yg dpt result teruk ada yg try gantung diri...pressure deep insiide..sians ehsssss

harapnya hari ni (hari keluar result PMR) jangan la ada yang commit suicide juz bcoz result hancusss...

mbhcsf

the most common cause is depression
and it is pertinent to note that this type of person had at some point pre planned their suicidal act. They even prepared the suicide notes stating the reason or even inadvertently expressed their intention to their friends prior to the act. to the trained, observant ears and eyes, this person would not be taken lightly.

So, if you suspect a person is having a form of emotional disorder ( affect) like depression or even those close ones yg ader schizophrenia atau suffering from psychosis, please be aware on this should they " looked"  dodgy or on the low side. maksudnya depa depress.suka nangis, isolating etc.

mbhcsf

hmm how about those sho guns act of HARA KIRI?

Mansairaku

The act of "seppuku" by right hanya applicable to those yang pernah pledged to the Code of Honor (especially in Bushido).  For some reason, this act was admired and followed by the normal people yang tak pernah pledged formally to the Code of Honor and later was more informally known as "hara-kiri".  Ninja, for example ..are not expected to commit "seppuku" coz they were never bound to the Code in the first place.

Kamikaze is a bit different, while it has something to do with "honorable death", it has nothing to do with redeeming yourself from disgrace, something similar to "suicide bombers".

but, if yang commit suicide tu budak umur 12 tahun ...little kena mengena with honor or cowardice, i think? maybe they just simply didnt know any better ...

naden

DEJECTED + REJECTED..

alasan yg mudah yg selalu diambil mudah..
sigh~

sinalegna

i think, a person commits suicide because they have no left of hope & nothing to believe in... they might also being selfish.

naden

mungkin mudah untuk memikirkan "kenapa seseorang tu nak bunuh diri?"..
mencari sebab.. mencari alasan.. mencari punca.. kenapa agaknya..?

mungkin ramai yg menyalahkan 'dia'..
'dia' yg mengharungi - tapi gagal.. & setelah gagal?
'dia' yg xingin dibantu? 'dia' yg xmahu bangun dari mimpi sedih itu?
still - cakap2 sahaja memang mudah.. sangat mudah..

berapa ramai antara kita yg sudi mendengar - tanpa menilai?
berapa ramai antara kita yg sudi memujuk - tanpa menghukum?
& berapa ramai antara kita yg sudi benar utk menerima adanya dia seadanya?

berapa ramai antara kita yg sudi meluangkan masa walaupun sehari?
berapa ramai antara kita yg sudi meluangkan ruang walaupun seinci?
berapa ramai antara kita yg sudi memberikan peluang walaupun sekali?
dengan ikhlas & belas.. tanpa ada rasa rimas atau memungkinkan ungkitan?

bayangkan..
waktu kita tengah kerja & sibuk gila - sumone called - menangis & minta ditemani
apa pilihan kita? meneruskan kerja & mengabaikan 'dia'? temani 'dia' & tinggalkan kerja?
siapa yg tahu - itu mungkin panggilan yg terakhir.. kita adalah harapannya yg terakhir..
tapi kita memilih utk mengabaikan.. menangguhkan.. menghancurkan..
next day - dpt berita sumone yg called kita tu bunuh diri & recent/lastest call kat phone dia
IALAH NOMBOR TELEFON KITA.. apa yg kita rasa? sedih? bersalah? menyesal?
well.. instead of "apa yg kita rasa?", kenapa xfikirkan "apa yg dia rasa?" masa tu..
alone & lonely.. xde sape yg sudi temankan wlpun sekejap aje.. sedih kan..
bila 'dia' hidup - kita salahkan 'dia'.. & bila 'dia' memilih utk mati - kita masih salahkan 'dia'..

now tell me.. kenapa 'dia' perlu hidup(ada) dalam dunia ni,
sedangkan dunia ni bagaikan xmahu 'dia' hidup(ada) didalamnya?
sedangkan ISI dunia ni bagaikan xmahu 'dia' hidup(ada) didalamnya?
tiada masa.. tiada ruang.. & tiada peluang.. untuk apa lagi agaknya?
sigh..

Agul

Betul...

Sangat betul...

A little random act of kindness might save someones life...


On the other hand...

Anyone here have thought about it at one point or another? Ending one's life?

Agul

dejected + rejected

Very profound.

blastoff

This video is very violent and graphic , its about the massacre that took place in the library of columbine high , the two killers in the end committed suicide , a tragic end indeed.    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFA1Fqh0MkU&feature=related     Without faith in Allah , humans can easily go out of control and behave worse than animals . There is a great lesson to be learned from this video I believe . Life on earth comes only once for each and everyone of us humans , once we lost it we will never get it back ever again , and those whose souls are blind will never be able to apreciate life as one of the most precious gift from God .  

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blastoff

Sixteen dead after high school massacre

Evening update: Two young men walked into a suburban Denver high school and opened fire yesterday

By staff and agencies
Wednesday April 21, 1999
Guardian Unlimited


Two teenagers in black trench coats laughed and hooted as they opened fire on classmates in their suburban Denver high school, killing 16 people, including themselves, in the deadliest U.S. school rampage on record. Eric Harris (18) and Dylan Klebold (17) marched into the library of Columbine High School yesterday with guns and pipe bombs, demanding that "all jocks stand up. We're going to kill every one of you," said student Aaron Cohn.

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One of them looked under a desk in the library and said "Peek-a-boo," then fired, Cohn said. Anyone who cried or moaned was shot again. One girl begged for her life, but a gunshot ended her cries.
Cohn said one killer put a pistol to his head but did not shoot him. Instead, he said, the shooter turned his attention to a black student, saying, "I hate niggers." Cohn heard three shots but couldn't see what happened.
The bodies lay crumpled in the schoolhouse where they were shot; officers delayed removing the corpses until later today because of possible booby traps.
Bombs were found in and around the school, including in two cars in the school parking lot. More than 11 hours after the shootings, a bomb on a timer blew up, but no one was injured.
At least 23 people were hospitalized, most of them with gunshot wounds. One girl suffered nine shrapnel wounds. At least nine victims were in critical or serious condition; one was in guarded condition.
The dead included students and at least one faculty member, said Superintendent Jane Hammond. Students and Denver media identified the gunmen as Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold, both juniors at the school. The two exchanged shots with police and were later found dead in the library with self-inflicted gunshot wounds and bombs around their bodies, said sheriff's spokesman Steve Davis.
"It appears to be a suicide mission," said Sheriff John Stone. While the motive was unclear, several students said Harris and Klebold were members of a group calling itself the "Trenchcoat Mafia," outcasts who bragged about guns and bombs and hated blacks and Hispanics, as well as athletes. Police who searched Harris' home said they found bomb-making material. Harris and Klebold both had juvenile records in Jefferson County District Court, according to a district court clerk - they were implicated in a 1998 criminal trespass case. Klebold received a deferred sentence.
Sixteen-year-old Matt Good told the Denver Post that during the past year Harris had started wearing all black, spoke German, and was obsessed with anything German or about the Second World War. The local sheriff noted that yesterday was Adolf Hitler's birthday.
But some neighbours described Harris and Klebold as quiet boys - one said Klebold was a gifted and talented student who also took part in a fantasy baseball league. They said the Harris family moved in about two years ago and that the boy's father, Wayne, recently retired from the military. Harris may have taken his father's guns for the massacre, they said.
Littleton, a middle-class suburb of Denver with a population of 35,000, is the latest American community shocked by school violence. Since 1997, shootings have led to calls for stricter laws, tighter security and closer monitoring of troubled students. Two people were killed in an attack at a school in Pearl, Mississippi; three in West Paducah, Kentucky; five in Jonesboro, Arkansas, and two in Springfield, Oregon.
In Washington, President Bill Clinton's reaction was muted. He said intended to wait for the facts to emerge before taking any new steps to protect children in US schools. 'You know what we put out before,' he told reporters. 'You know the efforts we've made. And I just think that tonight we need to focus on the families that lost their kids, on the children that are wounded, on the grieving of the community.'
'We do know that we must do more to reach out to our children and teach them to express their anger and to resolve their conflicts with words, not weapons. And we do know we have to do more to recognize the early warning signs that are sent before children act violently,' he added.
The two gunmen, wearing fatigues and ankle-length black coats, opened fire in the parking lot around 11:30 a.m. MDT (1730 GMT) before entering the school cafeteria. Bullets ricocheted off lockers as students raced toward the exits.
Student Nick Foss saw one of the gunmen pull a sawed-off shotgun from under his coat. "Finally I started figuring out these guys shot to kill for no reason," Foss said. The gunman "didn't say anything. When he looked at me, the guy's eyes were just dead."
The killers fired as they walked into the cafeteria and continued shooting as they moved upstairs into the library. Cohn said he heard one girl begging for her life and then a bang. "They were laughing after they shot. It was like they were having the time of their life," he said.
Dozens of students hid in classrooms before escaping with the help of police in an armoured car. Others were trapped for hours while police commando teams searched for the gunmen and their bombs. Some students had called their parents on cellular phones from inside the building to whisper they were OK.
Hundreds of police officers from throughout the Denver area surrounded the school, which has 1,800 students. As TV images of the scene were broadcast nationwide, helicopter ambulances used a sports field as a landing pad, and officers in helmets and camouflage gear took cover behind squad cars.
Students who fled the building wept and held their hands above their heads while police frisked them. Many parents gathered at a nearby elementary school and answered questions from investigators, who were trying to identify some of the victims based only on what they were wearing.

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naden

juz a simple, little random act - xkira positif atau negatif - boleh tinggalkan impak
bergantung pada camne kita project act tu - dalam tutur kata atau perbuatan
& bergantung pada camne cara seseorang tu terima act tu..

percaya x.. hanya kerana 1 word or 1 jelingan mata - impaknya boleh jadi amat besar
ni.. bukan pasal nak membesarkan perkara yg kecik atau perlekeh sesuatu yg besar
sbb tiap orang mmg lain cara menerima, menghadapi & mengharungi..
so siapa kita nak melabel, menilai & menghukum?

orang selalu kata - mereka yg commit suicide ni selfish.. coward..
selfish & coward ke? rasanya tidak.. memang tidak..
yg selfish & coward adalah kita - orang2 kat sekeliling dia sebenarnya..

nad cakap camni sbb nad pernah berada dalam situasi camni - nak bunuh diri..
bila harapan tu hilang.. rasa dah xnak hidup lagi.. rasa semuanya dah xde makna
dah siap2 fikir lg - "camne aku nak bunuh diri ni? method mana yg xmenyakitkan?"
stupid kan? fikir2 balik - memang stupid.. tapi fikir dalam2 - nad xrasa nad stupid
nad bangun sendiri - bukan sbb orang lain.. orang lain langsung xmembantu nad
kaunselor? nad pegi.. apa kesannya? jadi makin teruk.. memang makin teruk..
nad xrasa kaunselor dapat membantu.. yeah, membantu terukkan lagi ada la kot..
ingat lg camne kaunselor tu pandang nad.. KOSONG.. simpati & empati - PALSU!
'tolong' pun semata2 kerana dia adalah KAUNSELOR.. bukan sebagai seorang MANUSIA..
kawan2? apa yg nad dapat juz "ko ni sensitif & emo sangat la", "laa tu pun nak sedih",
"benda kecik je tu - rilek laaa!" - tu respon yg nad dapat bila cuba nak cerita kat derang..
family? hmmm.. rasa mcm xsanggup lak nak nyusahkan derang dgn 'BENDA KECIK' gitu..
& memang ada fikir - "kalau aku xde, mesti mak lg happy.. xde nyusahkan mak lagi"..
sigh~ memang dah xtau nak cakap dgn siapa.. xtau nak luahkan pada siapa..
orang yg xkan menilai & melabel.. orang yg xkan cakap "benda kecik je tu", xperlekeh nad..
ada ke orang yg camtu? hmmmm..

"manusia hanya lihat apa yg ingin dilihat.. hanya mendengar apa yg ingin didengar.."
tu memang benar.. tapi nad xnak sentiasa begitu! xnak depan nad dia pujuk, blkg nad?
nad juz harap - masa tu - ada sumone yg at least boleh pandang nad & cakap dgn nad..
dgn ikhlas & rasa kasih.. rasa disayangi & dilindungi.. tapi xde.. memang langsung xde..
nak kata nad langsung xberi peluang pada mereka utk memahami? nad memang dah beri..
langsung xberi peluang pada mereka utk mendekati? pun dah beri.. tapi apa yg nad dapat?
makin kecewa.. makin terluka.. dgn kata2 & pandangan mata mereka.. salah nad jugak ke?
nad xrasa nad selfish.. nad mmg xselfish..
juz nad terlupa - roh & jasad ni bukan milik nad.. akal & rasa ni bukan kepunyaan nad..
& memang terlupa.. kalaupun pautan sabar dah patah, nad masih ada pautan Syahadah..
tu aje yg selamatkan nad.. sampai hari ni.. & InsyaAllah - sampai tiba masa yg sepatutnya..
itu sebenarnya yg membantu nad.. kasihNya & kalimahNya..

& at least daripadanya nad tahu - siapa yg benar2 peduli akan hidup mati nad kat dunia ni..

bukan sbb selfish.. bukan sbb coward.. bukan sbb stupidity..
juz rasa mcm.. "dah la kita terjatuh, pastu orang sepak2 & ludah2 kita lagi"..
ada ke yg benar2 faham rasa yg begini? 'benda kecik' aje, huh?
orang boleh cakap, label, nilai & hukum apa yg mereka mahu - selagi xkena kat diri sendiri
masa tu nanti.. mungkin baru benar faham.. hope xterlambat atau terlanjur la..

"aku xnak mencari alasan untuk terus hidup..
& aku xnak mencipta alasan untuk memilih mati.."

naden

huhuhu sebagai orang yg pernah nak commit suicide, rasanya nad xlayak cakap gini..
tapi kekadang tu memang rasa pelik sesangat..

orang yg 'elok2' hidup, sibuk fikir nak mati..
orang yg sakit teruk, punya la usaha nak terus hidup..

rasa macam.. kekadang kita ni bagaikan xbersyukur dgn apa yg kita ada
sampai la masa 'sesuatu' tu ditarik balik - secara halus ataupun direnggut terus
yeah.. sesuatu yang indah xkan kekal selamanya
& manusia akan menghargai sesuatu itu hanya setelah mereka kehilangannya..

tapi yelah kan.. masing2 pun ada kesusahan & kepayahan sendiri..
orang yg sentiasa tampak ceria, xsemestinya dia benar bahagia..
orang yg ada harta & kuasa - pun boleh bunuh diri, inikan pulak orang yg miskin..
'kesusahan or kepayahan' - izzit alasan? hmmm.. mungkin benar cuma alasan..
tapi tiap sebab yg bersebab ada penyebabnya.. kan?

kalau benda dah jadi, xde guna kita menyesal or fikir "what if"..
sebelum benda tu jadi - laksanakan tanggungjawab kita..
kalau bukan sebagai kawan sekalipun, jalankan la kerana kita ni manusia & insan..

maybe 1 word or 1 pandangan mata kita boleh membantu atau mengubah seseorang
juz ke arah yg positif atau negatif - ???.. nobody knows..

*termenung jauh*

Longhairlady

My best friend pernah cuba bunuh diri a couple of years ago due to depression
yg amat sgt.... She took a lot of sleeping pills at one go tp mujurlah her hubby
n kids discovered it fast, n thank God she is still alive. Ironically, when she took
her life..., her hubby n all her kids were around but they did not realize it..., but
luckily they realized it on time to save her.

B4 she committed suicide, i did receive an sms frm her which sound unusual
2 me.... like being thankful for hving me as her best friend for 32 years n hope
we can still become best friends in the next life. Feeling uneasy, i immediately
called her but her daughter picked up d phone n told me that her mummy was
sleeping..., hence i did not get 2 talk 2 her. (I am in Johor n she's in PJ). After
nearly a week, she contacted me n told me that she was in the hospital due to
her committing suicide. I was shocked n sad but really thankful that she was fine.

Ada masa, bila kita mengalami tekanan perasaan yg amat sgt....n mghadapi pelbgi
dugaan yg dtg bertali arus, kita akan seakan2 hilang pertimbangan. Justeru, itu
boleh melakukan sesuatu yg di luar dugaan kita sendiri.... Harap2 ini takkan
berlaku kpd diri sy n my beloved ones...

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Agul

Nice sharing bro naden. I am happy that we have you here.



I'm going to delete this. So don't quote.

[ Last edited by  Agul at 9-8-2008 02:41 PM ]