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Benarkah Ibn Taimiyah Menyeleweng ?

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Post time 17-4-2008 12:17 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by sayangpakwahab at 17-4-2008 08:54 AM


aku rasa ko ni memang tak penah baca buku ibn taymiyah la.
Kalau ko nak yang siao scankan pun diorang leh bagi kat ko.
hehe.Sori nyampuk..


Ko bagi tau kitab Ibnu Taimiyah yang ko dah baca, mari bukak satu thread... aku tak banyak koleksi kitab2 ibnu Taimiyah (terjemahan) tapi mencukupi untuk pengetahuan, bagi tau kitab yang mana? point ko sendiri melalui pembacaan ko sendiri bukan ciplak point ahbshi..

[ Last edited by  kupia at 17-4-2008 12:27 PM ]
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Post time 17-4-2008 01:35 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by kupia at 17-4-2008 12:17 PM


Ko bagi tau kitab Ibnu Taimiyah yang ko dah baca, mari bukak satu thread... aku tak banyak koleksi kitab2 ibnu Taimiyah (terjemahan) tapi mencukupi untuk pengetahuan, bagi tau kitab yang man ...

kitab yang ada pun terjemahan.Nampak no le ko ni jahil bahasa Arab,
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Post time 17-4-2008 08:05 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by kupia at 16-4-2008 07:17 PM


Ko bagi tau kitab Ibnu Taimiyah yang ko dah baca, mari bukak satu thread... aku tak banyak koleksi kitab2 ibnu Taimiyah (terjemahan) tapi mencukupi untuk pengetahuan, bagi tau kitab yang man ...

yang ko sibuk pasal website tu watpe? Baik ko jawab setiap tuduhan terhadap Ibnu Taiminyak tu, jangan nak lari topik...dasar wahabi...hehehehe
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Post time 18-4-2008 12:30 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by abuaya at 17-4-2008 08:05 PM

yang ko sibuk pasal website tu watpe? Baik ko jawab setiap tuduhan terhadap Ibnu Taiminyak tu, jangan nak lari topik...dasar wahabi...hehehehe


bagi ajalah sumber websitenya taulah orang nak menjawabnya macam mana... lain kali kalau cut n paste orang lain punya tulisan bagi tau sumbernya dari mana...  nak kata sendiri yang tulis ada pulak al-habib al-habib muncul kat situ...
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Post time 18-4-2008 12:51 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by kupia at 17-4-2008 07:30 PM


bagi ajalah sumber websitenya taulah orang nak menjawabnya macam mana... lain kali kalau cut n paste orang lain punya tulisan bagi tau sumbernya dari mana...  nak kata sendiri yang tulis ada ...

alasan-alasan...nak tengok website lah, takleh cut and paste lah...jawabnya idok jugok...
biar aku tolong carikan utk ko....ha jawab:

http://www.alsunna.org/ibntaymiahkufur.htm
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Post time 18-4-2008 02:34 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by abuaya at 18-4-2008 12:51 PM

alasan-alasan...nak tengok website lah, takleh cut and paste lah...jawabnya idok jugok...
biar aku tolong carikan utk ko....ha jawab:

http://www.alsunna.org/ibntaymiahkufur.htm


Aku dah cek website ASBASH KO ni.. geli lah aku... imam-imam besar rujukan dia ni dia ha:-

Abu Ishaq al-Isfarayiniyy, Abu               Nu^aym al-Asbahaniyy, ^Abdul-Wahhab, Shaykh Abu Muhammad               al-Juwayniyy, ^Abdul-Malik Abul-Ma^ali al-Juwayniyy Abu Mansur               at-Tamimiyy, al-Isma^iliyy, al-Bayhaqiyy, ad-Daraqutniyy,               al-Khatib al-Baghdadiyy, Abul-Qasim al-Qushayriyy and his son               Abun-Nasr, Abu Ishaq ash-Shiraziyy, Nasr al-Maqdisiyy Imam               al-Ghazaliyy, Al-Farawiy, Abul-Wafa' Ibn ^Aqil al-Hanbaliyy, The               Hanafiyy judge: ad-Damghaniyy.


AL-AHBASH = HABASHI (mengikut wikepedia)

Al-Ahbash is a religious sect and political party in Lebanon;alternative names are: The Ahbash, Habashis, al Habashiyyin, andJam'iyyat al- Mashari' al-Khayriyya al-Islamiyya (in English,Association of Islamic Charitable Projects - AICP).
It follows the teachings of Shaykh Abdullah Al-Harari (Abdullah ibn Muhammad ibn Yusuf al-Harari al-Shibi al-Abdari), also known as al-Habashiyy ("the Ethiopian" and cognate to Habesha), an interpretation of Islam combining elements of Sunni and Shi'a [1][2] theology with Sufism. It advocates pluralism,and opposition to political activism and violence (its slogan is "theresounding voice of moderation"). It also promotes its beliefsinternationally through a major Web presence and regional offices, notably in the United States.
It is highly controversiol within Islam for its religious stance (anti-Salafi, and with Sufi and other beliefs seen as heretical [3][4]) and its political alliances (pro-Syria and conciliatory toward the West).
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Post time 18-4-2008 06:08 PM | Show all posts
....and conciliatory toward the West  


tak pa..  janji niat dan tujuan baeeekkkkk...
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Post time 18-4-2008 10:16 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by kupia at 17-4-2008 09:34 PM


Aku dah cek website ASBASH KO ni.. geli lah aku... imam-imam besar rujukan dia ni dia ha:-

Abu Ishaq al-Isfarayiniyy, Abu               Nu^aym al-Asbahaniyy, ^Abdul-Wahhab, Shaykh Abu Muh ...


so mana jawapan ko? hahahahahaha  tak habih2 tactik lapok mengalihkan topik....wahabi wahabi....
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Post time 7-5-2008 09:12 PM | Show all posts
hahahahaha...KUPIA, mana jawapan kau?! tu lah, jangan cakap takabur, kang dah tersangkut kantoi...hahahahaha
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Post time 13-5-2008 02:33 AM | Show all posts
Tuh la memang tak selesai. Kalo masing2 dok fanatik buta tanak guna akal. Banyak studies comparekan kemahiran intelek orang2 yg kononnya 'religious' dan yang kurang 'religious'. Yang kononnya 'religious' didapati kurang kemahiran intelek
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