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Perkahwinan berbeza agama!!

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Post time 4-4-2009 06:34 AM | Show all posts

Balas #19 mbhcsf\ catat

Alamak kat website mana tah. Malaslah nak cari balik.
BTW too much info on the net, only people well read can verify which is reliable which is suspect.
As I said I was hoping someone more informed on this would explain.  And I'm also wondering the same things...what about uluhiyyah?
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Post time 4-4-2009 06:54 AM | Show all posts

hmm i think and i might be forgotten

the rubbiyyah refers to the concept of God ( ilah) and uluhiyyah is merely focuses on the practice. What I could say about this so called Ahli KITAB is that, they are  viewed as those who are still practicing  on what the original scriptures said. We know with this Ahlil kitab , the rules are always  like these - we could eat the animal  they slaughtered, and could marry them. So, to, you  know, tag them as  "kafir" well i am quite unsure of this , rasanyer. I need  more clarification. That's why i am asking the concrete definition of ahlil l kitab and to what extend they really "mentauhidkan ALLAH" ? - is it just based  the concept of GOD or  the practice?

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Post time 4-4-2009 07:38 AM | Show all posts

Balas #1 indah_iman\ catat

alah, lantak lah itu perkahwinan depa
ang jangan sibok2
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Post time 4-4-2009 07:45 AM | Show all posts

Balas #22 mbhcsf\ catat

ahli kitab tu depa depa yang dalam agamo yang diberikan kitab lah, biaq pi kitab depa pesong ka apa ka, gelaran depa ialah ahli kitab
kalu dh ikut kitab sebenaq, itu ajaran isle, bukan yahudi dan kristian...pasai namo agamo yahudi dan namo agamo kristian tu tak wujud pun maso jaman nabi - nabi depa...
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 Author| Post time 4-4-2009 09:09 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by nanat87 at 4-4-2009 07:38
alah, lantak lah itu perkahwinan depa
ang jangan sibok2


Aku buat topic ni pon bukan nak aibkan di'orang tp untuk dijadikan iktibar..
Kau ni sibuk je..Kebelakangan ni aku susah nak tgk batang ayat kau...kenape
x dpt bayar bil elektrik ke ape..
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 Author| Post time 4-4-2009 09:11 AM | Show all posts
Patut la kredit kau skit walaupun post byk sbb mulut celupar!!
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Post time 4-4-2009 09:19 AM | Show all posts

Reply #24 nanat87's post

tapi kan agama samawi mmg ada scriptures kitab yg diturunkan  kepada rasul - so

apa nama agama yg kitab Zabur ,
apa nama agama yg kitab Taurat
apa nama agama yg kitab Injil

semua ktab ni apa agama yg ktab - kitab ini diturunkan?


sebab apa yg saya tahu, in the purest form, all the teachenings in these kitabs were stated ALLAh is their Ilah , kan?

so bila terpesong, sampai Allah pun all these people yg ada kitab ni ( alleged terpesong  yg istilahnya)  tak akui , kita nak labelkan depa ahli kitab jugak ker?

sedangkan hukum sembelih pun kita tak tahu yg ahli kitab ni ikut  syarat sah sembelihan ker tak , contohnya lah...
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Post time 4-4-2009 09:31 AM | Show all posts

Reply #13 seri_air's post

thanx for that explanation...:handshake: :handshake:

:victory: :victory: :victory:
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Post time 4-4-2009 09:43 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by seri_air at 3-4-2009 11:03
Eh, kat malaysia ada ke? Camana boleh terlepas? Kawen kat oversea ke?


kawen kt mana xtau la........
tp anak dh 2 org masa tu...around 14 n 17...tahun 80an mcm tu la
ni neighbour akak sendiri............

anak2 dgn selamba mengaku...my mum n mysis kristian la auntie, only myfather islam..........
the father bleh lak solat kat umah.....n pegi solat jumaat...selamba jer

Akak dh call pihak berkenaan.........emmmm....... sedihnya
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Post time 4-4-2009 12:58 PM | Show all posts

Balas #25 indah_iman\ catat

alah, aku sibok dokat forum teen and sex edu, buang maso aku jah dok ngendap ang nih
aku guno intornet free la, aku dok kawasan wimax region...ang dok kelante tau apo...miskin
sat lagi nok dokat pmr baru terhegeh pok ang nak putuihkan intornet ang

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Post time 4-4-2009 01:05 PM | Show all posts

Balas #27 mbhcsf\ catat

kalu ikot alquran, nabi nabi seblom mohamad mengako sebagai isle...nabi yaakob tym nak wapat, dia panggil anak anak dio,suruh mengako sebgai isle...ni ado dalam alquran..itu kalu ang nak ikot alquran la.aku no hal

lagi satu, hukom sembelihan orag yahdudi lagi kotat daripada ajaran isle...ang nak kata kosher tu haram ka
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 Author| Post time 4-4-2009 02:53 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by nanat87 at 4-4-2009 12:58
alah, aku sibok dokat forum teen and sex edu, buang maso aku jah dok ngendap ang nih
aku guno intornet free la, aku dok kawasan wimax region...ang dok kelante tau apo...miskin
sat lagi no ...


Aku main com pon ade waktunye gak!!

Miskin..biarlah miskin harta asal kaya iman...Aku thu la negeri2 tu except kelantan  maju tp satu je

boleh kate..X ade yg sempurna di dunia ini ape2 sekali pon kecuali Allah..Allah x pernah memberi dua

kali senangan dan kepayahan.. Yg payah di dunia senang di akhirat Yg bahagia di dunia susah di akhirat..
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Post time 4-4-2009 03:00 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by nanat87 at 4-4-2009 13:05
kalu ikot alquran, nabi nabi seblom mohamad mengako sebagai isle...nabi yaakob tym nak wapat, dia panggil anak anak dio,suruh mengako sebgai isle...ni ado dalam alquran..itu kalu ang nak ikot alq ...


i did not say kosher tu haram .

I just wondering atas definition apaer we still calling them as ahli kitab ?
is it by their practice or by depa punya konsep ketuhanan ? kalau ikutkan depa punya konsep ketuhanan - depa mentauhidkan Allah tak sebagaimana Prophet Musa A.S etc etc tu dulu....

satu lagi , ijuga nak tanya adakah depa dikatakan ahli kitab sebab berdasarkan pratice depa ker?


Jadi based on your posting,

yes agama samawi yang ada kitab kitab ni semua ( yg Asli )  mmg mentauhidkan Allah....kira islam , tapi yg dah di pour in - ditokok tambah etc etc tu yg jadi isunya - adakah mereka masih boleh dikira sebagai ahli kitab - just about anyone?

Tom , Dick and HArry?
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Post time 4-4-2009 03:01 PM | Show all posts

Reply #31 nanat87's post

boleh citer sikit hukum sembelihan Yahudi?
i tak tahu ni , tapi curious to know....
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