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Kisah Arab Muslim bela babi di Magribi.

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Post time 24-6-2010 08:56 AM | Show all posts |Read mode


       
Shunned by most Muslim countries where pork consumption is areligious taboo, pig farming is booming in Morocco thanks to agrowing tourist industry and pragmatic breeders.
"If there's tourism, it would be better to have pigs," said SaidSamouk, 39, who raises 250 porkers at his farm 28 kilometres (17miles) from the seaside town of Agadir.
After being battered by a wave of bird flu, he launched a pigoperation 20 years ago in partnership with an elderlyFrenchman.
Today, Samouk spins dreams of doubling his production withinthree years to help meet the demands of some 10 million touristsexpected to visit Morocco in 2010 - up from 7.5 million who flockedto the north African country in 2007.

"I'm a practising Muslim. I don't eat pork and I don't drinkalcohol but it's just a breeding operation like any other and noimam has ever reprimanded me for it," he said of raising pigs --whose consumption is prohibited in both Islam and Judaism.


Outlawed in Algeria, Mauritania and Libya, pig farming isnonetheless authorised in Tunisia as in Morocco, to cater to theflocks of European and other non-Muslim tourists who head to northAfrica's spectacular beaches and deserts.

"Our clientele is 98 percent European. They want bacon forbreakfast, ham for lunch and pork chops for dinner," said AhmadBartoul, a buyer for a large Agadir hotel. Signs are posted onbuffet tables to avoid any confusion about the meat's origin.

Morocco's swine industry comprises some 5,000 pigs raised onseven farms located near Agadir, Casablanca and the north-centralcity of Taza. The breeders include a Christian, two Jews and fourMuslims.


Annual production is currently estimated at 270 tonnes of meat,bringing in some 12 million dirhams (1.6 million dollars) inrevenue.
The breeders include Jean Yves Yoel Chriquia, a 32-year-old Jewwho owns the country's main pork processing factory along with afarm of 1000 pigs. Chriquia also buys pigs from Samouk and anotherlocal farmer at 22 dirhams a kilo.
Four times a month, he goes to the slaughter house in Agadir --but must enter from a door other than that used for deliveries ofmeat that is halal, or authorised under Islam.
"We have a special place for this sort of slaughter. Aftercutting up the meat and getting the veterinarian's stamp, wetransport it to the factory and put it in cold storage," Yoelsaid.
Almost 80 percent of his products are earmarked for hotels inAgadir and Marrakech. The rest heads to supermarkets and butchers-- and to feed some 220 Chinese workers building a nearbymotorway.
"My wife was certain we would never find pork because we were ina Muslim country," said French retiree Bernard Samoyeau, as heordered pork at a butcher in Agadir. "We have been pleasantlysurprised."
Yoel is also pleased.
"We have more than doubled our sales in three years and it'sstarting to snowball. But since we rely on tourism, we must becareful," he said.
The Moroccan farmer speaks from experience: the 1990 Gulf war,the 2001 attacks on New York and Washington, and the 2003 invasionof Iraq ultimately forced him to shutter his last business burdenedby 2.8 million dirhams of unpaid bills.
Three years ago, he opened up a new company that employs 31people.

"Hotels all over Morocco are calling me up for deliveries, butfor the time being I can't respond to all the demands. We'regetting there, little by little," Yoel said.


Nor does he see a conflict between his job and his Jewishfaith.
"Religion is a private matter. What I do is just another way toearn a living and my rabbi has never said anything about it," hesaid.
AFP
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Post time 24-6-2010 03:17 PM | Show all posts
pandai arab muslim nih wat duit dgn menjual babi sajork...
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Post time 24-6-2010 09:48 PM | Show all posts


arab arab arabbbbb...
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Post time 25-6-2010 12:10 AM | Show all posts
Tak terkata.
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Post time 25-6-2010 09:16 AM | Show all posts
lps pegang babi....samak....pahtu pegang lagi.........samak lagi.......n so on
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Post time 25-6-2010 09:58 PM | Show all posts
Mcm mana nk komen hal ni...? Aku confused..
Apa komen ulamak2 kita..?
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 Author| Post time 25-6-2010 10:05 PM | Show all posts
Kalau hukum bela babi halal dengan syarat untuk di jual kepada non muslim akupun nak bukaklah ladang babi
untung tau bela babi ni kuat main setahun 3 kali beranak sekali beranak sampai 10-12 ekor..amacam hahahaha
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Post time 27-6-2010 12:31 AM | Show all posts
Babi ni dalam Quran sebut tak boleh makan, tapi tak ada pulak hal samak2, hadis pun tak dak.. hanya pendapat imam syafie jer.. iman lain tak yah samak pun...
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Post time 27-6-2010 04:25 PM | Show all posts
Kuman...penyakit....

Ade sebb Allah haramkan..
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Post time 27-6-2010 10:16 PM | Show all posts
speechless
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Post time 28-6-2010 12:32 AM | Show all posts
ok ape...minum arak lagi terok kot
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Post time 28-6-2010 03:49 PM | Show all posts
sentuh babi tak semestinya kena samak, setengah pendapat sajork mcm imam syafiee hat suruh samak...lgpong imam syafiee pong  hukumkan najis bg bulu kucing hat tertanggal.tapi hukum yg ni kita tak bising2 pulok kaaahn, kalau betoi la kita ni gigih hardcore ponya syaffie....
sbb itew kena respect la worang2 arah tu sbb depa bohkan pegang mazhab mcm kita.
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 Author| Post time 28-6-2010 10:18 PM | Show all posts
kita ikuti sepintas lalu versi yahudi bela babi pula,merekapun sebijik macam kita gak haramkan babi.

                                                                        Israeli pig-farming kibbutz draws religious ire                                                       
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Ms Goldfarb-Albak maintains a kosher diet, but likes working with pigs
                       
                                                       
                    
                                                                                            By Heather Sharp                                                                        
                                            BBC News, southern Israel                                                
        

       

A female pig by the name of Barbie lies anaesthetised on a bed, a pulse monitor clipped to her snout as it pokes out from under a blanket
Staff in blue medical scrubs crowd around her, examining an image of the inside of her colon, shown on a computer screen above the bed.
Unusually in the pig world, Barbie was raised by Jews.
Researcher Sharon Goldfarb-Albak strokes the animal's head tenderly.
"I love pigs! The Bible says don't eat pig, so I don't eat pig, but that doesn't mean I can't pet them and make them my friends," she says.
Pork plant
Kibbutz Lahav is a controversial enterprise in Israel, the world's only predominantly Jewish state.                       
                                                                                        Research manager Ofer Doron tucks into pork chops happily
                       
                       
                               
Eating pork is prohibited under Jewish dietary laws, and to many Jews the pig has a deep cultural symbolism representing all that is unholy.
Raising pigs for pork has been banned in Israel since 1963, apart from in a small, traditionally Arab-Christian area in the north of the country.
But the kibbutz maintains vehemently that the primary purpose of its herd is for medical research, which makes the operation legal.
However, it also has a factory, in which it processes excess animals, and those raised to provide organs for research, to be sold for meat.
And when the day's medical trial - testing of equipment for screening for colorectal cancer - is over, some of the researchers tuck in as the institute's manager doles out plates of sizzling pork chops from a barbecue.
Ofer Doron is passionately secular and a proud pork eater.
But he says about a quarter of the Kibbutz's staff are kippa-wearing, religious Jews, happy to work with the pigs for research, but not to consume their meat.
"Saving lives is one of the biggest Jewish commandments," he says.                                                                                                                                        The Kibbutz has gathered a collection of model pigs
                       
                                                       
               
A short walk along the kibbutz's leafy paths, Ofer's father, Eri Doron, 78, one of the founders of the collective farm, recalls that the pig-farming began almost by accident.
The early kibbutziks were given three pigs as a gift - "from I don't know where" - which they kept in nearby caves.
An accomplished musician fluent in English, Hebrew, Italian and Hungarian, he tells me he survived unscathed as a teenager, living in Budapest, as Jews from across Eastern Europe were taken to the Nazi death camps.
He was from a religious family, but as a youth would sneak out to restaurants in Hungary to eat pork sausages without his mother's knowledge.                       
                                                                                        Eri Doron says the Kibbutz's first three pigs came as a gift
                       
                       
                               
His father committed suicide shortly after the war ended, and Mr Doron boarded a ship to begin a new life in the recently-founded state of Israel.
The Kibbutz was strongly socialist, and "very revolutionary", based on utopian Marxist ideals, he says.
And there was no debate at all, he stresses, about keeping pigs - "we are atheists," he says simply.
Elise Gelkoff, who has lived on the kibbutz for the past 40 years, says secularism in the Kibbutz movement was strongly linked to the post-holocaust mentality. The aim was to create "new Jew".
"It was a shared view that we will never be victims again, we will work our own land, we will be strong, we won't take part in the superstitions that comprise religion, we'll see a new clear rationalistic way."
Growing demand
But over the years, the Kibbutz's identity has changed. Pork is on the dining room menu less - just Fridays and holidays - these days, as more traditional and religious Jews have moved in.
Nevertheless, in Israel as a whole, demand for what is sometimes euphemistically dubbed "white meat" has grown in recent decades.                       
                                                                                        Researchers say pigs have many useful similarities to humans
                       
                       
                               
This is partly because of an influx of secular Jewish immigrants from the former Soviet Union, but items such a prosciutto are increasingly making an appearance on trendy Tel Aviv menus.
As pork imports are generally banned, most of the meat on sale is domestically produced - with Kibbutz Lahav providing just under a tenth of the total produce.
The kibbutz faces strong criticism in a society with a deep-running secular-religious divide.
Animal rights activists object to its research and say the pigs' conditions are not good enough, but Ofer Doron says the animals are well looked after and all activities comply with Israeli law.
'Disrespectful'
And although many religious Jews accept the use of pigs for medical purposes, they accuse the kibbutz of using the research as little more than an excuse for selling pork for profit.
And the aversion to pigs runs deep for some - to the point where swine flu was renamed "Mexican flu" to avoid offence.                       
                                                                                        Rabbi Vilk says he would find it very difficult to touch a pig
                       
                       
                               
Rabbi Shlomo Vilk, the leader of a Jerusalem synagogue, says that the pig, even more than other animals considered non-kosher, has become the symbol of everything that for Jews is "unpure, filthy and dirty".
As well as the dietary prohibition, he says, the Romans who destroyed the second Jewish temple in AD70 had the pig as their emblem, and as a result, Jewish sages also prohibited raising the animals on the land of Israel.
"It became a symbol of something which Jews don't do… to bring it into the public realm, to say 'this is our flag' and 'this is what we do', yes, I do think it's wrong," he says. "This is disrespect for so many Jews."
Even so, he believes that to use pigs - which have physiological similarities to humans - for medical purposes is to find, as he puts it, "sparks of divinity" in the prohibited animals. But would he go as far as touching one?
There is a long, awkward silence.
"Don't push it. I don't know," he says. "In principle - yes. In practice, I don't believe so."
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Post time 5-7-2010 09:29 AM | Show all posts
  TENGOK MUKA MR.PIGGY ni teringat kes budak2 pompuan melayu yang peluk mesra babi satu masa dulu.HEBOH SEKETIKA DGN PRO DAN KONTRA.
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Post time 19-7-2010 05:11 PM | Show all posts
kompius sekejep
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Post time 22-7-2010 01:22 AM | Show all posts
Sungguh memualkan
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Post time 23-7-2010 11:53 AM | Show all posts
hukum dia senang saja

setiap menda yg haram dimakan,
adalah haram utk mendapatkan sumber pendapatan darinya.

Rasulullah shallallâhu `alaihi wa sallam bersabda,
“Sesungguhnya Allah bila mengharamkan sesuatu maka Dia (juga) mengharamkan harganya.” (Dikeluarkan oleh Ahmad, Abu Daud dan selainnya dari Ibnu ‘Abbas radhiyallâhu `anhuma. Dishohihkan oleh Al-Albany)

cth 1:
tangkap katak dan dijual kepada cina utk cina itu makan, HARAM
kalau jual katak, utk digunakan umpan pancing, lain pula.
begitu juga seperti keldai yg mana haram dimakan, tapi ada kegunaan lain iaitu sebagai hewan kerja. di haruskan.


cth2:
ada babi dalam ladang getah kita. kita panggey cina suh tembak dan bawak balik daging babi tu, dan kita amibil duit dari cina tu sebab dia memburu di tanah ladang kita. Duit tu HARAM.

cth3:
ada babi dalam kampung kita. kita ada senapang. kita tembak babi sampai mati. bagi kat cina dengan tukaran menda lain.
maksudnya, babi tukar dengan benda lain seperti peluru, beras, duit, atau apa saja,
semua itu HARAM.
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Post time 12-8-2010 12:56 PM | Show all posts
org arab tak semestinya islam..ingat tuh...ada gak yang kristian..bla bla bla...
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Post time 12-8-2010 02:37 PM | Show all posts
euwww... geli aku baca thread ni... tgk gambar2 vavi yg posing tu pun dah cukup memualkan
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Post time 13-8-2010 02:28 PM | Show all posts
vavi vunye varab
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