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Untold History : Si Kelantan Bapakkk Segala Peniru

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Post time 23-4-2011 12:50 AM | Show all posts |Read mode
Post Last Edit by unekspekted_V at 30-4-2011 16:19

Seperti yang dijanjikan

Yang selalu jadi mangsa sang peniru ni.. x lain ialah Johor.  Apebende jee dorang buat, Kelantan mesti nak tiru jugak... pehhh..

Krown

In 1865.. Bile Albert Baker bawak balik Krown of Johore dari London, studded with diamonds and rubies.. and used it as state regalia..



Kelantan is the 1st state yang tiru.. but, their's made in 1920's. No historical value. Not beautiful also :




State Emblems

When Johore introduced their 2nd version of "State Emblem" in 1888.. Kelantan also tiru.. but made in 1919 using "Kijang"... hahahha






Ancient Emblems

Prior to that.. Kelantan using the state emblem of "Lion of Ali" semasa dorang jadik jajahan Siam in 1832..



While Johor.. dated back in 1753 oleh kesultanan Johor/Riau sambungan Melaka.. HH Albert Baker adopted similar design as sovereign state from Malacca's time..




Royal Ciphers

HH Albert Baker is the 1st using Royal Ciphers of "AB" in 1865.. then continued by HH Ibrahim which using "SI" in 1895 sehingga kepda Sultan Sekarang.. sebab tu name Sultan Johor sejak Ibrahim start dari huruf "I".. klu tak..jenuh dorang nak tukar royal cipher yg dah ditampal kat mane2 ni sejak dulu..



But Kelantan... tiru jugak lagi..dia pun nak ade jugak, tak nak kalah.. but their's introduced in 1923. No historical value.




Lagu Negeri


Bile Johor memperkenalkan lagu "Selamat Johor" pada 1885.. si Kelatan pun nak jugak.. ditiru pada tahun 1927.. dah laa tu.. lirik pun di ciplak bulat2 lebih kurang same.. pehhh

Lagu Selamat Johor:

Allah peliharakan Sultan‘Nugerahkan diasegala kehormatansihat dan riakekal dan makmurluaskan kuasanaungkan kamirakyat dipimpiniberzaman lagidengan merdeka bersatu hatiAllah berkati JohorAllah selamatkan Sultan.

Lagu Negeri Kelantan :

Lanjutkan Usia Al-Sultan Kami
Sultan Kelantan Raja Ikrami
Aman Sentosa Tuhan Sirami
Kekal Memerintah Kami
Kasih Dan Taat Setia Disembahkan
Keriangan Diucapkan
Segala Kebesaran Allah Cucurkan
Bertambah Kemuliaan



Freemason

HRH Ibrahim dilantik jadi 2nd Degree Master of London Lodge in 1906.  Upgrade to Grand Master of East in 1920.  3 anaknya initiated in London Lodge in 1920.. the rare occurance and the most unique phenomenon in mason history.  While... Menterinya.. Dato' Seri Amar DiRaja Rahman Andak jadik Master of English Lodge in 1922.. the 1st and only foreigners yang jadik Master English Lodge even sampai sekarang.. total - 5 orang Melayu Johor jadik Master.. spearheaded all Kings and Politicians around the world.

While.. Kelantan pun nak jadik jugak... Tengku Panglima Raja Ahmad pun jadik jugak.. tapi dapat pangkat kecik jee

So.. apebende jee yg best orang Johor buat.. orang kelantan jugak yg terhegeh2 meniru.. aku bukan cakap kosong.. history speaks.
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Post time 23-4-2011 01:18 AM | Show all posts
thread yg boleh bikin panas ni
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Post time 23-4-2011 11:25 AM | Show all posts
BUkan Johor Tiru Turki Uthmaniyah........ ka ?



bukan tiru lah lah... unek... tapi  adaptasi  atau pengaruh ......
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Post time 23-4-2011 11:37 AM | Show all posts
barang baik apa salahnya ditiru...

yg penting jgn lupa bagi kredit la...originality is hard to found nowadays.
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Post time 23-4-2011 01:25 PM | Show all posts
semua ni depend pada pandangan orang la.. ade yang bleh kate tiru ade yang bleh kata adaptasi/referens.. tapi uneks ape kate ko buat plak yang negeri negeri lain.. bleh gak aku tambah ilmu..
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Post time 23-4-2011 01:35 PM | Show all posts
tajuk pun dah tak sedap didengar..
kecik ati org2 kelantan tau..
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Post time 23-4-2011 02:23 PM | Show all posts
sebenarnya johor yg tiru omputih.

omputih le pon segala2nya. dari polis, tentera sampai hal2 istana pon semuanya diasaskan drpd budaya omputih.

so johor peniru omputih. kelantan dll peniru atas peniru.
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Post time 23-4-2011 03:37 PM | Show all posts
apabila si pondan bertempik tak dpt cintee jejaka kelate..
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Post time 23-4-2011 05:10 PM | Show all posts
tread yang menghasut permusuhan...tutup..


tapi anak ikan demo yang i kenal memang banyak  jahat!
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Post time 23-4-2011 06:53 PM | Show all posts
tak habis2...
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Post time 23-4-2011 07:37 PM | Show all posts
Post Last Edit by oni313 at 23-4-2011 20:04



cmner ngan yg ni lak?
diilhamkan dan direka oleh arwah tun ghaffar baba
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Post time 23-4-2011 08:28 PM | Show all posts
sebenarnya johor yg tiru omputih.


abangbikerz Post at 23-4-2011 14:23






dlam kes ni. aku tk nk sebelah mane2 pihak, dr dulu lagi yg aku perasan yg memane royal sign antara kelantan dan johor,
mmg ade similarity, especially yg royal cipher tu, ade iras2 antara royal cipher kelantan ngan johor
put on hold dlu hal kelantan tiru johor,
ayat yg aku bold kan kt atas ni pun ade gak benarnyer, jata johor diilhamkan dr jata UK,
mulanya johor nk letak dua ekor singa, tp dsebabkan johor takde singa, yg ada pun harimau je,
so dletakkan la 2 ekor harimau disebelah perisai johor tu

1 lagi fakta yg nk aku kongsikan,
kelantan dan johor, segala pingat kebesaran 2-2 negeri ni, merupakan satu2 nya yg diiktiraf oleh UK, means jngan ingat datuk johor je yg diiktiraf, datuk kelantan pun diiktiraf kt UK sner nun....


anyway, tpulang la kpd pendapat memasing, janji negeri2 kt malaysia ni ada identiti....


'Kepada Allah, Berserah'

'Berserah Kepada Tuhan Kerajaan Kelantan'

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Post time 23-4-2011 09:46 PM | Show all posts
Nice info......
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Post time 23-4-2011 10:04 PM | Show all posts
apabila si pondan bertempik tak dpt cintee jejaka kelate..
batman_2007 Post at 23-4-2011 15:37


Takdenye terliur dgn gedebe kelate...pengotor, tak senonoh
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Post time 23-4-2011 10:44 PM | Show all posts
hmmm...interesting facts...
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Post time 23-4-2011 10:58 PM | Show all posts
Post Last Edit by batman_2007 at 23-4-2011 23:08

Reply 14# moteto


    ko terasa kenapa? kene rejek gak kerr
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Post time 24-4-2011 12:30 AM | Show all posts
bg aku..tak kisah pun..sapa tiru sapa...

janji bukan ditiru indon punya...kang diorg buat demo buat claim sana sini...
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 Author| Post time 24-4-2011 03:15 AM | Show all posts
Reply 8# batman_2007

nyah nyeh nyoh nyet.. tu je budak klantan tau ker??

bodo jugak dorang kan??
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 Author| Post time 24-4-2011 03:18 AM | Show all posts
Reply 12# oni313

tp abangbikerz cakap England pakai Tiger.. blajar kt niuzelen kot
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Post time 24-4-2011 08:32 AM | Show all posts
Post Last Edit by langlobat at 24-4-2011 08:37

budak johor. tak abis2 dengan sifat kenegerian..
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