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AirAsia Indonesia (QZ8501): Bangkai Pesawat Telah Dikesan #2428
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yindon yindon... |
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Bagi aku pula, kerana serpihan kapal ada, mayat ada, maka memang patut la dijumpai. Adakah itu bukti SAR mereka terlalu cekap sehingga patut dipuji melambung-lambung dan dalam masa yang sama memperlekahkan SAR kita dalam isu MH370? |
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its two different case my dear....
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Edited by Peterpan17 at 31-12-2014 11:28 AM
Rakyat mcm ko ni lah membuatkan Msia susah. Apa pun semua nak complaint. Takde yg ko puas hati. Semua buruk saja di mata ko. Biasanya yg suka complaint byk2 begini golongan mata sepet. Semalam aku dpt mesej dr jiran mata sepet kutuk tentera ATM takut dgn bunyi tembakan. Sebiji aku bg blk kat dia. Anak ko sendiri pun ko tak bg ksh jd tentera. Ada hati nak kutuk tentera. ATM put their life to protect the country. Org mcm korang ni dok meyalak itu tak betul, ini tak betul. Elok berambus sajalah korang dari bumi Msia. Tak blh contribute apa2 selain dari komplen.
Baca post aku di 1989. Klu gempa bumi kat Msia ni, ko mmg confirm dah terkencing kencing dlm seluar. Untunglah Msia ni takde bencana besar mcm kat Indonesia.
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yindon pers no integrity....sekian |
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Hihi.....terpegun ke....@decaff,scorpion and Peter pan |
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indonesia sudah biasa hadapi kemalangan mcm ni kan..
ie adam air dulu berapa byk dah yg terhempas,right?
tu x termasuk bencana alam..
so dorang dah tau apa nak buat...
kita pon boleh belajar sesuatu dr dorang ni..
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u percaya ke mh370 tu terhempas?
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Tapi apa yang sepatutnya sama antara Malaysia dan Indonesia atau mana-mana negara ialah ketelusan. Indonesia nampak lebih telus dan tak sembunyikan banyak fakta.. Malaysia? semuanya nak nampak yang indah-indah je. |
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setuju! puak-puak yang selalu complaint ni kadang-kadang bercakap without thinking. jangan la compare SAR untuk kes ni dengan MH370. sah-sah two different situation. |
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yup betol tu MH370 is totally a different case...kalo betul terhempas mana bankai kapal nya....xkan x timbul2 lagi kot....
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Post time 31-12-2014 11:47 AM
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Peterpan17 replied at 31-12-2014 10:37 AM
Aku rasa pegun ni freeze kot.
Bukan freeze tapi stall |
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Al Fatihah dan takziah pd semua... |
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Post time 31-12-2014 11:50 AM
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(CNN) -- The discovery of debris from AirAsia Flight QZ8501 means investigators have taken a big step toward answering the questions haunting the families of those aboard the doomed plane. What are the key questions, and what might come next?
What caused the plane to crash?
It's the million-dollar question. And as yet, nobody knows. Ahead lies a possibly months-long investigation into what happened after the Airbus A320-200 lost contact with air traffic control early Sunday.
Shortly beforehand, the pilot requested permission to turn and climb to a higher altitude because of bad weather, according to Indonesian officials.
Some experts have said the aircraft might have experienced an aerodynamic stall because of a lack of speed or from flying at too sharp an angle to get enough lift.
Analysts have also said that the pilots might not have been getting information from onboard systems about the plane's position or that rain or hail from thunderstorms in the area could have damaged the engines.
The key to understanding what happened is likely to be contained in the aircraft's cockpit voice recorder and flight data recorder, commonly known as black boxes.
"Until we get the black boxes, we won't know what's going on with the engines," Bill Savage, a former pilot with 30 years of experience, told CNN.
How will search crews retrieve bodies?
The recovery of the victims is the first priority for those involved in the operation.
Helicopters can lower divers to help recover bodies and debris from the surface of the water. Surface vessels may also play a role, as may submersibles if bodies are trapped in wreckage below the surface.
There are some victims who will be on the surface of the water and others trapped in the wreckage at the bottom of the Java Sea, about 140 feet (43 meters) down, said Peter Goelz, the former managing director of the U.S. National Transportation Safety Board.
It will be a challenge for divers to reach bodies because that depth is as far as a diver can descend, he said. The divers will probably have to use recovery chambers -- systems to help their bodies acclimate and continue. "It will take time," Goelz said. "You have to find the debris field, and that will take a week or 10 days."
How will they be identified?
Hospitals in the Indonesian city of Surabaya are being prepared to help house and identify bodies recovered off the coast of Borneo.
To help them, heartbroken relatives have already been asked to bring along photographs of their loved ones and to provide DNA samples.
But finding and identifying the bodies of all 162 people on board is a big task. And not all bodies may be found.
A recovered body wasn't wearing a life jacket. What could that indicate?
Goelz said that could mean that whatever happened to the plane, it happened quickly. It's possible that passengers didn't have time to act, said Mary Schiavo, a lawyer and former inspector general of the U.S. Department of Transportation.
Could any of the passengers have survived?
There have been air crashes in the past where there has been a sole survivor, said Deborah Hersman, president of the National Safety Council and former chairwoman of the U.S. National Transportation Safety Board. But finding anyone alive from Flight 8501 would be an incredibly unlikely scenario, she said.
A searcher said he could see the shadow of a plane through the water. If that's true, what then?
If that claim is true, searchers will be able to more quickly recover its flight data recorder, Schiavo said.
With the help of sonar, it shouldn't take long to recover recorders that contain an account of what happened on the plane, said Tim Taylor, a diver with 30 years of experience and an expert on submersible techniques and tools.
The plane's pingers, or underwater locator beacons, are still going off, Taylor said, so that should help speed up recovery of the recorder.
How will they find and retrieve the wreckage?
The debris was found in the Karimata Strait, about 110 nautical miles southwest of the Indonesian city of Pangkalan Bun, AirAsia said. That's just 6 miles from the plane's last known point of contact.
Divers and ships with sonar equipment are being sent to the site, where the water depth varies between 25 and 30 meters (about 80 to 100 feet), said Bambang Sulistyo, head of Indonesia's search and rescue agency.
As was the case in the search for Malaysia Airlines Flight 370, a towed pinger locator could be used to pinpoint the flight data recorders.
Schiavo said the proximity of the wreckage to the last known radar point suggested that there was not an inflight breakup and that the plane may have hit the water intact.
The shallow depth of the water also means that heavy pieces of wreckage are not likely to have drifted very far before reaching the bottom.
Any large pieces of the plane will be brought up so that they can be reconstructed as part of the crash investigation.
But first, the site must be mapped because the location of the separate pieces is an important part of figuring out what happened, Taylor said.
What does the debris found so far indicate?
The sight of an emergency exit door floating free on the water, as well as some life jackets, may raise questions about whether the crew had time to deploy safety equipment before the plane hit the water. But Schiavo said she has seen other crash sites where the emergency exit door or chutes had popped out without being deliberately deployed.
"In many cases, those things just come apart as the accident aircraft breaks apart in the water -- but we certainly need to know that," she said.
When found, the cockpit voice recorder will probably help determine whether orders were given to prepare for a ditching in water.
What's next for the relatives of the victims?
The families of those on board got the news they were dreading Tuesday with confirmation that the wreckage of the plane had been found.
Some fainted as they live watched a news conference about the discovery of the debris and saw video of a helicopter lowering a diver to what appeared to be a floating body. Others burst into tears.
The key element is to keep the relatives informed while the investigation continues, said Hersman.
"It's about making the decisions to share the information with the family," she said. Those in charge also need to maintain credibility by making sure they have the facts correct and share them in a timely manner, she said.
It's also important to protect families amid the media frenzy, she said, particularly when distressing scenes are broadcast -- for example, of bodies being brought up.
Hersman also pointed to the impact of the news of the AirAsia crash on the relatives of those lost in other air disasters, such as the mysterious disappearance of Flight 370 in March. The search for that plane continues, 10 months later.
"The lack of ability to close things down emotionally is just exhausting," Sarah Bajc told CNN on Monday night. Her partner, Philip Woods, was on board MH370.
When news broke that another plane had disappeared this week, Bajc said, "I just started to shake."
Flight 8501 took off two hours ahead of schedule. Is that something investigators will consider?
Schiavo said they will take that into account. A plane leaving before its scheduled departure time is unheard of in the United States, but that doesn't mean it isn't common practice in other countries, she noted.
"The question I would have is why," she said. "Were they trying to beat the weather?" |
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The whole world and world aviation experts (NSTB, ATSB, UK NTSB, INMARSAT, ETC, ETC) have been searching for MH370. The whole world has failed!!!!
Get the fact right. MH370 melencung jauh dari laluan asal - last known point is utara Aceh. MH370 masih terbang selama 6 jam selepas hilang. QZ3501 hilang di laluan asalnya dan terhempas sebaik sahaja hilang. Laut tempat terhempas sgt sempit.
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Yg nk sentap2 ni nape.. pm najib.. Letak jawatan je la.. |
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@all4rez saya setuju, sebab yang paling dekat dengan kejadian adalah nelayan...
masalahnya, ada ratusan nelayan yang mengaku2 di lokasi yang berbeza...walaupun begitu tetap dilayan badan SAR sebab semua kmungkinan boleh terjadi... |
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