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Pesawat MH17 Terhempas V3 : Ketua pemberontak sudah hubungi Malaysia #1
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kesian MAS, staff pegi kerja mcm kena paksa..morale down giler..kapal 2 hilang dlm masa setengah tahun..management buat kerja mcm haremmm!!!even bila ada crew yg submit resignation setelah berthn2 keje,diorg hanya dpt `ok thank you,bye bye`..buatlah company restructuring..takpun tutup je MAS tu buat rebranding balik jadi Malaysia Airways ke...kalau Tony boleh buat..kenapa MAS tak boleh..ini tidak..bayar gaji mahal2..masing2 membuta je bila buat kerja.. |
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Banyak jugak board2 Ericsson dalam MH17 ni.. sekarang tgh buat insurans claim..ntah buleh claim..ntah tidak..
sama jugak masa bombing kat airport karachi baru2 ni... |
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bijan nie kalau dia tak ambil hati rakyat masa tgh crisis mcm ni, masa next election ko tau lah nanti..sekarang ko pekak kan telinga..nanti giliran kitorg pulak pekakkan telinga dgr manifesto caprut masing2..
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dujuan posted on 21-7-2014 09:36 PM
Banyak jugak board2 Ericsson dalam MH17 ni.. sekarang tgh buat insurans claim..ntah buleh claim..nta ...
#501 kata tak boleh claim sebab insuran tak cover mangsa akibat jenayah perang |
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harithzakuan posted on 21-7-2014 09:37 PM
bijan nie kalau dia tak ambil hati rakyat masa tgh crisis mcm ni, masa next election ko tau lah nant ...
4 tahun lagi...
Macam2 gula2 akan ditabur in between
N kita pun terpedaya
Melayu mudah lupa |
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hazryka posted on 21-7-2014 08:51 PM
xadil la cam2. customer mana tau beli tiket lalu negara bgolak ke tak, kene tembak ke tak. customer ...
Macam kes kereta rosak kena banjir besar
Sejak beberapa kali banjir kilat
Ramai dah owner beli insuran yang cover bab banjir2 ni
Si makna kata lepas kes MH17 barulah juak2 aurlines akan buka mata gamaknya |
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alinone78 posted on 21-7-2014 09:39 PM 
#501 kata tak boleh claim sebab insuran tak cover mangsa akibat jenayah perang
memang dah expected mcm tak buleh claim..tapi procedure E/// , so kena buat lah...
my fren terkedu..sebab most of the shipments..paperwork atas nama dia..sedih je rasa..
kita kat sini banyak ulang alik pergi AMS..skang ni pun ramai gang2 AMS kat sini..bizz trip..sedih je..dah la baru sampai
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tak mustahil MH17 kena tembak dgn air to air missile by the Ukraine fighter...
Military & Defense More: The Aviationist
Malaysia Flight MH17 May Have Been Escorted By Ukrainian Su-27 Fighter Jets
DAVID CENCIOTTI, THE AVIATIONIST
JUL. 21, 2014, 5:53 AM 77,286 65
Ukraine MoD
There are still too many unanswered questions about the downing of Malaysia Airlines MH17 over eastern Ukraine on July 17, 2014. Among them one of the most important deals with the possible error made by the operator inside the SA-11 “Gadfly” (“Buk”) TELAR (transporter erector launcher and radar) who did fire one or more missiles against a civilian plane.
Indeed, the operators inside the Buk could “read” the Boeing 777′s altitude and transponder and could easily identify the civilian plane en route from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur flying at FL300 inside the eastern Ukraine’s airspace.
Why did they mistake a large civilian plane for a smaller Ukrainian Air Force surveillance plane?
Just a matter of poor training?
Iranian defense expert Babak Taghvaee believes the mistake was caused by the fact the Malaysian Boeing 777 was escorted over eastern Ukraine. Taghvaee is always very well informed and an extremely reliable source.
Therefore, after he provided some details about this activity of the Ukrainian Air Force on ACIG forum thread about the war in Ukraine, we contacted him for some more insight.
Here’s what he wrote to us:
“When the Crimea crisis began, the Ukrainian Air Force air command center quickly forward deployed six Su-27s to the Kulbakino AB. Since beginning of the crisis and the Russia intervention, the 831st TAB has the important task to provide air defense as well as security of whole country. Six fully armed Flankers have always been in the sky especially when the other Ukrainian Air Force airplanes such as transporters and attackers like Fulcrums and Rooks were in the East of Ukraine,” explains Taghvaee.
“But when the Su-25M1 was shot down by the Russia Air Force 6969th AB’s MiG-29 on Jul. 16, the situation and condition became more critical than previous days and more Su-27 sorties were conducted to confront Russian MiG-29s. I believe those two Su-27s were not in sky just for standard practice in that day [Jul. 17], I believe they were involved in HAVCAP (High Asset Value Combat Air Patrol) mission sortie in that day.”
In other words: Since the Russian interceptors had downed a Su-25 on the previous days, the Ukrainian escorted all military and civil flights over eastern Ukraine on Jul. 17. Including MH17.
“During the UEFA 2012, the 831st TAB and its Flankers had same role, during those competitions they had duty to escort the airliners in FL330 and other routes in case emergency. They played same role during the Sochi Winter Olympics in Russia. They were airborne and they even escorted a hijacked airplane. They were also ready to provide security of all passenger airplanes over Ukraine. They are now following same procedure and they could protect all of the airplanes over Ukraine in-front of Russians since Jul 16.”
Provided the Su-27s were really escorting or (more likely) watching from their CAP station many, if not all, civil flights over Eastern Ukraine for the first time ever on July 17, in the wake of the downing of the Su-25, the operators inside the Buk may have mistaken the Boeing 777 shadowed by or near two Flankers for a high-value plane of the Ukrainian Air Force.
On their radar screens, the sight of a large plane with two accompanying (or circling in CAP not too far away) fighter jets was completely new and may only mean the Ukrainians were escorting an important plane. And that would be the reason why they downed it without spending too much time analyzing its transponder code and altitude.
[UPDATE 9:05 EDT] Russia's Defense Ministry claims that a Ukrainian warplane flew within three miles of Malaysia flight MH17.
This article originally appeared at The Aviationist. Copyright 2014. Follow The Aviationist on Twitter.
Read more: http://theaviationist.com/2014/0 ... mh17/#ixzz386w5GHxq |
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amansihat posted on 21-7-2014 06:38 PM
kita kena ingat najp pun ada penasihat jugak.bila najp buat senyap play victim,katalah nanti un kena ...
Then x payah menggedik nak lobi kerusi majlis kselamtan PBB...tiap 2 tahun sekali gigih kerah diplomat Msia lobi ke negara2 asing suruh vote Malaysia masuk...
So whats the point dpt kerusi majlis keselamatan? Goyang telur?? Negara pariah pon boleh buat camtu. |
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Nham22 posted on 21-7-2014 09:03 PM
Aku rasa Najib dah letih nak handle isu nie..aku rase die kali ni buat pekak telinga ajela...sbbd ie ...
Najib bukan letih Le.. Dia lembik.. Sesi PC pn baca skrip. Ketua pemberontak Ukraine selambe je ckp spontan.. Dasat gile dia cakap. Sorg2 lak tu dpn wartawan.
Tapi Tgk je kak mah, muka kental je sentiasa.... Last edited by batmana on 21-7-2014 10:05 PM
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Muntz posted on 21-7-2014 09:44 PM
Tak perlu rebrand. Sbb kalau rebrand pun, tapi kalau masih ada tangan2 hantu yg kacau, tak guna ga ...
hahaha..AV41..kelas kau...byk tgn hantu tu yg tak leh nak ckp apa..its so frustating that we know but we cant say anything about it..kalau bukak airline baru mahal..lesen penerbangan baru kena dptkan parliament approval..lagipun aircraft dah ada..tinggal lagi nak tukar cat je, crews,maintenance,safety and engineering dlm MAS tak dinafikan bagus..sbb tu AA suka curi diorg...yg tak bagus management(makan gaji buta)..kdg2 aku pelik Malaysians kutuk MAS bagai tp bila naik flight penuh je..so paham2 je lah sbb apa rugi berjuta2 lemon tu(yu yg org marah)..penat berbuih je ckp..
ummah kokesen tak paham kenapa Malaysians kutuk MAS..yg dikutuk tu management..bahagian lain yg mana ada direct contact dgn passengers okeyh je..aku pun prefer MAS..dekat di hati gitu..rasa welcome sgt..kalau airline lain keras kejung crew diorg..muka mcm baru lepas tertelan biji durian..
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Post time 21-7-2014 09:35 PM
sebab ada otak..guna fikir..bukann simpan dlm peti ais....
