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Author: Truth.8

The Bible mentioned abt Human Spirit(roh) but Muslims unable to explain

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Post time 9-10-2006 01:32 PM | Show all posts
Itulah sebabnya al-Quran tidak ditulis di dalam pelbagai bahasa,dikhuatiri di salahtafsir dan di salah anggap  oleh seseorang.Untuk mengetahui maksudnya yang tepat,seharusnya membaca dan memahami ayat al-Quran itu sendiri.
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 Author| Post time 9-10-2006 01:34 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by digweed at 9-10-2006 01:32 PM
Itulah sebabnya al-Quran tidak ditulis di dalam pelbagai bahasa,dikhuatiri di salahtafsir dan di salah anggap  oleh seseorang.Untuk mengetahui maksudnya yang tepat,seharusnya membaca dan memahami a ...


makna nya ....koran ada sebut yg hati itu adalah akal...bukan kah itu lagi salah tafsir???
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 Author| Post time 9-10-2006 01:36 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by loona at 9-10-2006 01:32 PM


That's wrong sura verse no. I think the web mistakenly put wrong sura at wrong place.

As-Sajda (32:09) should be...
"But He fashioned him in due proportion, and breathed into him somet ...


wrong verses? why people of the Book  like myself have to highlight this to muslims? even the wrong verses on sura 5:51
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Post time 9-10-2006 02:15 PM | Show all posts
hehehehehe................ what a clumsy attack
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 Author| Post time 9-10-2006 02:33 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by i212 at 9-10-2006 02:15 PM
hehehehehe................ what a clumsy attack


which one? the same koran with different verses??
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 Author| Post time 9-10-2006 10:19 PM | Show all posts
muslims stuck as usual. so pitifully & failed so miserably


There is another important difference between animals and human beings. Human beings have a spiritual component to their existence. Not to be confused with the false concept of an immortal soul, this spirit is not conscious of itself but, rather, empowers the physical brain with human intellect. This "spirit in man" or "human spirit" is mentioned in a number of verses in both the Old and New Testaments. Interestingly, both the Hebrew word for spirit, ruach, and its New Testament Greek equivalent, pneuma, also convey the sense of "wind" or "breath." So it would make sense that when God breathed into Adam physical life, he also "spiritually breathed" the human spirit into him. It is this spirit that enables man to have a mind in the image of God's, to make moral choices and to have a genuine relationship with God.


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Post time 10-10-2006 12:51 AM | Show all posts

Spirit all over the body? or in brain only?

'When I breathe My spirit into him prostrate before him." Allah breathed His spirit into Adam and when it reached his head Adam sneezed. The angels said: "Say all praise belongs to Allah." Adam repeated: "All praise belongs to Allah." Allah said to him: "Your Lord has granted you mercy." When the spirit reached his eyes, Adam looked at the fruits of Paradise. When it reached his abdomen Adam felt an appetite for food. He jumped hurriedly before the spirit could reach his legs, so that he could eat from the fruits of Paradise. Allah, therefore, said: Man is created of haste. Surah 21: 37
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Post time 10-10-2006 01:03 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Truth.8 at 9-10-2006 10:19 PM
It is this spirit that enables man to have a mind in the image of God's, to make moral choices and to have a genuine relationship with God.


Sure..spirit enable man's mind to make moral choices, etc. no doubt about it. Without spirit you are dead! so what's the stupidity is all about?
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 Author| Post time 10-10-2006 10:04 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by loona at 10-10-2006 12:51 AM
Spirit all over the body? or in brain only?

'When I breathe My spirit into him prostrate before him." Allah breathed His spirit into Adam and when it reached his head Adam sneezed. The angels said: "Say all praise belongs to Allah." Adam repeated: "All praise belongs to Allah." Allah said to him: "Your Lord has granted you mercy." When the spirit reached his eyes, Adam looked at the fruits of Paradise. When it reached his abdomen Adam felt an appetite for food. He jumped hurriedly before the spirit could reach his legs, so that he could eat from the fruits of Paradise. Allah, therefore, said: Man is created of haste. Surah 21: 37  ...



are u sure this correct verses or u creating to lie here?


21:34 We granted not to any man before thee permanent life (here): if then thou shouldst die, would they live permanently?
  Wama jaAAalna libasharin minqablika alkhulda afa-in mitta fahumu alkhalidoona
   
21:35 Every soul shall have a taste of death: and We test you by evil and by good by way of trial. to Us must ye return.
  Kullu nafsin tha-iqatu almawtiwanablookum bialshsharri waalkhayri fitnatanwa-ilayna turjaAAoona
   
21:36 When the Unbelievers see thee, they treat thee not except with ridicule. "Is this," (they say), "the one who talks of your gods?" and they blaspheme at the mention of (Allah) Most Gracious!
  Wa-itha raaka allatheenakafaroo in yattakhithoonaka illa huzuwan ahathaallathee yathkuru alihatakum wahum bithikrialrrahmani hum kafiroona  
   
21:37 Man is a creature of haste: soon (enough) will I show you My Signs; then ye will not ask Me to hasten them!
  Khuliqa al-insanu min AAajalinsaoreekum ayatee fala tastaAAjiloona
   
21:38 They say: "When will this promise come to pass, if ye are telling the truth?"
  Wayaqooloona mata hathaalwaAAdu in kuntum sadiqeena
   
21:39 If only the Unbelievers knew (the time) when they will not be able to ward off the fire from their faces, nor yet from their backs, and (when) no help can reach them!
  Law yaAAlamu allatheena kafaroo heenala yakuffoona AAan wujoohihimu alnnara walaAAan thuhoorihim wala hum yunsaroona
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 Author| Post time 10-10-2006 11:30 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Truth.8 at 10-10-2006 10:04 AM



are u sure this correct verses or u creating to lie here?


21:34 We granted not to any man before thee permanent life (here): if then thou shouldst die, would they live permanently?
  W ...


still waiting for muslims to explaine why such difference sayings
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 Author| Post time 10-10-2006 02:04 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Truth.8 at 6-10-2006 12:23 PM

That's why some bad faith /or worshipping wrong god easily shaken with demonic spirit which control their mind like going hysterical , mental problem , event to extend barbaric acts


baru cerita pasal histeria, kecoh kawasan kediaman orang2 muslims

kesian betul lah.

HM


Macam Histeria

Oleh Mohd Jamilul Anbia Md Denin, Zaitie Satibi, Nur Asnawi Daud dan Mohd Sabran Md Sani

KUALA LUMPUR: ?color=Red]Macam histeria. Hampir semua penduduk flet menjerit dan lari bertempiaran seolah-olah histeria.



?eadaan menjadi kelam-kabut dan panik hingga ada penduduk yang terjatuh ketika menuruni tangga,? kata Hassan Abu Talib, 43, seorang daripada 1,000 penghuni flet di Seksyen 10, Wangsa Maju di sini, yang bergegar selepas tanah runtuh menjelang waktu berbuka puasa, malam tadi.
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Post time 10-10-2006 03:33 PM | Show all posts
rasanya manusia yang histeria dan meracau tak tentu hala dalam thread ni, Truth8.. :lol
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Post time 10-10-2006 03:38 PM | Show all posts
Saya pun rasa Truth.8 ni huru-hara,kelam-kabut....apa kata kita buat poll...
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Post time 10-10-2006 03:41 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by digweed at 10-10-2006 03:38 PM
Saya pun rasa Truth.8 ni huru-hara,kelam-kabut....apa kata kita buat poll...



tak perlu, membazir bandwidth aje...
confirm semua setuju...
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 Author| Post time 10-10-2006 03:48 PM | Show all posts
.....yet muslims unable to answer and posted faked verses on human spirit.

so pitifully
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Post time 10-10-2006 04:51 PM | Show all posts

another version for truth.8 - related to colour

Originally posted by Truth.8 at 10-10-2006 03:48 PM
.....yet muslims unable to answer and posted faked verses on human spirit.

so pitifully


The story above from Quran & Hadith
reference
http://www.iisca.org/articles/document.jsp?id=69
http://www.masmn.org/documents/Biographies/Prophets/adam.htm
http://www.islamiyyat.com/the_self_and_soul.htm

Below is another story for your answer to colour.

Another version of the story relates that Allah took a handful of the dust of the earth and mixed into it the colors white, black, yellow, and red. That is the reason why men are born different colors. When Allah mixed the dust with water, it turned into potter's clay that makes a sound. It was fermented and had a smell. Iblis passed by, wondering what was going to be made of that clay. From the clay Allah created Adam. He molded his form with His own hands and blew His spirit into him. Adam's body quivered as life was imbued into it. Verily, His Command, when He intends a thing, is only that He says to it, "Be!"- and it is! (Surah 37: 82)
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Post time 10-10-2006 08:25 PM | Show all posts
like i said, the Quran is a book of signs truth...not a book of science.
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Post time 11-10-2006 02:51 PM | Show all posts
Hey T8,

can you elaborate this term,
1) kindness
2) hatred
3) loving
4) caring
5) forgive


its come from where?
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Post time 11-10-2006 03:16 PM | Show all posts
still no answer
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 Author| Post time 11-10-2006 03:32 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by i212 at 11-10-2006 02:51 PM
Hey T8,

can you elaborate this term,
1) kindness
2) hatred
3) loving
4) caring
5) forgive


its come from where?


As usual u divert the topic and comes with silly question. When i do not reply , u called me i am manipulator

so, u still believed that akal in heart??
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