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[SBS] Jang Ok-Jung, Live In Love ~ Kim Tae Hee, Yoo Ah In, Jae Hee - Ver. 2
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ayushuhada04 posted on 15-7-2013 11:16 AM 
aine....dh nama pun gundik...mananya nk kawin.....
klu tk..tkde ler dipanggil gundik.....
ok....gundik tetap gundik selamanya
tapi cam OJ ni jadi queen tapi still tak kawin secara rasmilah ye
no wonder gundik semua bermatian nak anak jadi king
sebab dgn cara macam tu je taraf dorang akan diiktiraf dan dinaikkan pangkat
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WeAiNe posted on 15-7-2013 11:23 AM
ok....gundik tetap gundik selamanya
tapi cam OJ ni jadi queen tapi still tak kawin secara rasmil ...
mcm OJ tu......kawin le kan...
sbb dia nk jadi queen...........
tp CSB tu mmg le tk kawin..
sbb dia tk jadi queen.....
tu le pasal...semua maid beria2 nk jadi gundik king..
nti anak leh naik takhta...klu queen tkder zuriat
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ayushuhada04 posted on 15-7-2013 11:34 AM
mcm OJ tu......kawin le kan...
sbb dia nk jadi queen...........
lega hati tahu OJ kawin rasmi ngan king
choiiiiiiiiiiiiilah dorang ni kan
anak tu bukan sah taraf pun
ini bukan main benci sgt ngan gundik
sekali ambik ko............king tu anak gundik hahahhahahhaa
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WeAiNe posted on 15-7-2013 11:43 AM
lega hati tahu OJ kawin rasmi ngan king
choiiiiiiiiiiiiilah dorang ni kan
anak tu bukan sah tara ...
aah ler aine...
sbb nk jadi queen kan...
kena le rasmi jadi queen...
so mmg OJ sgt2 beruntung le yer.........
yg lelain tu...mcm CSB...untung anak je jadi King...
tp dia ttp sama jer...gundik...
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sorry la kengkawan...baru je khatam drama ni. endingnya tersangat la sedihnya..... tapi overall drama ni mmg sangat best... |
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@makdik2301 @mushroomsup @camrey @ichi @babyface76 @zehra2 @chocolatewaffle
sila ler buat review utk drama JOJ ni...
utk pencalonan drama CARI... |
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@makdik2301
plssssssss review |
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Choi Suk-bin was one of Sukjong’s concubines and the mother of Yeongjo, the twenty-first king of the Joseon Dynasty. In Jang Ok Jung, Lives in Love, we never actually get to see Choi Suk-bin receive her title of “bin," (the highest position as a concubine) and instead, she’s known as Choi Suk-won until the very end.
I know that we never got a scene between Lee Soon and Choi Suk-won where justice is served. I would have wanted to watch her plans of becoming queen be foiled, but no such scene was made. However, we all know that Choi Suk-won was never able to become queen. In the original novel, Choi Suk-bin asks Lee Soon to make her the queen after Queen Inhyeon and Jang Ok Jung, but Sukjong refuses and lays down a new decree.
That decree was made in 1701, after the death of Ok Jung (Jang Hee Bin), stating that “no concubines shall ever become the queen." Since that time, there have been no cases where the concubines became queen. In fact, Jang Hee Bin was the first and last concubine to ever ascend to the position of queen.
Now, whether or not Choi Suk-bin had her eyes set out for the queen’s position in real life, I do not know for sure. I don’t think anyone knows, actually. However, if you think about the situation that Choi Suk-bin was in, it’s plausible. Why? Choi Suk-bin was the victor in history and the only survivor between her, Jang Hee Bin, and Queen Inhyeon. She also had her son, Prince Yeoning (future King Yeongjo). She had enough reason to dream of becoming the queen. However, Choi Suk-bin was never able to become the queen because of the law that Sukjong created. But really, who knows what sort of person she was? Maybe she never dreamed about being queen.
The law was created because of Jang Hee Bin, and Sukjong most likely didn’t want another situation like Jang Hee Bin ever occuring again. So, in some ways, I guess it was a precautionary measure. He learnt his lesson and he would protect the future inheritors of the throne from facing this sort of situation.
Jang Hee Bin was executed for cursing Queen Inhyeon to death because of her jealously and greed for the queen’s position. During this time, they said that there were rumours going around about it. Choi Suk-bin was the one that told Sukjong about these rumours, saying that Jang Hee Bin cursed Inhyeon. Thus, Jang Hee Bin was sentenced to death. However, her death was not only simply that she cursed the queen. There were many political factors to it as well. In some ways, since Jang Hee Bin was from a Southerner faction background; in order to suppress their power, Sukjong made the decision to kill off Ok Jung. He might have also worried that Jang Hee Bin would try to gain more power when her son, Lee Yoon, rose to the throne. Either way, Jang Ok Jung can be seen as a sacrificial lamb of the politics during her time.
Anyways, that’s not the main point. I know in the drama Dong Yi, the love story between Sukjong and Dong Yi is wonderful and heart-warming, but we must remember that that was a drama and there are many fictional aspects to it as well. I do not personally think that Sukjong and Choi Suk-bin’s love was that great, but I do not deny the fact that Sukjong really did like Choi Suk-bin.
Choi Suk-bin was a palace maid from a very low social status (lower than Jang Hee Bin’s). To be specific, she’s well known as being a musuri (lit. water maid). There are also some sources that she was a palace maid in the tailor’s department. However, they say that she entered the palace at the age of 7. She received the favor of Sukjong after Jang Ok Jung was made queen, around 1694.
The relationship between Jang Hee Bin and Choi Suk-bin was bad from the start, and Choi Suk-bin sided with the Western faction. Sukjong knew this and he used Choi Suk-bin to pave the way for a hwan-guk (lit. change of political state), known as the Gap-sul Hwan-guk, to bring back the Western faction and suppress the Southern faction. In that same year, Queen Inhyeon was reinstated as queen and Jang Ok Jung was demoted back to Hee Bin.
Anyways, in 1701, after the death of Jang Ok Jung and Inhyeon, Choi Suk-bin was a likely candidate to become the queen, but she never did. The following year, in 1702, another queen was selected, Queen Inwon. However, in that year, Choi Suk-bin was ordered to be evicted from the palace by Sukjong.
This is a very unusual thing. It is a rule that the king’s concubines were not allowed to leave the palace until after the king had died. However, Choi Suk-bin was ordered to do so. This is could be for several reasons: a) he wanted to protect Choi Suk-bin or b) Choi Suk-bin was greatly ill and was sent away. For the latter though, if she was ill, she should have returned after she gotten better. Instead, she lived outside of the palace for nearly 20 years.
What’s more is that when she left the palace when her son was quite young. Why did Sukjong send her away when her son was not even of age? She was unable to see her son for nine years. When her son, Prince Yeoning, got married in 1711, she thought she might be able to see him now, but Sukjong did not allow it (*note: it is law for princes that are not the crown prince to leave the palace once they get married). The fact that he separated mother and son possibly might suggest that Choi Suk-bin might have made a big mistake that caused Sukjong to be greatly angry with her. Or, perhaps he wanted to keep them separated since Choi Suk-bin’s social class was so low. However, finally, Sukjong allowed her to live with her son and his wife in E-hyun-goong (이현궁).
Choi Suk-bin lived nearly twenty years outside of the palace and Sukjong never acted in a way that he would ever bring her back to the palace. He never looked for her. Choi Suk-bin was abandoned by Sukjong. She died at the age of 48 in 1718. He did not show much emotion; if he loved her as much as Sukjong loved Dong Yi in that drama, then he wouldn’t have been so cold. Despite the fact that she was thrown away by the king, she still had her son by her side until the very end, so I think she would’ve been happy.
So, that was the fate of Choi Suk-bin. She might’ve once been loved by the king, but she was abandoned towards the end. Who knows if she did something wrong that caused Sukjong to be angry? We’re not sure. However, we cannot deny that she was an amazing woman that made her son into a king. King Yeongjo is considered to be a great king as he started the Korean Renaissance in Joseon and had the longest reign.
King Yeongjo gave his mother, Choi Suk-bin, the title of “Hwang Kyeong Suk-bin" after her death. |
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sedih gile ending citer ni tadi... bile baca yg pasal choi suk-bin tu rasanya Raja marah sbb tau dia ade plan utk menyingkirkan Ok Jung.. ermm dlm wikipedia n source from written history semua kata Ok Jung ni kejam la apa la..tapi ingat ..yang menang akan tulis benda yang buruk2 pasal musuh... |
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dah abes dekat onehd. sedih noks ending |
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ismaha posted on 24-7-2013 11:49 AM
hahahahahahah.................. xhabis ko ngn CSB kannnnnn ,
cer bg rizen kuat napa ko ...
biorlah dia....citarasa masing2
ko geng sapa pulok?
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