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tapi aku tak paham pasal rachel tu.apsal batman gi selamatkan two face.memang ade orang dah plan nak bunuh rachel ke |
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Originally posted by MetalFire at 20-7-2008 12:51 PM 
tapi aku tak paham pasal rachel tu.apsal batman gi selamatkan two face.memang ade orang dah plan nak bunuh rachel ke
laaakan ke Joker tipu batman pasal alamat tu. dia switch. tempat rachel diabagi alamat harvey dent. batman nak g selamatkan rachel alih2 adaharvey dent. takkan dia nak tinggal kat situ je kot. memang plan jokernak bunuh rachel sbb nak corruptkan harvey dent tu laaa.
[ Last edited by maberik at 20-7-2008 02:51 PM ] |
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tapi tuh aa kan...
batman terpaksa korbankan imej die sebab harvey dent.
bes gile...  |
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Originally posted by Robab at 20-7-2008 03:24 PM 
tapi tuh aa kan...
batman terpaksa korbankan imej die sebab harvey dent.
bes gile...
haha aku hampir menangis bila cite ni habis. my god.... |
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aku pun dh tgk citer ni..memang best giler..tau2 je dh dekat 3 jam dlm panggung..tak kisahlah pasal rachel tu..mati pun takpe sbb bukan katie holms yg berlakon..mungkin dia nak matikan watak dia..
pasal 2faces tu..nape dia mati?aku ingat dia hidup utk next sequel.. mungkin tak mati lg tu..gimik je..mungkin dia hidup n berpasangan ngan joker utk lawan batman dlm pusingan ketiga..pergh..memang teruja tul aku ngan citer batman ni..kekekeke |
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Reply #217 maberik's post
maberik, thank Heavens you did not shoot me down like fanboys would do. i AM a fangirl. I LOVED Batman begins that aku sanggup tunggu 1/2 jam que up ticket 12.30 malam pada hari kerja. esok pagi aku pergi kerja lagik. sampai camtu punya aku punya devoted kat Batman ni.
aku rasa, TDK berjaya sebab it manages to divide group to love it or hate it. mungkin personality aku tak sesuai untuk batman ni. different folks different strokes lah katakan. tak semua orang suka cadbury chocolate. tak semua suka TDK.
i came in the movie theatres with very high expectations, and unfortunately i wasn't compensated by it. too bad lah.
in my opinion, (everybody's entitled to one kan?), i don't think TDK set a higher bar for summer movies/comic movies. sometimes, something too heavy isn't what at all what people want. contrary to what fanboys think, just because those disagree to the deeper/darker decision to make dark knight, doesn't mean we 'dont' get it. i get all the points. dah kena explained. but like i said, it was CONTRIVED. it seemed FORCED. some things, when you want to make a point, there's no need explanation. many movies have managed to do this, SUCCESSFULLY making the audience 'get' the movie without the need for explanation. this is indeed very, very hard thing to do. perhaps that's why some people 'don't' get ligheter movies because they manage to make you NOT think about the message that they want to sampaikan. sebab obviously dia dah sampaikan very, very subtlely. Filem filem simple, cara penyampain sangat simple, sampai orang TERUS get it. i am in the software/art business, and i throughout my career, i appreciate simplicity, sebab simplicity adalah something yang amat amat teramat sangat susah nak buat.
anyway, ini adalah setakat point of view sahaja kan? keterbukaan minda seseorang itu adalah apabila dia boleh melihat satu benda itu dalam angle angle berbeza. there's no one way street sahaja. 
satu lagi aku tak agree ialah, kasih rachel dawes. dalam cerita TDK, unfortunately dia tak portray kasih hati rachel dengan penuh keikhlasan whether dia kasih terhadap bruce ataupun harvey dent. this was done with ambiguity although it is an important part of the story that buat dia turn later in the end.
on a lighter note, i absolutely hate christian bale's voice masa dia jadi batman. eugrh... yuckies.
i came out of the theatre feeling'what'?
to you fans out there, takpe, TDK has hit the box office! |
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Reply #228 merigigi's post
u got a point there about the film's lack of subtlety (point chaos dan moral ambiguity yg diulang2). yeah i am all for subtlety in films(sbb tu aku benci movie2 self-righteous mcm Crash). but still, ayat-ayat dia sungguh power membuatkan aku tak kisah langsung. bg aku memang ada point2 dia yg agak 'blatant', tp masih ada jugak yg subtle(bagi aku lah kan) mcm parallelism dgn US's 'war on terror', dan coin two-face yg represent side Batman dan side Joker. and there's several more little details that are not visible in my first viewing. i suggest u give it another chance (it worked for my friend who like you, was initially less than enthusiastic). tontonan kali ke-2 aku pun lebih rewarding dpd kali pertama. byk 'puzzle' yg fits perfectly lps tontonan semula.
but ultimately mmg different ppl different strokes lah kan. at least kau mmg tau apa isi TDK ni, cuma tak berkenan je dgn route filem ni. bg aku, aku amat appreciate dgn apa yg Nolan dah buat dgn TDK ni. dia boleh je stick to tradition(simple good vs evil summer fare) and still the movie would make a lot of money. tp dia berani amik risiko nak buat sesuatu yg unique. it's both very faithful to the source material, and expands it. maybe itu sesuatu yg ko rasa mcm flaw lah, sbb macam banyak sangat idea yg dia sumbatkan dalam satu movie ni. so out of 10 berapa rating kau bagi?
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ok...xpe...nk kna tgk movie nie...kat imdb siap bagi 9.7/10... |
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banyaknye spoiler.. aku baru nak g tgk rabu ni.. |
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Pak cik dah tgk Dark Knight 2 kali dan pemahaman pak cik bertambah lepas tgk kali kedua. Bagi aku filem Batman kali ni betul-betul dapat menangkap "jiwa" watak-watak utama.
Pak cik bagi 10/10!
Ya aku setuju dgn pendapat maberik. Babak akhir mmg paling menyentuh perasaan! Tiada siapa sangka begitu akhirnya....
Oh ye! Saje nak kongsi....Dulu aku pernah terbaca yang Nolan suka mengarah filem berdasarkan tema "FEAR - KETAKUTAN" . Kali ini dalam Dark Knight aku masih cuba kaitkan dengan tema yang sama iaitu "Fear". Babak2 anarki yg ditimbulkan oleh Joker menangkap tema "FEAR" . Walaupun Batman menggunakan Ketakutan sebagai satu agen utk menentang Jenayah, Joker pula menggunakan untuk mewujudkan suasana anarki. Lihat saja apa yg terjadi bila Joker membuat ujikajinya terhadap tebusan2 tu...
Oh ye satu perkara yg aku perasan adegan kejar mengejar di jalan raya tu tak diiringi dengan muzik latar. Macam tgk 2001:Space odyssey plak! |
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Aku dah tengok... finally filem yang aku tunggu2.. sebab kebanyakkan filem 2008 ni tak berapa "menangkap"
Watak mendiang heath ledger memang superb.... |
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rachel mati sebab nak bagi love interest bruce wayne muncul dalam sequel ke 3 - selina kyle aka catwoman.... |
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Originally posted by maberik at 20-7-2008 03:33 PM 
haha aku hampir menangis bila cite ni habis. my god....
haha.. aku pun sedih and nak nangis masa part last tu.. (malu plak aku nak admit)...
walaupun ramai kata last half and hour tu mcm spoil the whole movie, aku rasa best plak part last2 tu... |
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Reply #235 buiscasey's post
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in the end batman is beaten and broken. mana ada cite yg hero dia kalah(arguably)? hebat |
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This movie is awesome, Health Ledger's performance as joker really gives me the creeps
but i think most of you will agree that Rachel should be played by someone that is way hotter
than Maggie, maybe Reese Witherspoon or anybody that is a beautiful movie Star
Maggie Gallengher is just so plain, old looking face and her posture sucks, cuz she hunch!
Do y'all agree with me on this? |
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baru tgk smalam....best gile watak joker...mmg psycho gile mamat tuee.......sume watak best...cuma watak heroin kureng sket.... |
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Reply #238 kecibung_abang's post
ahaha... aah. maggie tak cun sgt. agak pelik sbb jd rebutan 2 lelaki yg ensem.
katie holmes cntik sket, tp lakonan lak kureng.
maggie lakonan ok, tp tk cntik sgt lak. 
pstu maggie ni mcm budak2 la. |
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Post time 20-7-2008 12:51 PM
tp bila dia patah hati sbb rachel mati dan senang2 je dipengaruhi joker..owhh i can't accept it..overall aku puas tgk TDK..the best movie for 2008..lepas ni x-fles dgn the mummy plak
