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Isu Lynas-Loji Lynas sedia beroperasi dalam tempoh tiga minggu- MCA Bantah Kilan
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Utusan Melayu cakap 5ribu.. harakah cakap 20 ribu.
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Tak baca ke posting seorg MOD dlm thread ni kata : YANG PENTING DUIT/PEMBANGUNAN EKONOMI... Pedu ...
Manami Post at 27-2-2012 12:35 
itulah aku pelik... malaysia dah berpengalaman bagaimana teruk dan effect dari kebocoran kilang rare earth dulu di bukit merah... tak nak jadi pedoman rakyat malaysia majoriti melayu2 nih... pemimpin atasan mmg laa mereka nak jalankan kerana pengetahuan dari dalaman kuarga PM dan raja pemerintah sendiri ada share dari kilang ini.. jadi mereka pikirkan keuntungan mereka...
tapi rakyat yg taksub membabi buta nih apa faedah yg mereka dapat dari kilang ini..?? boleh membawa keuntungan kepada negara berjumlah beratus bilion untuk rakyat malaysia ker..?? mereka dapat share atau faedah dari kilang ini ker..??
pernahkah kita protes bila pelabur membuka kilang di malaysia selama ini.. tetapi kenapa kilang ini kita bantah hebat.. dan bila dilihat semacam ada special protection dari gomen terhadap kilang nih..?? kenapa...
bangsa cina lebih celik ilmu tentang bahayanya kilang nih.. tapi ummah melayu terus buta tuli untuk membuka minda mereka tentang kesan buruk kilang ni...
aloo ummah melayu yg kuhnun pertahankan melayu.. ketuatnan melayu... di pahang majoriti melayu sangat tinggi berbanding kaum2 lain... 70% adalah banga melayu di pahang.. tak kesian ker kat bangsa sendiri kemudian hari nanti...
sekarang dengar pakar2 kerajaan mmg laa takder kesan dan selamat, sebab belum pun bermula operasi.. masih dalam pembinaan... tapi bila dah beroperasi nanti.. bila kesan menjalar kepada rakyat malaysia.. aku nak rakyat yg membuta tuli menyokong nih akan bawak dosa2 mereka hingga akhirat... jawablah nanti atas kesengsaraan rakyat lain.. |
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kt chernobyl,gomen russia pun ckp plant nuklear tu selamat..meletup gak..kt india pun sama,gomen cakap selamat tp still eksiden gakkkk..kat fukushima tu pun gomen jepun kata plant tu kukuh..bocor gakkkk..kalo tgk m'sia dlm hal2 maintenance nih,kemungkinan berlaku eksiden adalah sgt tinggi! |
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ghost rider pun join |
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Reply 243# totokreturn
Pentaksub2 kat CI ni dah dikaburi mata dgn $$$ yg belum tentu masok ke kantung mereka.. 
The Fear of a Toxic Rerun Rahman Roslan for The New York Times
The project in Malaysia would be the first rare earth processing plant in nearly three decades to be finished outside China.
By KEITH BRADSHER
Published: June 29, 2011
KUANTAN, Malaysia — A $230 million refinery being built here in an effort to break China’s global chokehold on rare earth metals is plagued by environmentally hazardous construction and design problems, according to internal memos and current and former engineers on the project.
ReutersProtesters at the rare earth plant in Malaysia.
The plant, which would be the world’s biggest refinery for rare earths — metals crucial to the manufacture of a wide range of technologies including smartphones, smart bombs and hybrid cars — has also become the target of protesters who fear that the plant will leak radioactive and toxic materials into the water table.
Weekly demonstrations have drawn crowds since March, and someone recently threw gasoline fire bombs at the gated home of a senior project manager.
Some risks had been expected from the plant, which would refine rare earth ores into manufacturing-grade materials. Although rare earths are not radioactive, in nature they are usually found mixed with thorium — which is.
That is why the Lynas Corporation, an Australian company, promised three years ago to take special precautions when it secured the Malaysian government’s permission to build the sprawling complex here on 250 acres of reclaimed tropical swampland. It would be the first rare earth processing plant in nearly three decades to be finished outside China, where barely regulated factories have left vast toxic and radioactive waste sites.
Lynas has an incentive to finish the refinery quickly. Export restrictions by China in the last year have caused global shortages of rare earths and soaring prices. But other companies are scrambling to open new refineries in the United States, Mongolia, Vietnam and India by the end of 2013, which could cause rare earth prices to tumble.
Lynas officials contend that the refinery being built here is safe and up to industry standards, and say that they are working with its contractors to resolve their concerns.
“All parties are in agreement that it is normal course of business in any construction project for technical construction queries to be raised and then resolved to relevant international standards during the course of project construction,” wrote Matthew James, an executive vice president of Lynas, in an e-mail on Wednesday night.
The International Atomic Energy Agency issued a report Thursday that said the Lynas project’s overall design and planned operations procedures met international standards. The report did not examine construction details or engineering decisions involved in turning the design into a building; a program for the report’s authors showed that they were shown around the big site in an hour.
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Nicholas Curtis, the executive chairman of Lynas, strongly denied at a press conference in Kuala Lumpur on Thursday that the refinery had any construction problems. He said that there were no more than routine discussions among engineers about technical questions.
But the construction and design may have serious flaws, according to the engineers, who also provided memos, e-mail messages and photos from Lynas and its contractors. The engineers said they felt a professional duty to voice their safety concerns, but insisted on anonymity to avoid the risk of becoming industry outcasts.
The problems they detail include structural cracks, air pockets and leaks in many of the concrete shells for 70 containment tanks, some of which are larger than double-decker buses. Ore mined deep in the Australian desert and shipped to Malaysia would be mixed with powerful acids to make a slightly radioactive slurry that would be pumped through the tanks, with operating temperatures of about 200 degrees Fahrenheit.
The engineers also say that almost all of the steel piping ordered for the plant is made from standard steel, which they describe as not suited for the corrosive, abrasive slurry. Rare earth refineries in other countries make heavy use of costlier stainless steel or steel piping with ceramic or rubber liners.
The engineers also say that the concrete tanks were built using conventional concrete, not the much costlier polymer concrete mixed with plastic that is widely used in refineries in the West to reduce the chance of cracks.
Documents show that Lynas and its construction management contractor, UGL Ltd. of Australia, have argued with their contractors that the cracks and moisture in the concrete containment walls are not a critical problem.
Memos also show that Lynas and UGL have pressed a Malaysian contractor, Cradotex, to proceed with the installation of watertight fiberglass liners designed for the containment tanks without fixing the moisture problem and with limited fixes to the walls. But Cradotex has resisted.
“These issues have the potential to cause the plants critical failure in operation,” Peter Wan, the general manager of Cradotex, said in a June 20 memo. “More critically the toxic, corrosive and radioactive nature of the materials being leached in these tanks, should they leak, will most definitely create a contamination issue.”
Mr. Wan said in a telephone interview Tuesday that he believed Lynas and UGL would be able to fix the moisture problem but that he did not know what method the companies might choose to accomplish this.
The fiberglass liners are made by AkzoNobel of Amsterdam, one of the world’s largest chemical companies. AkzoNobel says it, too, worries about the rising moisture.
“We will not certify or even consider the use of our coatings if this problem can’t be fixed,” Tim van der Zanden, AkzoNobel’s top spokesman in Amsterdam, wrote on Monday night in an e-mail reply to questions.
Memos show that the refinery’s concrete foundations were built without a thin layer of plastic that might prevent the concrete pilings from drawing moisture from the reclaimed swampland underneath. The site is located just inland from a coastal mangrove forest, and several miles up a river that flows out to the sea past an impoverished fishing village.
An engineer involved in the project said that the blueprints called for the plastic waterproofing but that he was ordered to omit it, to save money. The plastic costs $1.60 a square foot, he said.
Lynas disputes that the design ever called for using the plastic.
Nicholas Curtis, the executive chairman of Lynas, said in a telephone interview from Sydney on Monday that the project here met local environmental standards and that he believed those were consistent with international standards. “I have complete confidence in the Malaysian environmental standards and our ability to meet the requirements,” he said.
Mr. James, the Lynas executive vice president, said in a separate telephone interview from Sydney on Monday that the steel piping used in the plant was carefully engineered and would not pose problems. On the record, he declined to discuss issues with the concrete except to deny that rising moisture was a problem and to say that the tanks had been engineered to meet all safety standards.
In a second interview, on Tuesday, Mr. James said the company had not cut corners. “Lynas is well funded,” he said. “We would never compromise our standards for a cost savings.”
UGL declined to comment, citing a corporate policy of not discussing its customers’ construction projects.
Lynas started the project here three years ago, but had barely begun when it ran short of money during the global financial crisis. The company resumed the project last year after Chinese export restrictions on rare earths prompted banks and multinational users of the materials to offer generous financing.
Malaysia had reason to be cautious in allowing Lynas to build the plant. Its last rare earth refinery, operated by the Japanese company Mitsubishi Chemical, is now one of Asia’s largest radioactive waste cleanup sites. That plant, on the other side of the Malay peninsula, closed in 1992 after years of sometimes violent demonstrations by citizens.
Despite the potential hazards, the Malaysian government was eager for investment by Lynas, even offering a 12-year tax holiday. :@ The project is Australia’s largest investment in Malaysia, intended to produce $1.7 billion a year in rare earths, or nearly 1 percent of Malaysia’s entire economic output. Lynas agreed to pay 0.05 percent of the plant’s revenue each year to the Malaysian Atomic Energy Licensing Board for radiation research.
Protests against the plant started in Malaysia after an article on Lynas’s project was published in The New York Times in early March.
Although Lynas has forecast repeatedly in recent months that it will start feeding ore into kilns by the end of September, engineers here said that it would take nine more months to install electrical wiring. They also said that pipe shipments were far behind schedule because of a six-month delay in ordering.
Mr. James insisted on Monday that the project remained on schedule, but he cautioned that Lynas was waiting to see whether the I.A.E.A. panel recommended any changes.
http://www.perthnow.com.au/business/lynas-says-new-malaysia-conditions-wont-cause-massive-plant-delays/story-e6frg2r3-1226085072614
Belum function lagi dah macam2 complaint dpd engineer depa sendiri.. Bagi pentaksub2 ni yg penting kalau dah NAJIB cakap selamat tu, selamat lah .. DUIT beb DUIT.. Tapi offer 12 tahun TAX FREE tuuuu~ Sapa yg vangang nih?? Mesia ke Oz???  |
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Belum function lagi dah macam2 complaint dpd engineer depa sendiri.. Bagi pentaksub2 ni yg pent ...
Manami Post at 27-2-2012 13:14
najib cakap apa2 pun.. sebab kuarga dia dan raja ada share dalam projek nih... tapi aku pelik pada pencacai2 UMNO nih macam langsung tak berotak mereka yg tak dapat apa2 satu sen pun, dok gigih telan air liur najib percaya dan sujud macam sujud kat tuhan jerk...
tgk demo.. bukan pembangkang yg demo.. greenpeace pun ada, MCA pun ada.. ini soal keselamatan rakyat malaysia, bukan pahang ajer... dorang takleh pikir ker..?? macam nih aku sanggup doa bila operasi nanti.. biarlah anak2 mereka yg dok sokong lynas nih akan terima kesan dari kilang nih... baru mereka tahu langit tinggi rendah dan menyesal kemudian tak berguna hasil dari kebodohan mereka sendiri...
para pemimpin nih dah kaut untung.. bila bocor dah tak kisah.. anytime bleh angkut anak beranak, kaum kuarga mereka semua lari ke oversea.... tapi pencacai2 yg bangang nih nak lari kemana..?? hadap la radiasi tuh nanti...
kesan ekonomi dan perniagaan di pahang pun selepas nih akan jatuh merudum... |
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Laaa.... kan haku dok tanya tadi.. ada ke yg BANTAH KILANG GARDENIA ni weh terutama pendud ...
Manami Post at 27-2-2012 12:19 
Kat sebelah kilang tu ada ke rumah orang? Sebab tu aku tanya ko...ko suka ke duduk seblah kilang, tak kira la kilang apa? |
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tengok begitu ramai yg berkumpul tok nan musti terkujat2 dalam tidur dia malam tadi... hehe |
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dah terima asap...
radioaktif pon wajib kene terima skali...
atira Post at 27-2-2012 12:22
Ah bila aku kata camtu mula la......
Ah, politicians macam tu le....bila satu2 isu tu orang ramai concerned baru dia pun terhegeh2 nak join...kalau orang buat dekkk ajer dia pun sama buat dekk aje.... |
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REPORT from "DAIWA CAPITAL MARKETS" assessment on LYNAS plant to the Corporation after visiting the plant in Pahang:
"Parts of the Lynas plant were flooded on the day of my visit (13 January).
The plant has yet to be completed.
The plant is built on swamp land, which local residents say floods easily.
It is also situated close to the Balok River, where local fishermen go about their work"
http://asiaresearch.daiwacm.com/eg/cgi-bin/files/Lost&Found120117.pdf
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[quote]Utusan Melayu cakap 5ribu.. harakah cakap 20 ribu.
tak habis2 utusan melayu ni membuat penafian..dn menipu pembaca... |
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Reply 251# alphawolf
Kan MP Fuziah tu lama dah join aktivist menetang Lynas ni? Depa pon dpd dulu dah hi-lite kat Parlimen.. |
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Kat sebelah kilang tu ada ke rumah orang? Sebab tu aku tanya ko...ko suka ke duduk seblah kilang ...
alphawolf Post at 27-2-2012 13:29 
Dah si Boroi tu YAKIN bebenor kilang Lynas tu SELAMAT ikot kata si Najib, tu yg haku soh dia pi pacak rumah kat sebelah tu.. Atau paling2 pon pi pindah dok kat area Gebeng nun.. kat Gebeng nun xde penduduk kah? Sekitar Lynas tu xde makhluk hidop kah? Cer pi check.. Ntah2 ada penempatan penduduk org asli kat situ.. tu kata, kalay dah YAKIN sgt LYNAS tus elamat, pilah dok situ BUKTIKAN kat lelain nih... Org Gebeng sendiri xmo... Tu yg haku soh si Boroi nun dan kalau boleh dgn ko ko sekali pi dok situ.. Jadik guinea-pig jap... |
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aku rase separuh dari org yg datang menentang ni isap rokok dan merokok di tempat awam dan membahayakan nyawa org lain...... |
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aku rase separuh dari org yg datang menentang ni isap rokok dan merokok di tempat awam dan membahaya ...
True-X Post at 27-2-2012 13:54 
Atas "rasional" yang sama orang2 yg menghisap rokok harus dihalang dari menyertai kempen keselamatan jalanraya, kempen breastfeeding, kempen amalan bersenam, kempen kurangkan penggunaan gula dan sebagainya  |
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Atas "rasional" yang sama orang2 yg menghisap rokok harus dihalang dari menyertai kempen kese ...
gabanzack Post at 27-2-2012 13:57
up to the person.... teda paksaan..... |
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dan all smartfon ade nadir bumi.. hehehhe |
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Post time 27-2-2012 12:35 PM
