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mashimaru83 posted on 3-5-2013 05:56 PM 
Don't forget to quote the actual Biblical verse. Thank you.
The name, Lucifer, means 'day star,' or 'son of the morning.' Many recognize it as an alternate name of Satan, the fallen angel. But prior to his downfall, Lucifer was a magnificent being with a unique ministry. Unfortunately, pride overtook his heart, and sin cost him everything. When teaching on these serious topics such as Satan and sin,
Lucifer is one of three archangels mentioned in Scripture. He was created by God just as all angels were, but his role was different from the other angelic hosts. Lucifer was referred to as the 'covering angel.' Just as the cherubim covered the mercy seat of the Ark of the Covenant, Lucifer was established by God to be the angel of worship, one whose ministry surrounded the heart of heaven. Lucifer was created to dwell eternally in the throne room of heaven, in the very presence of God (Ezekiel 28:14).
According to Ezekiel 28:13, a probable reference to Lucifer, we learn that he is an amazing being to behold: "You were the seal of perfection, full of wisdom and perfect in beauty. You were in Eden, the garden of God; every precious stone was your covering: the sardius, topaz, and diamond, beryl, onyx, and jasper, sapphire, turquoise, and emerald with gold. The workmanship of your timbrels and pipes was prepared for you on the day you were created."
To dwell in the awesome presence of a perfect and holy God, Lucifer had to be perfect. There was nothing ordinary or plain about his appearance. Adorned with gold and precious stones, he truly fit the name, 'Son of the Morning.' He was a step above the other angels, not only in appearance but also in intellect. Lucifer's wisdom far exceeded that of other angelic beings. He understood the ways of God.
But Lucifer's splendor and beauty did not last forever. While ministering, he began to consider his own position of prominence. Lucifer became prideful, believing that he deserved more than what he already had. He wanted to become like the Most High.
Isaiah 14 reveals the fall of Lucifer from the heights of heaven, which resulted in his status as the creature that he is today:
"How you are fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning...For you have said in your heart: 'I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God; I will also sit on the mount of the congregation on the farthest sides of the north; I will ascend above the heights of the clouds, I will be like the Most High.'"
Lucifer had wisdom, beauty, ability, perfection, and yet he wanted more; he wanted to be worshiped like God. But God does not share His glory, nor does He permit another to receive worship. So before Lucifer had a chance to make his move, he was removed from the presence of God. Cast out of heaven like a bolt of lightning, Lucifer was stripped of his beauty, his position, and his rights to heaven. Satan's constant attempt ever since has been to oppose the mighty plan of God. He even attempted tempt Jesus to sin and worship him.
Lucifer's name, 'son of the morning,' was given to a far more deserving individual, the Son of God. Jesus Christ is called the 'Bright and Morning Star' (Revelation 22:16). Today, Jesus is seated at the right hand of God, dwelling in the presence of the Almighty. Christ's words hold true, even in the account of Satan: "Whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted" (Matthew 23:12). The subject of Satan is not a pleasant one. Satan's attempt to control this world system is nothing to take lightly. When you proclaim the Word and preach Christ, you must do so with utmost accuracy, power, and clarity
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Truth.8 posted on 3-5-2013 06:03 PM
The name, Lucifer, means 'day star,' or 'son of the morning.' Many recognize it as an alternate na ...
So, which part of the Bible that stated that death was created by Satan?
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mashimaru83 posted on 3-5-2013 06:12 PM
So, which part of the Bible that stated that death was created by Satan?
did i says that??
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Truth.8 posted on 3-5-2013 06:15 PM
did i says that??
No, you didn't but @wkk5159 did. Is he wrong or you guys just don't agree on each other?
wkk5159 post #234
Manusia ciptaan Tuhan pun mampu untuk mencipta kehidupan artificial seperti teknik bioteknologi cloning yang terkini. Syaitan yang berkuasa berjuta kali kanda dari manusia mengapa tidak mampu untuk mncipta kematian ??? Pakailah minda yang dikurnia Tuhan wahai muslim.
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mashimaru83 posted on 7-5-2013 08:34 PM
No, you didn't but @wkk5159 did. Is he wrong or you guys just don't agree on each other?
before you pin point finger at others...it better you correct your followers of islam in shia and shit.....who killed each others and burning mosque
we Bible reading peoples do not burn church or killed each others...mayb long times ago got lah now no more...muslims does it every now and than...
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Truth.8 posted on 7-5-2013 10:21 PM
before you pin point finger at others...it better you correct your followers of islam in shia and ...
Instead of jumping around, I suggest that you deal with one issue at a time. Please answer my question accordingly.
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mashimaru83 posted on 7-5-2013 11:24 PM
Instead of jumping around, I suggest that you deal with one issue at a time. Please answer my qu ...
hmmmm...I speeclesssssssssssssss.....
...because there is lot of mess in ur faith which killing amoung themselves and here we a hyprocrite asking for an answer....now, how shall I response??? oh wait a minute...I have advise for u:
Matthew 7:1 "Do not judge, or you too will be judged.
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@Truth.8, if you cannot answer the question, be a good Christian and admit that you do not know. stop diverting.
Can you or can you NOT answer mashimaru's question? |
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Truth.8 posted on 8-5-2013 01:37 PM
hmmmm...I speeclesssssssssssssss.....
...because there is lot of mess in ur faith which killing ... Truth.8:
hmmmm...I speeclesssssssssssssss.....
...because there is lot of mess in ur faith which killing amoung themselves and here we a hyprocrite asking for an answer....now, how shall I response??? oh wait a minute...I have advise for u:
Matthew 7:1 "Do not judge, or you too will be judged.
Thanks for the advise. If you notice, I didn't judge you in my last 2 posts, but, I was asking few questions to you. So, I'm not sure what are you trying to convey in relation to above verse. Anyway, kindly answer my previous questions accordingly.
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mashimaru83 posted on 8-5-2013 04:46 PM
Thanks for the advise. If you notice, I didn't judge you in my last 2 posts, but, I was asking f ... Thanks for the advise. If you notice, I didn't judge you in my last 2 posts, but, I was asking few questions to you. So, I'm not sure what are you trying to convey in relation to above verse. Anyway, kindly answer my previous questions accordingly.
hello serpent ...u did wrote that why both of us have differences....
so, i paste the verses...
please u go and clean up the mess first .
the recent news today::
16 killed in Pakistan bomb blast A bomb blast has killed at least 16 people at an election campaign rally held by a pro-Taliban party in north-west Pakistan. Published: Mon, May 6, 2013
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so there is thrend and evil done by muslims and muslims every now an than....
islam is peace.....hhahhahahah
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Truth.8 posted on 8-5-2013 10:40 PM
hello serpent ...u did wrote that why both of us have differences....
so, i paste the verses. ...
Truth.8:
hello serpent ...u did wrote that why both of us have differences....
so, i paste the verses...
please u go and clean up the mess first .
the recent news today::
16 killed in Pakistan bomb blast A bomb blast has killed at least 16 people at an election campaign rally held by a pro-Taliban party in north-west Pakistan. Published: Mon, May 6, 2013
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so there is thrend and evil done by muslims and muslims every now an than....
islam is peace.....hhahhahahah
You were quoting my statement from other thread which has nothing to do with my questions. Please stick yourself to the current discussion. Kindly answer the questions sincerely so that we can move the discussion forward. Thank you.
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mashimaru83 posted on 9-5-2013 09:22 AM
You were quoting my statement from other thread which has nothing to do with my questions. Ple ...
go clean up the mess in your faith because there are lot of loop holes
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so Truth.8 is not being a 'Christian". He doesn't follow the teachings of the Bible. In fact, he's trying to run away from the question by diverting and attacking us. He went as far as calling @mashimaru83 a serpent.
My Christian brothers, beware of @Truth.8. He's a wolf in a sheep's clothing, destroying Christian's good name by provoking Muslims. |
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gunblade712 posted on 10-5-2013 12:36 PM
so Truth.8 is not being a 'Christian". He doesn't follow the teachings of the Bible. In fact, he's t ... My Christian brothers, beware of @Truth.8. He's a wolf in a sheep's clothing, destroying Christian's good name by provoking Muslims.
me with sheep clothing....??
me no going around hijacked plan , bomb here and there...me do not burn mosques and etc...
now we know who is wolf in sheep clothing...
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Truth.8 posted on 10-5-2013 10:13 AM
go clean up the mess in your faith because there are lot of loop holes
Be fair and answer my question first.
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mashimaru83 posted on 10-5-2013 07:49 PM
Be fair and answer my question first.
ok...before that....u mind telling why ur muslim friend by the name of zakumis says islam it satu perniagaan??
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Truth.8 posted on 10-5-2013 10:26 PM
ok...before that....u mind telling why ur muslim friend by the name of zakumis says islam it satu ...
I don't know what kind of discussion you were having with him. Is there any reason not to ask him directly? I certainly cannot answer on behalf of him since I don't know what the discussion is all about.
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mashimaru83 posted on 10-5-2013 10:50 PM
I don't know what kind of discussion you were having with him. Is there any reason not to ask him ... I don't know what kind of discussion you were having with him. Is there any reason not to ask him directly? I certainly cannot answer on behalf of him since I don't know what the discussion is all about.
me too, I don't know what kind of discussion you were having with him on satan create dead. is there any reason not to ask him directly?? I certainly cannot answer on behalf of him since I don't know what the discussion is all about.
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Truth.8 posted on 10-5-2013 11:42 PM
me too, I don't know what kind of discussion you were having with him on satan create dead. is ...
Unfortunately it only shows that you just want to run away from the questions. Allow me to explain the situation:
Truth.8
ok...before that....u mind telling why ur muslim friend by the name of zakumis says islam it satu perniagaan??
I don't see 'zakumis says islam it satu perniagaan' in this thread. It's probably from the other thread, but like I said earlier, don't jump around, let's deal with one issue at a time.
Truth.8:
me too, I don't know what kind of discussion you were having with him on satan create dead. is there any reason not to ask him directly?? I certainly cannot answer on behalf of him since I don't know what the discussion is all about.
Unfortunately you were in the discussion since page 1.
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mashimaru83 posted on 11-5-2013 04:51 AM
Unfortunately it only shows that you just want to run away from the questions. Allow me to explain ...
am i running away? surly not....I'm responding to all your threads but you seem not being fair ....you should try be more fair and equal....
I don't see 'zakumis says islam it satu perniagaan' in this thread. It's probably from the other thread, but like I said earlier, don't jump around, let's deal with one issue at a time.
yes , very true but it doesn't matter since both of you share same book called quran...so, i am little puzzle or simple words curious to know why islam is based on business??? my faith is not base on business rather it is sprititual journey to know GOD and beings good human in this earth.....
Unfortunately you were in the discussion since page 1.
yes true...it be wise if u ask the person utter such statments...i m sure you more matured enough to know that...
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