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[Dunia] Keputusan Perancis haramkan pemakaian tudung kekal

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Post time 29-11-2015 04:01 AM | Show all posts
Maideen. replied at 29-11-2015 02:51 AM
Tapi Maideen rasa masih ada harapan untuk Islam kerana adanya forumner seperti ginbug tu.  Orang ...

Ye tepatttt sekaliii. Satu lg ummah kita kejayaan tu diukurr dr segi ketinggian pendidikan, kerjaya yg hebat, rmh bsr n keta hebattt. Padahalll kejayaan juga blh diukurr dgn methodd lain spt kehidupan yg membahagiakan n kepuasan dpt melakukan perkara yg kita suka. Contohh seseorg tu memilih kerjaya sbg tukang cat sbb dia suka catttt, dia nak buat sesuatu yg dia suka...walaupun pd sesetengah golongan dia maybe tak berjaya ikut standard piawaian dorg tp sebenarnya kejayaan dia adalah mempunyai kerjaya yg dia suka sgt n tidak menjadi hamba kpd 'standard kejayaan' yg ditetapkan oleh manusia yg mengejarrr nama, status social, duit dll sbg pengukurrr kejayaan.

Golongan yg mendabikk dada psl agama ni hanya tarnishh imej agama tu sendiri, bukan represent yg baikk. Hrp sedarrrrn dirii.
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Post time 29-11-2015 04:04 AM | Show all posts
mbhcsf replied at 29-11-2015 03:44 AM
i nak tanya, kenapeawak tak tolong kawan awak tu tafsir?

Hi mmg moduss operandii gengg2 lobainita ni kalo nak coverr malu apa2 tanya kat org soalan balik ke?
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Post time 29-11-2015 04:09 AM | Show all posts
Maideen. replied at 29-11-2015 03:33 AM
Sundri tanya (macam ini ruangan soal jawab - aku tanya ko musti jawab taww) dan sundri buat kesimp ...

Hahaha.....gelakkk gulinnn baca ni Maideen oiiii
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Post time 29-11-2015 04:14 AM | Show all posts
Eloklah dua dua lobainitasss kaki belitt n putarrr alamm bertagteammm....dua2 pun sgt memerlukannn eachh otherr sgtt skrgg....semoga rasa kuat bergantung antara satu sama lain
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Post time 29-11-2015 05:34 AM | Show all posts
i pun silent reader jer tapi saje log in sebab tergelak terguling tgk kebodohan nyata dua ekor lobainita  terrlondeh teruk
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Post time 29-11-2015 06:10 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
katowjo replied at 29-11-2015 05:34 AM
i pun silent reader jer tapi saje log in sebab tergelak terguling tgk kebodohan nyata dua ekor lobai ...

Apa yg terlondehnyer?


Sibuk Gelakkan kan org lupa yg kain sendiri yg terlondeh yer?

Gigihnya nak log in semata nak komen tu jer?
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Post time 29-11-2015 06:13 AM | Show all posts
Maideen. replied at 29-11-2015 12:59 AM
Kekunun sujud sukorrr macam hat dia saja yang betul....

Macam aurat lah jugak.....berlagak m ...
Maideen
Anyway itu belum lagi dia diberitahu bahawa Imam Shafie berpegang bahawa aurat untuk wanita hamba ialah menutop dari pusat sehingga lutut macam lelaki termasuk semasa sembahyang. (selalunya bila pakar aurat dah hilang takajutnya bila diberitahu hal ini, mereka hanya mampu berkata "Sekarang mana ada "wanita hamba" lagi!" Prrrrrrrrrpfffftght )
Boleh saya melihat reference/buktinya?
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Post time 29-11-2015 06:16 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Dah lama duk lam foru ni.me nampak...

Puak ni selalu claim..konon dalam islam..atau masa dorg belajar agama dulu..tanya soalan je kena marah..tak boleh dipersoalkan lansung..kononnya ostad ustajah dorg paksa dorg suruh ikut je tanpa banyak soal....


Tapi bila kepercayaan mereka pulak disoal..sorang2 mengelinjan meroyan tuduh orang macam2 .. hahahahaha..... mereka juga mendakwa..ummah syumul mengikut membuta tuli ostad2  yg ada.. tapi bila mereka ngaku mereka pon ikut ostad mereka jugak..tanpa banyak soal.......so apa kurgnya?  Kat sini sekarang kain saper yang terlondeh ni?? Aku pon xde lah baik sgt..bukan ummah syumul pon mcm yg dituduh oleh buah oren tu..tapi aku yakinlah pegangan aku ni..agama xsalah....apa yg nabi wasiatkan xde terkurg..yg kurgnya ummmah jahil ni..cth mcm aku lah.... lucunya... tetiba bersatu teguh gigih pulak ummah sr pon mengomen...masa islam kena kutuk xde gigih nak komen...
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Post time 29-11-2015 06:19 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Orange1 replied at 29-11-2015 04:04 AM
Hi mmg moduss operandii gengg2 lobainita ni kalo nak coverr malu apa2 tanya kat org soalan balik k ...

Ko pon pernh citer..ko ada  soal ustajah ko je ko kena marah..aik skrg aku soal lobai meden ko pon nak naik angin jugak??

Dna teroris masih gigih berkembang dalam diri ko walau ko cuba nak buang..kan?  Dah ko kata islam ni teroris.. mungkin ajaran tu masih subur kekal dalam diri ko walau ko cuba berlagak urban....

Walk the talk....
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Post time 29-11-2015 06:23 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
mbhcsf replied at 29-11-2015 03:57 AM
tak pa nanti i rujuk buku tengku something on ayat an nur tu...

Dia kata dalam quran xde suruh tutup rambut..bila dah tunjuk bukti terus nak tukar channel..

Mungkin sebelum ni xjumpa remote...
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Post time 29-11-2015 06:27 AM | Show all posts
mommymonster82 replied at 29-11-2015 06:23 AM
Dia kata dalam quran xde suruh tutup rambut..bila dah tunjuk bukti terus nak tukar channel..

Mu ...

actually , kalimah tu juga yg ditanyasuatu ketika dulu tapi tak berjawab, u bukan tanya terjemahan tapi maksud makna kata kalimah tu in arabic. so i tak tahu , kat sini sapa gelakkan sapa, i yg nak tergelak actually

u see istibat hukum guna khalifah nyer analogi
terus skip quran, hadith etc


macam tu la

tak pa nanti i rujuk buku tengku muzlina tu

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Post time 29-11-2015 06:30 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
mbhcsf replied at 29-11-2015 06:27 AM
actually , kalimah tu juga yg ditanyasuatu ketika dulu tapi tak berjawab, u bukan tanya terjemahan ...

Dia lagi percaya kawan dia al baghdadi tu...

Bagus jugak u share..perkongsian ilmu...
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Post time 29-11-2015 06:31 AM | Show all posts
mommymonster82 replied at 29-11-2015 06:19 AM
Ko pon pernh citer..ko ada  soal ustajah ko je ko kena marah..aik skrg aku soal lobai meden ko pon ...

actually i hairan apa yang kita buat salah ye? kita tanya soalan , depa hentam kita , personal semua bagai, then kita fokus pada soalan yg kita nak tanya je depa faham ke tak...tapi depa tak jawab tapi depa gelak kat sapa?

soalan tu tak berjawab lagi pun, so nak kata kita yg malu?
aik? kita tanya ?

tapi tulah padahnya  faham segmental sahaja , ni dah cukup bukti.

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Post time 29-11-2015 06:31 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
X tido ke yuols..........

Btw...apa sbb perancis mengharamkan pemakaian  tudung....mesti ada sebabnya..
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Post time 29-11-2015 06:35 AM | Show all posts

cikgu bidang terjun kerja berforum perasan ereb lobainita dah butt hurt..huhuhuhu..

sekian lama duk perati dalam web dan in real life lobai lobainita so defensive x tau ape duk paksa agama bukhari dia keatas orang lain

bila orang tak mau mula judge orang ambik alih kerja tuhan pas tu butt hurt sekor2



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Post time 29-11-2015 06:36 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Byw berkenaan tajuk berita ni berita macam xclear plak..ada yg cakap head scarf..ada yang cakap veil... cth macam berita ni...kata veil..

France: Court judgement in Muslim veil human rights row
Judges ruled today that a decision not to renew a French social worker’s contract, who refused to remove her veil, did not breach human rights law.
In its judgment in the case of Ebrahimian v. France (application no. 64846/11) the European Court of Human Rights held, unanimously, that there had been
no violation of Article 9 (right to freedom of religion) of the European Convention on Human Rights.

The court noted that wearing the veil had been considered by the authorities as an ostentatious manifestation of religion that was incompatible with the requirement of neutrality incumbent on public officials in discharging their functions.
The applicant Christiane Ebrahimian, had been ordered to observe the principle of secularism within the meaning of Article 1 of the French Constitution and the requirement of neutrality deriving from that principle.
According to the national courts, it had been necessary to uphold the secular character of the state and thus protect the hospital patients from any risk of influence or partiality in the name of their right to their own freedom of conscience.
The necessity of protecting the rights and liberties of others – that is, respect for everyone’s religion – had formed the basis of the decision in question.
The court found that the national authorities had not exceeded their margin of appreciation in finding that there was no possibility of reconciling Ebrahimian’s religious convictions with the obligation to refrain from manifesting them, and in deciding to give precedence to the requirement of neutrality and impartiality of the state.
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Post time 29-11-2015 06:39 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
katowjo replied at 29-11-2015 06:35 AM
cikgu bidang terjun kerja berforum perasan ereb lobainita dah butt hurt..huhuhuhu..

sekian la ...

Ada aku cakap aku lobainita ke..eh2 puak korg yg bagi gelaran tu.....

Dah hina nabi org ingat kami nak duk diam ke?

N apa kaitan aku marah org hina nabi aku dengan aku cikgu n online 24 jam? See ?? Hujah ke laut..tahap tu jerlah puak korg ni....
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Post time 29-11-2015 06:41 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
mbhcsf replied at 29-11-2015 06:31 AM
actually i hairan apa yang kita buat salah ye? kita tanya soalan , depa hentam kita , personal sem ...

Ulang2 gtu jerlah....

Dari dulu sampai kini..

Ulang2 tu je..tu me malas kadang2 nak jawab...

Sbb puak ni bukan nak cari kebenaran..nak provoke jer...
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Post time 29-11-2015 06:42 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
noor2 replied at 29-11-2015 06:31 AM
X tido ke yuols..........

Btw...apa sbb perancis mengharamkan pemakaian  tudung....mesti ada seba ...


Baru bangun balik nor..tido2 ayam je ngan anak kecik ni..hihihi..
Setahu me france tak haramkan tudung..cuma veil....tutup muka...tak boleh...tudung xdiharamkan..baca berita pon macam2 ada yg tulis pompuan ni pakai veil.. ada yg tulis head scarf.... so agak celaru di situ..
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Post time 29-11-2015 06:45 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
mommymonster82 replied at 29-11-2015 06:42 AM
Baru bangun balik nor..tido2 ayam je ngan anak kecik ni..hihihi..
Setahu me france tak haramkan ...

Oooo....hanya yang burqa....yg mcm org malaysia pakai depa ok.....kira okla tu...burqa tu pun x sesuai...takut juga pada penipuan...mcm kes kat malaysia ada pencuri lelaki.pakai burqa...
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