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Is it offensive????it's more defensive!!! im just trying to tell the tactics used by the missionaries in India,Africa and around the world!!! if i don't tell this someone may fall to this trap,the western media will never report this coz they are part of the missionaries agenda!!
I think this thread is useful to counter-attacking those missionaries twist and lies!!!! i believe the missionaries will have a hard time to answer this thread or at least u can make them stay away from u! that's
my goals for this thread!!
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Woman sentenced for killing husband who refused to convert
why is that a missionary tactic? is it widely practiced? look to me like an isolated case.
what if one guy kills her wife for refusing to convert to Islam. would it be right to categorize it as a dakwah Islam tactic? |
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Originally posted by aenemy7 at 1/31/06 11:06 AM
if i don't tell this someone may fall to this trap
it doesnt depend on how much you know about 'tactics', it's all about your iman. |
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POt CALLING THE KETTLE BLACK
Heh! aenemy7,
Good article but would appreciate if you could also post the arotcities commited by Muslim invaders in the name of Islam. Afghanistan, Persia, India and the surrounding countries in the early period of their conquest in the name of Islam and Allah. Millions of lives and the spoils of war they had taken. Would that not be fair in your part? If you cannot find I can help you in getting them or would you like to se me post here of the Islmaic conquest of these regions and their henious crimes against non Muslims. Need your answer. |
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 ,just turn on the CNN or BBC news and u will found that kind of news which trying hard to give islam a bad name!!!! what an old song!!that one everybody knows laaa....!!! since it's very easy for u to find such news that u like why don't i post such thing like this thread is all about which is hardly known by Malaysian's and asian's!!!
when British rules Malaysia, the missionaries school forced the student's(the Malay who was a muslim) to learn the bible study akthough they know the malay already was a muslims,the old generation knows about this! this tactic also done in India,Africa,Papua New Guinea...etc(Commonwealth Country)!!! It's the same tactic's used!!! But did the Islam Government of Malaysia forced non-muslims in Malaysia to learn the Quran???? no! instead the government create the Morale Subject for non-muslims! U cannot found such thing like this in any Christian country!!!
So just enjoy the alternative news posted on this thread which u cannot find in Western Media!!! this thread is for Muslim's refferrences to tackle the missionaries lies and tactics and also for non-muslims to think about!
Allah Knows Best,Peace Yall... |
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?????????take your time...... |
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Another Hot things in India!!! as hot as Angelina Jolie & Brad Pitt gossips!!!!
Man stabs lover for refusing to convert
Posted February 4, 2006
KANCHEEPURAM
Saturday February 4 2006 00:00 IST
newindpress.com
A 28-year-old man stabbed his lover when she refused to accept his condition to convert to Christianity before their marriage here on Friday.
According to sources, Senthil of Pulimbakkam Colony in Walajabad had been in love with Sumathy (22) belonging to the same area. When the two were discussing their marriage, Senthil had told Sumathy that he had converted to Christianity and she too should follow suit.
When Sumathy refused, Senthil had assaulted her with a knife. Sumathy suffered injuries on her neck and hip and was admitted to a hospital in Chennai.
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Hmmmmm...typical!!!:cak:
Christian Missionaries Accused of Enticing Earthquake Victims to Convert
Posted February 17, 2006
[ Tuesday, February 14, 2006 10:29:10 am PTI ]
Times of India
The detention of Christian missionaries, who were allegedly trying to convert earthquake- affected people of Uri Tehsil in Jammu and Kashmir under the garb of providing relief, has once again brought to light the role of missionaries in the state under scanner.
The missionaries, claiming to be members of the Bible Society of India, had to shut their shop in quake-hit areas of Uri following complaints from locals that they were luring people to Christianity by offering monetary incentives, official sources said.
A senior police official said the police had warned the missionaries to stop conversion move failing which a case would be registered against them.
The group of missionaries from the Kashmir chapter of the Bible Society of India had been visiting Madian village in Uri sector and had distributed gas cylinders, water bottles, audio cassettes and a copy of the New Testament in Urdu to 230 families of the village, the official said.
The police began investigations into the complaints while the missionaries decided to beat a hasty retreat, he added. This is the second such incident in Jammu and Kashmir.
The Christian missionaries have been active in the state on the educational front for over 150 years without interfering in religious matters of the locals.
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Hmmm....:hmm:
http://www.christianaggression.o ... S&id=1139643620
Anglicans target rappers and skateboarders
Posted February 11, 2006
LONDON (Reuters)
By Paul Majendie
Thu Feb 2, 12:25 PM ET
Yahoo News
Pioneering Anglican priests in Britain are to target rappers and skateboarders in a bid to stem dwindling congregations and connect with the young.
Eager to banish the fusty image of an Establishment church full of ageing worshippers, a new breed of crusading ministers are to spread the word in nightclubs, shopping arcades and skateboarding parks.
Seven out of 10 Britons say they are Christian but most who profess to be members of the Church of England rarely see the inside of a church except for "hatches, matches and dispatches" -- christenings, weddings and funerals.
Fresh Expressions, a task force set up by Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams, is out to change all that in the mother church of the Anglican worldwide communion.
The scheme could at last offer some positive news in a church that has been riven with divisions over the ordination of gay clergy and could next face clashes over the emotive issue of women bishops.
Fresh Expressions team leader Steven Croft said of the new "pioneer priest" scheme: "We are trying to appeal to everybody from the rapper to the skateboarder."
The traditional parish staples of Sunday school, youth club and summer garden fete are just not connecting with the young.
"The distance between the church and much of the culture in Britain is very wide," Croft conceded.
The aim, with a 100,000 pound budget, is to establish new courses that will train experimental, mobile priests to swap the pulpit for the pub.
Under the initiative, up to 400 "alternative church schemes" have now been set up around the country with up to 25,000 people involved.
A double-decker bus has been turned into a youth club, a wine bar is staging "church without walls" services and a London barge has been converted into a floating church.
A Christian "extreme sport" ministry called Rezurgence (rpt Rezurgence) has even been set up as "a unique first that brings mountain biking, BMX and faith into one."
The scheme may have prompted mocking headlines like "Hey Vicar Dude, Wassup?" but Croft is convinced this is the way to revive interest in the church.
"This is all about going to where people are," he told Reuters.
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Mr. Bush and Imperialism..........
http://www.christianaggression.o ... S&id=1141382634
The Faith of George W. Bush: Christian Supremacy, American Imperialism and Global Disaster
Posted March 3, 2006
Yoginder Sikand
theamericanmuslim.org
George Bush抯 personal commitment to and sympathy for Christian fundamentalism are well-known. Indeed, it is becoming increasingly clear that his foreign policies, as in Afghanistan, Iraq and now Iran, are powerfully shaped by the Christian fundamentalist agenda of global conquest for Christ and Capital. Christian fundamentalists believe that Christ alone is the way to salvation, and that the entire world must be brought to heel before him, by force if necessary. In the past, this pernicious doctrine was used to bless bloody Crusades and wars of imperial plunder. The doctrine serves exactly the same purpose today, although in a somewhat modified garb, as the bombing of Afghanistan, the destruction of Iraq and the possible American invasion of Iran clearly indicate. Although these acts are sought to be justified by America as a 慶ivilising |
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His faith makes Bush, or so Mansfield claims, a 'better man'. This 慴etter man |
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Recently most of the American soldier have stress and mental problem ecspecially the one sent to Iraq and Afghanistan....in the early 90s which is the 1st Gulf War in Iraq the American soldier experience the same thing like the new batch of soldier today!weird diseases,dejavu imagery of dying people etc
both War championed by the Bush family....hmmmmmmmmmm
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Hmmm typical tactics huh....this tactic also used in Papua New Guinea,Africa and offcourse India.....
http://www.christianaggression.org/tactics_medical.php
Conversion Tactics
Medical Care
Christian organizations have established hospitals with some of the best medical care across the globe. Many of these hospitals operate under the guise of provide free or cheap medical care to rural and poor communities. However, most of these hospitals are providing these benefits not for goodwill but for conversion.
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Hmmmmm...it's been a while huh???? this thing happen in INDIA, read through!! typical tactic.....
Evangelists offer lure of prosperity
Posted April 28, 2006
By Keshaba Mishra
When all other national and regional Doordarshan Kendras all over India have refused to telecast this programme in any other Indian language, our ?brave? Doordarshan Kendra in Bhubaneshwar is telecasting this programme in Oriya.
THE government-controlled media?Doordarshan Kendra, Bhubaneshwar?has converted itself into a Christian religion propaganda platform.
In its DD-6 Oriya cable channel, since about last one year, it has been telecasting on daily basis (from Monday to Friday, at 9.30 p.m.) a Christian religious missionary programme named Ananda Dainandina Jibanara (Enjoying Everyday Life). The host of this self-sponsored dubbed programme is an American missionary named Joyce Meyer (website address ). She has her India office in Hyderabad.
It appears that the sole purpose of this programme is to effect religious conversions by giving a lure of prosperity. This programme says: Jesus Christ is the Supreme God above all other gods. Any one, who follows him will become rich and prosperous.
In addition to prosperity preaching, this TV programme offers job opportunities to people who convert to Christian religion.
It has also been informed that when all other national and regional Doordarshan Kendras all over India have refused to telecast this programme in any other Indian language, our ?brave? Doordarshan Kendra in Bhubaneshwar is telecasting this programme in Oriya language.
Television is a very powerful medium and it directly reaches our homes and community centres. The problem of religious conversions by offering monetary gains is common in poor rural and tribal areas of Orissa. It will be impossible to resist and control religious conversions in these rural and tribal areas of Orissa, if telecast of such type of Christian missionary programmes continue to originate from cities like Bhubaneshwar and Cuttack. Therefore, any talk of resistance to religious conversions will be useless without first stopping the telecast of such types of programmes.
To protect Oriya Hindus from this conversion allurement, the telecast of this type of programmes should stop. It is indeed sad to note that our government is preaching Christian religion through its captive media.
(Hindu Bhabadhara Mancha, At/Po./District, Koraput, Pin-764020, Orissa.)
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Time to update some news for u all!!! this thread can be used to counter attack those missionaries lies and tactics...
Here's something about the evangelist life in America,hmmmmmmm.....
http://www.christianaggression.o ... S&id=1163176850
The multi-million dollar business called evangelism
Posted November 10, 2006
David Barnett
Novermber 11, 2006
This is Bradford
Source Link
She has a ?5.25 million corporate jet, houses worth ?2.1 million and pays herself a wage of ?319,600 a year. She is Joyce Meyer, one of the most influential evangelists in America, and she says that God has made her rich. And now she's coming to Bradford. DAVID BARNETT reports.
Joyce Meyer fills out concert halls, stadia and churches whenever she appears. She lectures about God, and what it is to be godly.
She talks of sacrifice, and how people should never be scared to give too much money in the name of God. Then she asks for donations.
"Make your cheques payable to Joyce Meyer Ministries/Life in the Word," she told an audience in her home city of St Louis, Missouri. "And million is spelled M-I-L-L-I-O-N."
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And she isn't joking. According to the financial accounts of Joyce Meyer Ministries for last year, the organisation had assets of $67,967,227 - almost ?36 million. From that, Meyer herself was awarded a wage of almost ?320,000. She reportedly lives in a ?1 million house with her husband, Dave, who drives a ?50,000 Mercedes and also works for the ministry, as do her four children who between them live in houses worth another million pounds.
The Joyce Meyer Ministries also has its own corporate jet, and perhaps its slipstream will be seen over Yorkshire today as Meyer and her troop descend upon the Abundant Life Ministries in Bradford for two days of Meyer's own brand of alchemy - turning the faith of the estimated 12,000 people who will visit to hear her speak into cold, hard cash.
The St Louis Post-Dispatch, Meyer's home-town newspaper, has followed her career with interest. It's a rags to riches tale worthy of any made-for-TV drama; the claimed sexual abuse she suffered as a child, married young and unwisely, had a miscarriage, fell victim to depression and mental illness, then finds God while waiting at a traffic light in 1976.
There then begins the arduous climb up the ladder of various churches and ministries until she became the head of her own multi-million dollar industry, with television and radio shows, books and international tours constantly on the agenda.
According to the Post-Dispatch, whose reporters attended several Joyce Meyer events over the autumn of 2003, the requests for donations characterise every show. "God does not need our money," she is reported as telling her St Louis audience. "The giving thing is not for Him. It's for us. I should not have to work to try to support myself."
On her own website at www.joycemeyer.org, she says: "As you give to Joyce Meyer Ministries, you play an enormous part in reaching out in love to a hurting world. With your help, we are using TV, radio, the internet and the printed page to reach millions with the truth of God's Word. You are also helping to reach prisoners and orphans, as well as the hungry and poor.
"Dave and I want to reach the world with the good news of the Gospel and help as many people as we can. Our desire to continually look for opportunities to help hurting people is increasingly being expressed in a variety of ways among the nations. And your support makes it all possible. We love and appreciate you!"
She will be appearing twice tomorrow evening and running four sessions on Sunday at the Abundant Life Centre. Admission is free, tickets cannot be booked and the 2,000 seats in the auditorium are to be offered on a first-come, first-served basis.
When I call the Abundant Life Centre asking for information they are initially pleased about my interest but soon become a little suspicious. Tim Nelson in the marketing section says he will pass on my request for a photograph of Meyer to the media team but asks if they can vet the copy of this article before it goes in the paper "because we wouldn't want any nasty surprises for Joyce".
I tell him that it isn't T&A policy to do that, and although I'm certain I'm not going to get my picture, Tim does indeed have enough faith in the good work of Joyce Meyer to send me one. I ask him if she's ever been to the Abundant Life Centre before.
"No, this is the first time," says Tim. "But we have done a lot of work with her staff. It's very exciting."
Why does he think there might be a "nasty surprise" in what the T&A might write, I ask? Is it because of what other newspapers have written about Joyce Meyer? Perhaps regarding her apparently extravagant lifestyle?
"You can't believe everything you read," says Tim. "And she doesn't have an extravagant lifestyle that I'm aware of. She's just an awesome woman."
Has he met her?
"No, not yet."
There's certainly no doubt that Joyce Meyer, or at least the work of the Joyce Meyer Ministries, is pretty awesome. Their annual report for last year says that for every dollar received in donations - and it was somewhere in the region of ?40 million - 83 per cent went on "outreach and programmes directed at reaching people with the Gospel of Jesus Christ".
In 2005 they opened 22 orphanages in India, and operate more than 40 children's homes throughout Asia. They earmarked money for "outreach" projects for the Asian Tsunami and the Hurricane Katrina disasters.
She was even able, in her 2005 report, to nail down exactly how many "documented salvations" they had been responsible for last year - 34,028.
As well as spreading God's word around the world, Joyce Meyer has had her own troubles on the home front. Randy Holman, the Jefferson County assessor, launched a campaign last year to revoke the tax exemption on Meyer's 52-acre headquarters. Although listed as a non-profit organisation, the decor of the HQ apparently convinced Holman that Joyce Meyer really should be paying tax instead of being exempt, as most places of worship are. He cited pieces of fine art on display and a table that apparently cost $30,000.
Of course, no-one forces people to donate to Joyce Meyer, and no-one will be forcing the estimated 12,000 people who the Abundant Life Centre expect to turn up tomorrow and Sunday to queue to see her.
An editorial in the St Louis Post-Dispatch in 2005 said that thousands of people find solace in Joyce Meyer's message, and that is why they buy her books and watch her TV shows and donate money. But, it added: "It's tempting to ask why a ministry would spend $30,000 dollars on a fancy table rather than digging a few more wells for poor Africans."
Why don't the evangelist show their house to MTV Cribs show,who knows they might have a blink-blink!!!
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