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[Tempatan] AirAsia Indonesia (QZ8501) [V2]: Jumlah Mangsa Dijumpai - 34 orang. #201

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Post time 7-1-2015 03:44 PM | Show all posts
Changa replied at 7-1-2015 03:34 PM
entah la sis.
namun katanya di java sea banyak kapal karam tinggalan perang WW2

Takut saja, alih-alih tumpuan berubah kepada mencari harat karun!!.......
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Post time 7-1-2015 03:47 PM | Show all posts
NAT_11 replied at 7-1-2015 03:44 PM
Takut saja, alih-alih tumpuan berubah kepada mencari harat karun!!.......

sambil nyelam sambil minum air, nat


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Post time 7-1-2015 04:03 PM | Show all posts
geenie replied at 7-1-2015 03:47 PM
sambil nyelam sambil minum air, nat

Kalau kat sea-bed tu kapal Flor de la Mar......gerenti, sume
pencarian and news satu donia akan berubah! Bolehlah Tony-F
duduk relaks, tak perlu nak kutuk-kutuk news di Malaysia
memperbesarkan berita nahas AirAsia Jakarta-bandung!......
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Post time 7-1-2015 04:28 PM | Show all posts
3.15PM: According to the manifest, the bodies recovered so far are of passengers sitting in various parts of the plane, says the investigator Nurcahyo.

3.00PM: QZ8501 was on a left roll when it made impact with the water, says the investigator, adding that the conclusion was made based on the damage to debris recovered.
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Post time 7-1-2015 05:13 PM | Show all posts
RIP, PK-AXC dalam kenangan sis

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Post time 7-1-2015 05:41 PM | Show all posts
Changa replied at 7-1-2015 05:13 PM
RIP, PK-AXC dalam kenangan sis

rasanya nih bkn livery time dia terempas nih sis. livery time terempas, yg kat bawah nih



sbb kalau tengok gmbr yg konon2 dorg jumpa tail tuh, dr huruf A kebelakang


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Post time 7-1-2015 05:51 PM | Show all posts
TT selayaknya ubah tajuk : Ekor Pesawat dah jumpa...
benda bertuliskan huruf A , X dan Air dah dijumpai di dalam laut...
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Post time 7-1-2015 06:11 PM | Show all posts
Edited by mixed at 7-1-2015 06:13 PM


@bobby2008

QZ8501: Penemuan Ekor Pesawat Disahkan
[size=0.688em]Diterbitkan: Rabu, 7 Januari 2015 2:43 PM
  • [size=0.688em]Oleh: AFP



[size=0.75em]Satu gambar tanpa tarikh yang dikeluarkan oleh Pasukan Badan Mencari dan Menyelamat Nasional (Basarnas) pada Rabu, menunjukkan bahagian pesawat penerbangan AirAsia QZ8501 yang terhempas terletak di dasar laut, di luar Pangkalan Bun, Indonesia. Pasukan SAR menemui ekor pesawat yang terhempas di Laut Jawa dengan 162 orang di atas kapal pada 28 Disember lalu, kata ketuanya Bambang Sulistyo yang mengesahkannya pada Rabu. -foto EPA

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[size=0.98em]JAKARTA: Pasukan Mencari dan Menyelamat (SAR) telah menemui bahagian ekor pesawat AirAsia Indonesia, penerbangan 8501 yang terhempas di Laut Jawa, kata ketua operasi SAR pada Rabu.
[size=0.98em]"Kami telah berjaya mendapatkan sebahagian daripada bahagian pesawat yang telah menjadi sasaran kami.
[size=0.98em]"Bahagian ekor pesawat dengan ini telah disahkan ditemui," kata ketua pasukan SAR Indonesia, Bambang Soelistyo kepada pemberita di Jakarta.
[size=0.98em]Penemuan di dasar laut menandakan satu kejayaan dalam operasi carian memandangkan ekor pesawat biasanya menempatkan 'kotak hitam' perakam data penerbangan yang penting untuk menentukan punca kemalangan.



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[size=0.98em]Pesawat itu hilang dari skrin radar semasa ribut pada 28 Disember ketika dalam penerbangan dari bandar Surabaya ke Singapura dengan 162 orang di atas kapal, yang mana sebahagian besar daripada mereka adalah dari Indonesia.
[size=0.98em]Walaupun operasi carian besar-besaran dibantu oleh pelbagai negara, kemajuan operasi tersekat-sekat dengan cuaca buruk menghalang carian. Setakat ini 39 mayat telah ditemui, semua daripada mereka terapung di atas air.
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[size=0.98em]Ketua pasukan SAR sebelum ini berkata lima bahagian besar pesawat itu telah dikesan tetapi tidak mengesahkan bahagian pesawat tersebut.
[size=0.98em]Indonesia mendakwa pesawat itu terbang pada jadual yang tidak dibenarkan apabila ia terhempas dan AirAsia sejak itu telah digantung daripada melakukan penerbangan di laluan Surabaya-Singapura.

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Post time 7-1-2015 07:12 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
geenie posted on 7-1-2015 06:41 AM
kat link bawah ni ada video
http://www.kinitv.com/video/14352O74

tq sis ...
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Post time 7-1-2015 07:13 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Kepala Basarnas  Marsekal Madya TNI Henry Bambang  Soelistyo mengatakan tim Basarnas  belum akan melakukan  pengangkatan terhadap bagian ekor  pesawat Air Asia QZ8501 yang telah  ditemukan pagi tadi. Menurutnya, fokus tim adalah mencari jenazah di titik tempat ditemukannya ekor pesawat itu.
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Post time 7-1-2015 07:15 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Anggota DPR Fraksi  Gerindra Ahmad Muzani mengatakan, ada tumpang tindih dalam birokrasi  pemerintah dalam menangani kasus  AirAsia. Dia melihat semua instansi dan kementerian berlomba-lomba mencari muka atas kasus jatuhnya pesawat AirAsia.
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Post time 7-1-2015 07:16 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
lapan lagi mayat berhasil dikenalpasti.

Jumlah keseluruhan: 24 mayat telah dikenalpasti hingga setakat ini.

jumlah mangsa yg telah dijumpai : 40 orang.

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Post time 7-1-2015 09:48 PM | Show all posts
MistrezHermanaz replied at 7-1-2015 12:48 PM
nisa ni mmg cantik kan..dia anak tunggal perempuan eh..mesti sedih sgt mak dia

SPNJG aku naik flight,belum jumpa pramugari kurang cantik .....
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Post time 7-1-2015 11:08 PM | Show all posts
truly replied at 7-1-2015 03:06 PM
Aku nak tanya soklan sesuai kebodohan aku, sapa boleh tolong bitau.

Apasal bila dah jumpa body, k ...

mungkin sebab jumlah nya ramai.

misal ada satu mayat yang bengkak dan decomposed mahu dipertontonkan kepada lebih 160 wakil keluarga mangsa dan proses ini diulang 160 kali (kalau semuanya jumpa) Ini akan mengakibatkan trauma untuk tahap orang biasa macam kita2 ni.

Mungkin sebab itulah kot ia tidak dilakukan.

Jawapan bodoh jugak...



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Post time 7-1-2015 11:14 PM | Show all posts
voiletiris replied at 7-1-2015 02:30 PM
nak tanya ..aku ni tak tahu pasal kapal terbang ni .naik kapal terbang pun jrg2.andai kata AA tu t ...

ikut pemahaman bodoh saya, yang satu tu macam JPJ bagi cukai jalan. Yang satu lagi tu polis traffik mengawal lalu lintas. Fokus mereka lazimnya agak berlainan. Kita boleh ja bawak kereta road tax dah expired melepasi polis traffic yang mengawal lalu lintas kecuali tetiba kita berlanggar depan dia barulah kantoi takder road tax...

lebih kurang gitulah kot...



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Post time 8-1-2015 01:13 PM | Show all posts
Stop budget price war: Jakarta
JAKARTA

INDONESIA'S Transport Ministry says it intends to stop budget airlines from selling seats at rock-bottom prices, in an effort to place a greater emphasis on aviation safety.

The lowest ticket prices for Indonesia-based budget airlines would be set at 40 per cent of the highest-cost fare, Transport Ministry spokesman Julius Barata said yesterday, according to South African newspaper, The Times.

"We want to prevent a price war so that airlines don't compromise on safety," he said. "We want to protect the public."

He was speaking in the wake of the crash of AirAsia Flight QZ8501, which plunged into the Java Sea on Dec 28 with 162 people on board. The plane had been en route to Singapore from Indonesia's second-largest city, Surabaya.

However, Herry Bakti Gumay, a former Indonesian civil aviation chief, said that safety standards at low-cost airlines were no different from those of full-service carriers.

"Safety is the basis for all airlines," he said.

Yesterday, Bambang Soelistyo, head of the country's search and rescue agency, announced that search teams had found the tail of the jet on the seabed about 30km from the plane's last known location, a breakthrough that investigators hope will lead to the crucial black box recorders being found.

Despite a huge recovery operation assisted by various countries, progress in the recovery effort has been patchy with poor weather conditions hampering the search. So far, 40 bodies have been found, including two which were in an advanced stage of decay yesterday, all of them floating in the sea.

Locating the tail had been a priority because the cockpit voice and flight data recorders that can provide vital clues on why the plane crashed are located in the rear section of the Airbus A320.

"I am led to believe the tail section has been found," AirAsia boss Tony Fernandes tweeted minutes after the announcement.

"If (it is the) right part of tail section, then the black box should be there... We need to find all parts soon so we can find all our guests to ease the pain of our families. That still is our priority."

Until investigators can examine the black box recorders, the cause of the crash remains a mystery, but the area where the plane was lost is known for intense seasonal storms. Indonesia's meteorological agency has said that bad weather may have caused ice to form on the aircraft's engines.

Indonesia AirAsia, 49 per cent owned by Mr Fernandes' Malaysia-based AirAsia budget group, has come under pressure from the authorities in Jakarta since the crash.

Yesterday, three more weekly flights operated by Indonesia AirAsia to Singapore were cancelled, reported The Straits Times.

With immediate effect, QZ367 from Bandung to Singapore will not fly on Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays. It is not clear when or if the flights will resume.

The Transport Ministry had already suspended AirAsia's Surabaya-Singapore licence, saying it had permission to fly the route only on Mondays, Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays. Flight QZ8501 took off on a Sunday.

Mr Fernandes, however, maintained that AirAsia had the required permission. "What happened was purely an administrative error," he said in an e-mail. "The process has become clear now."

The carrier has said it is cooperating fully with the ministry's investigations. That investigation would be completed by tomorrow evening, the ministry said yesterday.

Indonesia has also reassigned some airport and air traffic control officials who allowed the flight to take off and has tightened rules on pre-flight briefing procedures.

REUTERS, AFP
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Post time 8-1-2015 01:16 PM | Show all posts
utk bacaan sampingan

Flying on wild guesses and wild weather
JUNE WONG

AFTER such an eventful, controversial and tragedy-filled year, I wanted my column to strike an upbeat note.

But as luck, fate, whatever would have it, more bad news hit us in the remaining days of 2014: many states in Malaysia were hit by severe floods, sending thousands fleeing to temporary shelters. And, as if that wasn't bad enough, on Sunday, Indonesia AirAsia Flight QZ8501 from Surabaya to Singapore went missing with 162 people on board.

All of us who heard the news must have reacted in a similar way - shock, followed by disbelief. Then, when the truth could not be denied, that wretched sense of loss and sorrow.

I was at a mall in Malaysia shortly after I got the news and when I ventured into a store, the sales assistant was quite jovial about the missing plane, telling her co-worker that no Malaysians were on board, as if that made it all right.

Indeed, most of the passengers and crew were Indonesian, but there was a Malaysian, a businessman from Sarawak, as well as one Briton, one Singaporean and three South Koreans. Among them were 16 children and one infant.

I don't think the sales assistant meant to be callous, but it is certainly not all right. Even if Malaysia's loss was one citizen and it was an Indonesian-majority owned airline, we feel the pain because the victims are our neighbours.


Also making the rounds are conspiracy theories making a big deal of the AirAsia pilots' request to deviate from their scheduled route by ascending to a higher altitude and the plane having turned "slightly" by a few degrees.

All that brought back memories of the still missing Malaysia Airlines (MAS) Flight MH370 and its strange flight path, which obsessed us for months in the first quarter of last year.

But I believe there is nothing sinister in QZ8501's disappearance. In all likelihood, it was bad weather that downed the plane.

According to press reports, the pilot asked to divert his plane because of dense storm clouds, strong winds and lightning.

Aviation experts say modern planes can weather stormy flying conditions and experienced pilots know how to navigate such conditions. That seemed to be what the AirAsia pilots were trying to do. They were ascending to 38,000 feet when contact was lost.

But apparently the storm clouds had risen up to 52,000 feet, which means flying at 38,000 feet would not have helped the pilots overcome the extremely adverse weather.

All this is still speculation at this point and how big a role bad weather played in this air disaster remains unknown. But it cannot be denied that bad weather is increasingly becoming unprecedented wild weather, because of climate change.

The world is experiencing fierce erratic weather never seen before, or at least since we started recording weather patterns. So what aviation experts think they know about bad weather may not hold water any more. We could now be flying in uncharted weather conditions.

It is this thought that sends chills down my back. After all, almost everyone flies these days. I took almost 20 flights to destinations near and far last year.

Early last month, my sister and brother-in-law who flew to Tokyo from Singapore had their flight redirected to Haneda Airport because of bad weather at Narita.

My son, who also flew to Tokyo on the same day, arrived two hours late because his MAS flight out of Kuala Lumpur International Airport was delayed by bad weather. Then his connecting flight from Haneda to Chitose in Hokkaido was also delayed by two hours because of heavy snow.

I was waiting for the three of them to join me in Hokkaido, and tearing my hair out with worry and anger over the delays.

Now, with hindsight, I am thankful that nothing happened to them because wise decisions were made to delay and redirect their flights.

Statistically, flying remains the safest way to travel. As Anxieties.com says, no other form of transport is as scrutinised, investigated and monitored as commercial aviation.

According to PlaneCrashInfo.com, which tracked accident data from 1993 to 2012, we have a one-in-4.7-million chance of being killed flying on one of the world's major airlines, on any single flight. And the odds are still one in two million even if we are flying on an airline with the worst safety record.

"The most dangerous part of your airline flight is the trip to the airport," aviation and national-security expert Carl Rochelle told NBC News.

That is cold comfort to the bereft relatives of the passengers of Flight QZ8501. I, too, am shaken by this latest air disaster so close to home, and spooked by the thought that wild weather may cause planes to crash. But it will not stop me from flying. In fact, I plan to travel quite a bit this year on both MAS and AirAsia.

I have started making my holiday plans, pencilling in dates, destinations and working out my budget. But I will also pay more attention to the weather conditions and work my dates to avoid typhoon or monsoon seasons, for example.

It is my dream to see more of this big, beautiful world, which is a major item on my bucket list. That dream is possible, thanks to the phenomenal growth of the aviation industry.

Yes, the loss of Flight QZ8501 is a horribly sad way to close the year, and I will mourn the passing of the victims. But I refuse to let fear cloud my future as it would be self-defeating.

So let's keep our chin up, square our shoulders, bid goodbye to our annus horribilis and do all in our power to make 2015 a happier new year.
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Post time 8-1-2015 01:21 PM | Show all posts
Edited by biggirlduncry at 8-1-2015 04:48 PM

Jan 8:

9.43am: Meteorological services say weather conditions for the search are best in 12 days, and divers entered water at 6am near tail, Channel NewsAsia reports. The black box has about 18 days of signal left. Transmission was detected in tail vicinity yesterday before being lost.

12.21pm: The Indonesian government has asked AirAsia to take no more than 7 days after bodies have been identified to pay compensation, reports Channel NewsAsia.

12.37pm: Malaysian navy vessel KD Perak recovers body of female victim. Body will be handed over to BASARNAS, says Malaysia's Chief of Navy.


1.39pm: Four investigators from Airbus have already seen images shot by divers inspecting the plane tail.
While the images have not shown any sign of the black box, an investigator from the Indonesia National Transportation Safety Committee said they are "quite sure" the black box is in or near the wreckage.
“If it is detached from the original position because of the impact... I hope and I am quite sure it will be not far from the wreckage that we found yesterday,” he said.

2.31pm: [size=15.6000003814697px]Divers have reached the tail of the aircraft, but did not manage to penetrate the tail due to strong currents and poor visibility.

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Post time 8-1-2015 01:30 PM | Show all posts
menhub indon tengah menggelupor pasal konon izin rute ini akibat kan banyak flight delay dan kena kansel di indon sekarang.

harus la kena cerca dgn rakyat jelata.
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Post time 8-1-2015 01:40 PM | Show all posts
Vokuro replied at 4-1-2015 11:32 PM
abaikan sis posting ummah yg tak tahu apa itu meter dan kilometer dan tidak tahu beda antara satu  ...

hahaha.. yg ni lawak
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