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UNIT TRUST PUBLIC MUTUAL; MACAMANA NAK UNTUNG CEPAT DAN BANYAK?

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Post time 18-2-2009 12:43 PM | Show all posts
Sis baru balik dr Jakarta, so tak dptlah nak bagi berita terkini.

Global equity technicals
5-month trough cycle ahead - by Nigel Foo

The DJIA is still on a downward course to complete its major Wave 5. A break below 7,710-7,725 would confirm that the Wave 5 (iii) is underway, which could take the DJIA below its 21 Nov low of 7,449. In our preferred wave count, we still expect the DJIA to hit 6,600 before bottoming out. A bullish double bottom could form if 7,449 holds, putting the DJIA on course with our alternative wave count instead. Based on our time analysis, the DJIA's LT downtrend could bottom sometime in April. We expect further downside for Asia as well as we do not think that Asia can buck the global trend.
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Post time 18-2-2009 03:14 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by frapamocha at 18-2-2009 12:43 PM
Sis baru balik dr Jakarta, so tak dptlah nak bagi berita terkini.

Global equity technicals
5-month trough cycle ahead - by Nigel Foo

The DJIA is still on a downward course to complete it ...


TQ sis....teruskan dgn berita terkini....!
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Post time 18-2-2009 04:06 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by frapamocha at 18-2-2009 12:43 PM
Sis baru balik dr Jakarta, so tak dptlah nak bagi berita terkini.

Global equity technicals
5-month trough cycle ahead - by Nigel Foo

The DJIA is still on a downward course to complete it ...


Thanks sis for putting my add in your list. Hope it will continued..
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Post time 18-2-2009 05:45 PM | Show all posts
perspektif manusia kepada risk pelaburan (and return) ada tiga. lihat diri anda di mana dan buat keputusan sewajarnya..sekadar selingan utk thread tuan tanah

1. risk seeker

org jenis risk seeker ni, asal mana ada ruang yg blh gain profit, dia akan masuk. off course dia takkan happy with loss (sape suka loss), tapi kalau kita blh quantify utility dia, tahap kegembiraan dia bila gain profit lebih tinggi dari tahap kesedihan dia bila experience loss (loss di sini lebih merujuk kepada on paper loss yg blh recovery balik as times go, bkan loss mcm main skim cepat kaya tuh).

org cam ni jenis sesuai sumbat duit kat ut n simply wait until long term period achieve, dan bulih tdo nyenyak masa time2 cam skg ni.

2. risk averse

risk averse investor adalah pelabur yg tahap kesedihan die akan lebih tinggi bila experience loss compare to tahap kegembiraan bila gain profit. Dengan kata lain, pelabur jenis ini lebih risaukan ttg kemungkinan loss berlaku dari prospect return satu2 dana yg dilaburkan (most of Malay berada di sini )

pelabur begini sekiranya mahu merancang utk melabur amount yg byk, perlu apply strategi switching yg betul (basically perlu agent yg ada knowledge dan ada komitmen serta attitude yg baik). sekiranya melabur pada jumlah yg kecil, lebih baik invest dalam Bond Fund/Money Market Fund, atau Balanced Fund yg memang takkan dapat return tinggi, tapi tidak experience loss begitu byk ketika kondisi ekonomi yg tak stabil. Small-cap fund dan fund yg dilaburkan ke region yg aggressive seperti PCIF sangat tidak sesuai utk pelabur begini.

3. Risk Neutral

Dengan kata yang lebih mudah, definisi risk neutral investor adalah pelabur yg tidak perlukan return yg tinggi. Selalunya risk neutral investor adalah investor yg sudah berusia dan tidak punyai asset yang byk. ada kalanya investor dalam katagori ini terdiri daripada org2 yg mempunyai information barrier yg tinggi sehingga menjadi trauma dengan perkataan loss (kira taknak loss langsung).

Pelabur begini sangat tidak sesuai melabur di unit amanah, khususnya dana-dana ekuiti yang volatile.

Jika anda jenis pelabur risk neutral, lebih baik anda mencari instrument pelaburan lain seperti ASB, TH, atau General Invstment Account (Bank Islam) (tiga contoh ini adalah instrument yg patuh syariah).


Justeru, sebelum anda membuat keputusan, buatlah sedikit analisis terhadap perspektif anda dengan loss sebelum mula berfikir tentang return. Ramai yg masih gagal memahami dan menghayati frasa "high risk high return" dgn baik menyebabkan ramai org Melayu terus menjadi negatif dengan loss (on paper loss).

Harap perkongsian ini membantu, dan saya bersedia utk sebarang pembetulan jika ada kesilapan.

trimas
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Post time 18-2-2009 11:07 PM | Show all posts
hmmm...lama tak jenguk thread nie....
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Post time 19-2-2009 11:19 AM | Show all posts
Todays Update:

Deteriorating economic prospects in the country reflect that Malaysia is suffering from the sluggish external demand. Total manufacturing sales in Dec 08 fell by 20.8% yoy while total employment in the manufacturing sector also dropped by 6.2% yoy. Plantation stocks continued to cruise lower, dragged mainly by weaker CPO prices as well as worries on potential writedown. At the close, the KLCI slid 0.4% or 3.3pts to 895.2. With market lacked positive catalysts to lift the index, all eyes are on the mini budget or second stimulus package which will be announced on 10th March. Expectations are for greater than the November抯 RM7bn package.

................but 10th March I won't be around, so can i borrow somebody else's eyes??? Thanks.
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 Author| Post time 19-2-2009 06:51 PM | Show all posts
Real switching....................

My client ni invest bukan PCIF asalnya. Local fund. Beliau adalah Mutual Gold Member.
Perhatikan sales charge adalah 0..00 untuk switching.

Masa market tinggi, saya telah switch ke Pimmf.

refer pada graph gambar dibawah..
pada 21/01/09 saya telah switch ke P Islamic China Fund dengan harga 0.1385
Pada 10/02 09 saya telah switch balik ke Pimmf..dengan harga 0.1464
Nak tengok untung berapa...?


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 Author| Post time 19-2-2009 06:55 PM | Show all posts
Untungnya ialah ...

5.7% Dalam masa less than 3 minggu...........

Tak percaya...?
Boleh check price date dan price di P Mutual...

?


So, Senang kan nak dapat 5%, beat EPF and 7% beat ASB....
tapi kena kreatif lah....

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Post time 19-2-2009 09:29 PM | Show all posts

Reply #308 kirawang's post

Kirawang....mana nak dapat chart ni,  untuk monitoring?
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 Author| Post time 20-2-2009 08:56 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by cikwawa1 at 19-2-2009 09:29 PM
Kirawang....mana nak dapat chart ni,  untuk monitoring?



Clients tak ada. Hanya consultants yang subscribe untuk monitoring clients punya portfolio masing masing..

Kalau awak clinets PM, boleh minta dr consultant awak...
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Post time 20-2-2009 04:34 PM | Show all posts

Reply #308 kirawang's post

bro kirawang
u switch all units to pimmf kan?
bila pcif turun harga nanti, u akan switch balik ke pcif partially or all units?



* sy nak mahirkan switching .. so kena belajar & banyak tanya...
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Post time 20-2-2009 07:41 PM | Show all posts
hmmm kalau macam saya....ada kaunter pcif, piof, pief dan pistrf....ada suggestion tak nak kena switch atau remain jer.....??
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 Author| Post time 21-2-2009 10:20 AM | Show all posts

Balas #311 singamerah\ catat

Very subjective. Boleh sw sikit sikit atau sw sekaligus...base on current market.
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 Author| Post time 21-2-2009 10:21 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by iena_kindaichi at 20-2-2009 07:41 PM
hmmm kalau macam saya....ada kaunter pcif, piof, pief dan pistrf....ada suggestion tak nak kena switch atau remain jer.....??


nak senang, kau merge satu akaun. Lps tu baru sw untuk satu acc saja. Lain la awak dah Mutual Gold. Tak de charge 25 ringgit untuk satu SW.
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Post time 21-2-2009 01:43 PM | Show all posts

Reply #314 kirawang's post

oic.....so kalau saya nak jadikkan satu akaun.....yang mana kaunter yang nampak cam ada potential.....so saya kena jual unit ker atau bleh transfer macam tuh jer....??
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Post time 22-2-2009 09:11 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by iena_kindaichi at 21-2-2009 01:43 PM
oic.....so kalau saya nak jadikkan satu akaun.....yang mana kaunter yang nampak cam ada potential.....so saya kena jual unit ker atau bleh transfer macam tuh jer....??


amik local kaunter jer iena...choose yg dpt recognition dpd Edge & Lipper dan Morning Star cam PIEF dan Pittikal...tak perlu jual, just switch ajer.
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Post time 23-2-2009 08:47 PM | Show all posts

Reply #316 amirul_nazri's post

ermm....oic....kalau cam pcif ngan pistf tuh ada kena mengena ngan market china kan...?? ermm maksudnya kalau nak switch tuh kena isi borang lain ker....?? local kaunter lagik bagus ekk...?? camner tuh....


p/s : thanks sebab sudi kasi ilmu.....
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Post time 23-2-2009 09:01 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by iena_kindaichi at 23-2-2009 08:47 PM
ermm....oic....kalau cam pcif ngan pistf tuh ada kena mengena ngan market china kan...?? ermm maksudnya kalau nak switch tuh kena isi borang lain ker....?? local kaunter lagik bagus ekk...?? camn ...


PISTF takder apa2 ngan china. Ia fokus 100% to local market only. Kalu nak switch, isi switching form. U bley mintak dpd consultant u atau u direct gi customer services counter.

My style, i suka local becoz less exposure a.k.a volatilite.
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Post time 24-2-2009 08:29 PM | Show all posts

Reply #318 amirul_nazri's post

oh ok...switch kena bayo tak....???
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Post time 24-2-2009 10:40 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by iena_kindaichi at 24-2-2009 08:29 PM
oh ok...switch kena bayo tak....???


hanya switching fee RM 25 dan di tolak dpd nilai pelaburan. bg yg mutual gold, FOC
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