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A visit to Lina Joy's family

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 Author| Post time 4-8-2006 05:13 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by 13Friday at 4-8-2006 04:48 PM

the parang to come out soon?



And your point is?

- MENJ
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Post time 4-8-2006 05:21 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by 13Friday at 4-8-2006 04:48 PM




the parang to come out soon?


you must be a confused man.
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Post time 4-8-2006 05:24 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by bob at 4-8-2006 04:44 PM
my personal take on lina joy.

christians preach moderations as well as love. if lina is truly a christian, she can carry on going to church and marry watsisname. why need jpn to accept and chan ...



Worst to worst just take oath that u renounced and all the wills of  documents should probably written so that  the Islamic authority do not take all if u are single.

if i am not mistaken, if any muslims are single most of the wills goes to islamic authority. correct me if i am wrong.

so, i have already written clearly who should recieved it.
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Post time 4-8-2006 05:34 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by bob at 8/4/06 12:44 AM
why need jpn to accept and change her religion on the card. how many new christians - chinese and indians - that would suddenly bitten by the xtian bug and goes to church every sunday.


I think it's not just about the label on the card. As long as that stays, she is still under the jurisdiction of Syari'a Court. Thus, she may still be brought to that court for doing something that may not be wrong according to her new religion. I guess that's one of her concerns.
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Post time 4-8-2006 05:38 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by BeanDiesel at 4-8-2006 05:34 PM


I think it's not just about the label on the card. As long as that stays, she is still under the jurisdiction of Syari'a Court. Thus, she may still be brought to that court for doing something  ...


then, that should be when she announce, or renounce her faith. she is precluding it to create a loophole in the judiciary. and i think she may not be the black hand that is controlling the marionettes.
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Post time 4-8-2006 05:48 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by MENJ at 8/3/06 09:50 PM

Moderators, please stop this person from sabotaging my thread!



Hello MENJ,
after looking at Truth.8's first post in this thread for a while, in my opinion the person is not sabotaging this thread. And since what the person brought up is not on topic, you may ignore it and not held responsible for that. However, should the person keep pushing you to talk about it, than I will consider it as a sabotage since that may result in unnecessary deviation from the topic against your wish.

You may still bring this up to the complaint thread so that DVP will also look into it.
Thank you.
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Post time 4-8-2006 05:53 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by bob at 8/4/06 01:38 AM

then, that should be when she announce, or renounce her faith. she is precluding it to create a loophole in the judiciary. and i think she may not be the black hand that is controlling the marionettes.


perhaps. gee, to me it's a tough issue, since I'm personally unsure if Malaysia is an Islamic or a secular country. maybe in between. and i don't think this issue can be solved when we can't hardly define the status of our country.
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Post time 4-8-2006 05:59 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by BeanDiesel at 4-8-2006 05:53 PM


perhaps. gee, to me it's a tough issue, since I'm personally unsure if Malaysia is an Islamic or a secular country. maybe in between. and i don't think this issue can be solved when we can't ha ...


you may be right but the legal procedures follows that a muslim is only triable by shariah courts on religion and culture issues. the constitution has no precedence over shariah.
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Post time 4-8-2006 06:19 PM | Show all posts
Kepada Lina Joy,

Jangan rosakkan instituisi Melayu dan Islam di negara ini. Kalau gatal sangat, keluar je dari Malaysia. Agama Bahai takder pun dlm My Kad, Apsal diorang tak kecoh???  Ko nak jadi Kristian Melayu ko punyer hal la! apsal nak kecoh2. Saja jer nak rosakkan instituisi perlembagaan Malaysia.

Ko sengaja untuk merosakkan Negara Islam Malaysia yang telah menjadi contoh kepada kebanyakkan negara Islam lain. Kerana pentingkan diri sendiri, seluruh bangsa ni ko nak hancurkan!!! Seluruh hak orang Melayu ko akan musnahkan!. Seluruh anak cucu kami akan jadi pengemis di bumi sendiri nanti.

Instead laksanakan hukum hudud mati yg ramai anggap tak praktikal. Perlembangan bg ler hukuman buang negara ke apa yg patut. Jangan jejak bumi Malaysia ku ini
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Post time 4-8-2006 06:25 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by tyrande_81 at 4-8-2006 06:19 PM
Ko sengaja untuk merosakkan Negara Islam Malaysia yang telah menjadi contoh kepada kebanyakkan negara Islam lain. ...


Negara Islam Malaysia yang telah menjadi contoh?

mat rempit
seks ramai-ramai
dan baru2 ini :





contoh ke?
cuba baca sampai habis di harian metro nanti.
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Post time 4-8-2006 06:27 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by 13Friday at 4-8-2006 04:48 PM




the parang to come out soon?



was it suppose mean by "jihad"?
or smthg like mcm kes natrah?
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Post time 4-8-2006 06:36 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Iman_6 at 4-8-2006 03:14 PM
I came across many of such people and we also have among them in CARIFORUM. And all of this people are happy and contented to be what they are, A MUSLIM. THAT IS FACT.



YES!  
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Post time 4-8-2006 07:41 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by sherlyn at 4-8-2006 02:09 PM


ohh... you were a moslem before..:hmm: .. it must be so tough for you to be a christian huh..(because malaysia is a muslim country)..?:hmm:




I agree to the above bold sentences..:setuju:



jgn la percaya bila dia cakap dia bekas muslim... sebab kita orang dah buktikan sebaliknya... sampai pernah sekali kita kat sini panggil si Truth.8 ni dengan nama Liar.8 due to his nature.
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Post time 4-8-2006 07:51 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by greekgod at 4-8-2006 06:41 PM



jgn la percaya bila dia cakap dia bekas muslim... sebab kita orang dah buktikan sebaliknya... sampai pernah sekali kita kat sini panggil si Truth.8 ni dengan nama Liar.8 due to his nature.

Bolehtak bongkarkan buktinya di sini. Ala ala macam Bekas Padre Agung seluruh sabah tuuuu.... Kena sebiji senyap sampai kini dari terus mendakwa dia merupakan bekas padre agung seluruh sabah.. Apa namanya nta, lupadah!

Maksud saya, Truth pernah beri nama islamnya yg boleh kita rujuk di mana-mana pendaftaran nama Islam sedunia? Apa lagi bukti Truth mengenai dia pernah jadi Islam? Atau apa pula proof dia tidak pernah jadi islam?
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Post time 4-8-2006 08:00 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by tiM at 4-8-2006 07:51 PM

Bolehtak bongkarkan buktinya di sini. Ala ala macam Bekas Padre Agung seluruh sabah tuuuu.... Kena sebiji senyap sampai kini dari terus mendakwa dia merupakan bekas padre agung seluruh sabah.. A ...


check my old thread...

truth.8: another lies on the foundation of his belief
http://forum.cari.com.my/viewthr ... ghlight=%2Bgreekgod
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Post time 4-8-2006 08:58 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by MENJ at 4-8-2006 03:27 PM


Apostasy is a crime in Islam, period.

And you really want to know why she apostatise from Islam? I dont think its because she was "saved by Jee Zeus", rather I think her vagina was ...

If other religion also enforced the same law , what i mean is apostasy is a crime in their religion 2 , can u imagine what will happen in this world:hmm:
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Post time 4-8-2006 09:03 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by BeanDiesel at 4-8-2006 05:34 PM


I think it's not just about the label on the card. As long as that stays, she is still under the jurisdiction of Syari'a Court. Thus, she may still be brought to that court for doing something  ...

No point when she got no faith in her soul anymore abt moslem. Yes , u can stop her to convert 2 christian officially , but u cant stop her to convert silently in her mind n her soul . So , whats the point , religion is all abt believing in something.

When u stop , nobody can force u 2 start all over again.
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Post time 4-8-2006 09:52 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by greekgod at 4-8-2006 08:00 PM


check my old thread...

truth.8: another lies on the foundation of his belief
http://forum.cari.com.my/viewthr ... ghlight=%2Bgreekgod


terpeluang kepada individu masing, nak percaya atau tidak.

it doesn't any differences.
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Post time 4-8-2006 10:49 PM | Show all posts
I think Islam is against natural justice.
Lina Joy wants to be Christian and she should be allowed to enjoy her new faith w/o interference from others.
There should indeed be no compulsion in religion.
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Post time 4-8-2006 11:03 PM | Show all posts

Hell and heaven

that is the choice between heaven and hell.


who want to guarantee this?

Jesus does guarantee Heaven.
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