[Merged] Hukum memelihara dan menyentuh serigala...

helmetkebas

takkan tampor jer tob..? tendang pun okey..opsss...ganas tue..huhuh

shachihata33

kenapa sampai nk sepak tendang pulak?
sha ada mslh ttg ni, salah ke sha bertanya...
klu sha jelas ttg ni, sha xkn persoalkan dlm ni tau...
Jgn la jadi sombong bodoh pulak...

[ Last edited by  shachihata33 at 11-12-2007 06:30 PM ]

ussopp

first kalo tak bela tak pa...

kdua , ambil jalan safe kita anggap ia sama family ngan anjing so hukum nya

1. Mazhab Maliki - anjing suci termasuk air liurnya
2. Mazhab Syafi'i dan satu drpd 2 pendapat Mazhab Hanbali - anjing najis sama ada kulit atau air liur. (najis tidak sama dgn haram, ingat tu)
3. Mazhab Hanafi dan satu drpd 2 pendapat Hanbali - kulit suci manakala air liur najis
Mengikut Ibn Taimiyah, pendapat ke-3 paling tepat

goldraja

Originally posted by harisbee at 11-12-2007 05:57 PM
korang ni mengada2..ikut jer mazhab shafie senang...x mengelirukan...xpayah nak cuba2 jadi wahabi kalu ilmu sekangkang kera. Ikut satu mazhabcukup...x payah la nak tafsir quran dan hadis sendiri

wahabi tu apa ye? part mana pendapat forumer di sini yg dikatakan wahabi tu?

helmetkebas

ehh...ke situ pulak..ayat tue berupa sindiran refer to tobby statement..

ibnur

Originally posted by shachihata33 at 10-12-2007 06:30 PM


tp ibnur, sha ada gak tnye prof dr al-azhar ni..
die ckp serigala bkn keturunan anjing..
mslhnya masih ade yg ckp serigala 1 keturunan anjing..
ni bukan masalah lama, tp baru...
kalau sha ...

kalau profesor tu profesor biloji, pelontoloji boleh juga percaya.
saya dapat info anjing=serigala ni dari National Geographic.
Lagfi satu macam saya kata mula tu tak yah susah pk pasal masaalah ni.  banyal lagik masaalah besar nak kena pk.

[ Last edited by  ibnur at 11-12-2007 10:20 PM ]

ianho

persoalan yang memeningkan

ibnur

Originally posted by harisbee at 11-12-2007 05:57 PM
korang ni mengada2..ikut jer mazhab shafie senang...x mengelirukan...x payah nak cuba2 jadi wahabi kalu ilmu sekangkang kera. Ikut satu mazhab cukup...x payah la nak tafsir quran dan hadis sendir ...

mazhab shafie senang?  kau duduk mesia semua orang mazhab shafie boleh ler eksyen.  
cuba kau duduk dengan badwi kat sahara, sesilap kau tido sebelah anjing.

cak!

Salam..

Saya nak tanya serigala masuk kategori family anjing kan? kurang pasti lah..kalo ada dalil bleh dibincangkan.

ada la org tanya saya..dia nak bela anak serigala tp dia xpasti boleh ke tak?

..dan dia pernah pegang anak serigala neh smbil bergambar lg..perlu disamak tak..??

forfavor

setau aku x perlu samak bile dh pegang anak serigala...

bubpallo

anak seriala tak per, jangan bapak serigala yew.......dia tokak............................. silap2 kene mandi wajib...........................

[ Last edited by  bubpallo at 8-7-2008 12:31 PM ]

ayiepk

adusssss..
aku sampai skrg pon taktau serigala nih masuk kategori anjing ke..

misssagi

Rasanya serigala dgn anjing satu famili. Nama saintifik
Canis lupus. Nama genus je lain-lain.

Ish! punya banyak binatang lain boleh bela, serigala jugak yang diminatnya

cak!

sbb comei kots..biasa la pompuan neh suka kiut2..

cluesan

"The first dog domesticated by man was a wolf.... The remains found in the Beaverhead mountains of Idaho and those found in Europe, Asia and pre-Columbian America all belong to the same epoch. The friendship between man and dog is one of the oldest and most lasting in history." Simon & Schuster's Guide to Dogs, ISBN 0-67-1-25527-4

"Herre and his colleagues at the institute had come to the firm conclusion on the basis of a large number of skull measurements and examinations of the size and structure of the brain, blood factors, and numbers of chromosomes that all dogs, whether Pekingese, bulldogs or Alsatians, were descended solely from the wolf and not, as has often been assumed, from the wolf and the jackal. "The domesticated wolf is the dog". The Wolf, a Species in Danger, Dr. Erik Zimen, Delacorte Press, NY, ISBN 0-440-09619-7

"Somewhere in early history a young wolf was brought into the family circle of man and through the years became the source of the domestic dog and our most successful and useful experiment in domestication". From foreword written by Ian McTaggart Cowan, Dean of Graduate Studies and Professor of Zoology, University of British Columbia, to The Wolf, Ecology and Behavior of an Endangered Species, Dr. L. David Mech, USFWS, Natural History Press, Garden City NY, ISBN 0-385-08660-1

"Wolf-dog Genetics", N.A. Iljin, 1941
"The Phylogeny of dogs", W.D. Matthew, 1930

"Although the subject continues to be controversiol, most authorities now agree that all dogs, from chihuahuas to dobermans are descended from wolves which were tamed in the Near East ten or twelve thousand years ago". Wolves, C. Savage, Sierra Club Book, ISBN 0-87156-689-3

"But man also made use of the wolf. The dogs owned by the American Indians must have descended from wolf stock". The Living Wilderness, Rutherford G. Montgomery, Torquil Books, 1964, Library of Congress No. 64-20648

"Canis sp. was parent to Canis lupus, the wolf; and the wolf was probably parent to the domestic dog, Canis familiaris, the first large creature who would live with men. "Today the wolf's closest relatives are the domestic dog, the dingo, the coyote and the jackal." Of Wolves and Men, Barry Holstun Lopez, Scribners, ISBN 0-684-15624-5

"The wolf is in fact a wild dog, a member of the scientific family Canidae, which includes domestic dogs as well as other dog-like wild animals such as foxes and jackals. "Scientists believe that wolves are the direct ancestors of today's domestic dogs. They think that early humans domesticated wild wolves to make them useful companions and work animals. Since that time, selective breeding has produced the many varieties of domestic dogs, some of which are very un-wolflike in appearance and habit". Wolf Pack, Sylvia Johnson, Alice Aamodt, First Avenue Editions, ISBN 0-8225-9526-5

"Canis familiaris was probably domesticated from the wolf 10-12,000 years ago. It found it's way into North America as far south as Idaho. Given thousands of years to selectively breed mutants that cropped up in their dog colonies, humans have manipulated an almost incredible diversity in this species. And there exist today more than 800 true breeding types worldwide". Looking at the Wolf, no author listed, Teton Science School, ISBN 0-911797-24-6

"Although wolves and dogs are both members of the Canid family, wolves rarely bark". The Kingdom of Wolves, Scott Barry.

"Few other species have had such a diversity of relationships with man as has the wolf. Evidently early humans tamed wolves and domesticated them, eventually selectively breeding them and finally developing the domestic dog (Canis familiaris) from them. "To date no differences in karyotypes have been found between the wolf and the domestic dog or the coyote (Hungerford & Snyder, 1966), or the red wolf (Nowak, 1970). According to Hsu and Benirschke (1967), both dog and coyote have 39 pairs of chromosomes, with the autosomes described as "acrocentrics or teleocentrics" and the sex chromosomes as "submetacentric" for the X and 'minute' for the Y in the coyote and "minute metacentric" for the Y in the dog. Iljin (1941) crossed a wolf with a black mongrel sheep dog and then made various types of crosses for four generations, totaling 101 individuals, all of which were fertile". The Mammalian Radiations, John F. Eisenberg, The University of Chicago Press, ISBN 0-226-19537-6

"A wild wolf is genetically little more distant from the domesticated dog than a wild mustang is to a quarter horse. (That wolf and dog can be hybridized, while a fox and dog cannot, points to the genetic and ancestral affinities of wolf and dog.)...."In actuality, a poodle, like any purebred dog, already has innumerable wolf genes since they share a close common ancestry." Dr. Michael W. Fox, D.V.M., Ph.D., D.Sc., Vice President, Bioethics, Humane Society of the United States. Affidavit.

"....Breeds of dogs can not be distinguished from each other by any known anatomical attribute or even biochemical genetic test, including DNA fingerprinting. Since a given breed of dog can not be defined by any scientific means currently known, our contention is that it is not possible to write any ordinance or law that would single them out for special treatment since they cannot be so defined in a legal sense. "Recently I attended a canine genetics workshop at Texas A & M University in which it was further emphasized that there is no biochemical genetic test that can even distinguish wolves from domestic dogs. "....I would taxonomically identify all wolves, wolf hybrids and domestic dogs as the species Canis lupus. Technically, the domestic dog and wolf hybrids should be designated as the sub-species "domesticus". I. Lehr Brisbin, Jr., Research Professor, Savannah River Ecology Laboratory, The University of Georgia. Letter, 30, Jan. 1990

"There is not presently a valid test that will guarantee analysis of whether a particular canine carries wolf blood. Certain DNA studies have been conducted by a New York laboratory under contract by the Wyoming Game and Fish Department, but a much larger population study of wolf and dog breeds would have to be done before conclusive results can be obtained." Jerry M. Conley, Director, Idaho Fish and Game Dept. From letter to Gov. Cecil D. Andrus, March 19, 1992

"Canis familiaris is the scientific name for the domesticated dog. He belongs to the same genus as the wolf, Canis lupus. Scientists, after many years of controversy, now agree that wolves were domesticated about 12,000 years ago by various Indian tribes throughout the world". Leader of The Pack, Shaping Dog Instincts Through Pack Training, Nathan B. Childs, Pack Publishing, ISBN 0-9616304-1-8

source : http://www.idir.net/~wolf2dog/genetic1.htm

Kesimpulannya, anjing adalah baka serigala yang dibawa masuk ke rumah sebagai haiwan peliharaan. Anjing = Canis familiaris & Serigala = Canis lupus. Keluarga Canis.

matamata

Serigala keluarga anjing

bzzts

anjing + serigala kacukan ke, atau serigala betul?

kalo srigala, jauh bezanya dgn gambar ni...

matamata

Ini sepesis Husky....(mcm snowdog tu)

demonagirl6

eii meow cute...
nyeoowwwwww

umm...contoh k..
klu kita jumpa baby serigala cam kat pic di atas tuh..sorg2 tanpa ibu..
dier tak der makan semua bagai...kelaparan..dah nak pengsan..

leh ka kita take it in...jaga dier?
or pas kita jumpa org yg ikhlas jaga baby serigala tuh..barula kita lepaskan dier?

cluesan

kawaii... ano neko-chan... demo... neko janai, ookami desu...