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rasa2 ko murah ke yg renault punye ni ha??? |
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kalau yg aku baca kat blog indon....dia org dapat save cost bila buat sendiri tak yah beli dari france...aku tak ingat angkanya..tapi banyak juga lah......bukan dato zahid hamidi perna offer indonesia kah yg kita ada 8X8 yg boleh tukar dengan anoa ni...
pendapat peribadi aku..lah (org awam) kenderaan ni terlalu tinggi kalau dibandingkan dengan patria...lagi senang jadi mangsa RPG dan yg sewaktu dengannya...betulkan kalau saya salah... |
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Will the replacement be an APC or an IFV? |
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better get Rosomak/Patria.....
War in Afghanistan (2001–present)
The Polish Land Forces contingent, which is a part of the International Security Assistance Force have been operating 35 KTO Rosomak vehicles (including 5 medivac) in Afghanistan since 2007. The APC's were equipped with additional steel-composite armor. In early 2008 a Polish Rosomak serving in Afghanistan (the version with upgraded armor) was attacked by Taliban rebels. The vehicle was hit three times with a RPG-7 missile but it managed to fire back and returned to base without any help required.[9] In June 2008 a Rosomak was attacked by Taliban and was hit in its frontal armor with a RPG. The armour was not penetrated. Rosomaks have also been attacked by mines and improvised explosive devices but no vehicles have been destroyed. The Polish Rosomak is feared by the Taliban who call it "The Green Devil" and according to some intelligence reports, they tend to cancel their attacks when AMV Rosomak is present.
source from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patria_AMV |
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the replacement will be a multirole armored fighting vehicle to replace the current roles of the condors and sibmas |
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22# alterlation
biar mahal tapi berkualiti daripada murah tapi menyusahkan. |
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Post Last Edit by Periuk_api1209 at 27-9-2009 12:56
zimbru huduh giler...
go for patria/rosomak..
tak salah rosomak tu di buat oleh firma yang sama buat pendekar kan??? |
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i go for patria.. lawa siot. |
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bkn calon utk replacement actually dah ada calon ke..? |
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Alooo bro, jgn kira pasal lawa maka kita kena pilih walhal kita kena tengok samada spec kenderaan mengikut keperluan kita. Ini Zimbru aka BTR ok jugak pasal silhoutte rendah tapi krew/passengers duduk mmg tak selesa pasal compartment terlalu kecik! Ini Zimbru aku dengar Master Defence tgh lobby Mindef ada betul ke? Aku harap Mindef jgn termakan gula2 diorang udah! |
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I think the replacement should be ASAP cos Condors are only good for 7.62mm protection and cannot be used as frontline APC anymore.
There are many proven systems out there to choose from because of the war in Afghanistan. Malaysia does not have to consider air mobility cos thats out of the question so more armour the better.
The Condors can be converted for other uses such as AA & mortar platforms, ambulance or armoured supply train if yu don't mind the lack of protection. |
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Weapon Highlight: Agile & Spacious Troop Carrier - The Terrex ICV
Story by Ong Hong Tat
Infographic Desmond Wong
![](http://www.mindef.gov.sg/imindef/publications/cyberpioneer/weapon/2009/aug09_weapon.-imindefPars-0006-TextImage.imindefParstextimage.gif)
Where general-purpose troop transports stop is where Infantry Carrier Vehicles begin, and the Terrex AV81 is one of the latest to join the ranks of these fortified vehicles.
When tanks made their first appearance during World War I, the problem of troops being unable to keep up with tanks surfaced. Heavy enemy fire prevented infantry troops from advancing at a similar speed.
Enter the Infantry Carrier Vehicle – armoured vehicles dedicated to troop transportation – to the rescue in 1918. Since the British Mark IX troop carrier tanks tore through enemy ranks 
during World World I, these vehicles have since evolved in sophistication.
Today, as with the likes of the Terrex AV81, they boast comfortable seating, enhanced protection and advanced capabilities and have become 
an integral part of armoured forces.
No terrain too rough
Developed indigenously by Singapore Technologies (ST) Kinetics, the 8x8 wheeled Terrex AV81 handles all terrain with ease, be it trenches, water or steep gradients.
This high mobility is made possible by its double-wishbone suspension, a technology commonly found in passenger cars. Modified for high levels of rugged use, this independent suspension system found on the Terrex AV81 is a class above consumer automotive suspensions as it ensures maximum ride comfort regardless of the terrain.
The Terrex AV81 is also fitted with an in-built Central Tyre Inflating System (CTIS), which uses 
high-powered air pumps to inflate or deflate tyres according to driving conditions. Adjustments can be made on the move and the CTIS can also be activated to continuously fill the tyres with air to cope with small punctures, until conditions permit a tyre change.
With eight large off-road tyres, the Terrex AV81 can traverse soft ground with ease.
This is because off-road tyres feature aggressive tread patterns that appear as knobs on the tyre surface, giving the vehicle significant “bite” to contend with undulating terrain.
The Terrex AV81 has hydrojets mounted on both side of its hull which allow it to overcome various obstacles.
Armed to protect
The modular design of the Terrex AV81 means its top deck can be changed as needed. Possible top decks include one with 
remote-controlled weapons stations, a 40mm automatic grenade launcher and a 7.62mm coaxial machine gun.
Should heavier fire-power be required, a complete stabilised turret armed with a 25mm cannon and 7.62mm machine gun can be mounted on the vehicle. Additional 7.62mm machine guns can be attached at the rear.
Besides its basic armour, the Terrex AV81 can be fitted with a fully active or passive add-on armour suite that greatly enhances the troop carrier’s effectiveness against typical threats.
Coupled with a V-shaped hull design, the Terrex AV81 is hardy enough 
to even withstand mine blasts. A 
self-regulating atmospheric system protects its occupants from nuclear, biological and chemical attacks.
Rated to carry up to 9.5 tonnes of load, the Terrex AV81s can be fitted with additional armour without sacrificing cargo-carrying abilities.
Multi-mission set-ups
With a voluminous 12 sq m interior, Terrex AV81s may be set up for different uses. In its basic form, it functions as a troop carrier, which can hold 11 to 13 men including the driver and vehicle commander. Troops can be side-seated or 
centre-seated.
Other options include outfitting the Terrex AV81 as a command and control vehicle with a full communications suite on board; as a recovery vehicle designed to locate casualties or replace disabled equipment; or as a mortar platform to provide immediate indirect fire support for fast-paced offensive operations.
The Turkish variant, called the Yavuz, was developed by Turkish firm Otokar according to the requirements of the Turkish land forces.
Source of the above article:
Cyberpioneer - Agile and spacious troop carrier
Cyberpioneer - Networked infantry carrier vehicle gives SAF sharper edge in urban warfare
Singapore Army Website - Terrex ICV, Raising The Infantry's Fighting Capabilities |
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31# Canaletto zimbru ni asal BMP kan ? dalam bukan sempit gile ke? aku tgk dalam tempur mmg sempit amat! |
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yang renault tu pun ok what....tp nampak cam indon la,hehehe![](static/image/smiley/default/lol.gif) |
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26# tangopapa
aku pun setuju gak tu beli dari France...banding dari indon...since indon pun banyak sangat...songeh nya
rasa2 berapa biji kita nak beli VOB ni? |
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Sumber itu turut berkata, sekiranya untuk kegunaan sementara untuk menyokong operasi pengaman TDM di Lebanon, maka kerajaan seharusnya mengutamakan kenderaan AV4 4x4 di mana AV4 adalah kenderaan buatan Malaysia yang boleh diperolehi dengan kadar segera.
http://www.klsreview.com/HTML/2009Jul_Dec/20090927.html
lihat berita ini.saya pun setuju.kenapa tak mau ganti dengan AV4??bUKAN av4 MURAH? |
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37# alterlation oo, kire indon nyer license made la? aku ingat mmg indegenous punya technology.. |
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37# alterlation
mungkin satu batalion armor... atau satu skuadron. Atau mungkin semua condor yang ade digantikan. |
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