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Post time 22-12-2009 01:28 PM | Show all posts
contoh yang diberi sangat berbeza dengan kata asal pembukathread.  

that's why la aku cakap contoh aku extreme, just to make it obvious that kita tak semestinya kena jawap soklan jek tapi tak patut respond cara soklan tu ditanya.

Pembuka thread hanya sebut 'berbangsa cina', dan pada aku takjadi masaalah pun.

except the question has everything to do with religion, not race.

Contoh yang awak bagi adalah maki hamun.  

exactly. but patutkah orang buat tak tau jek when I do something wrong while asking a question? patutkah aku expect orang just jawap soalan, tak kira la aku ajukan soklan tu cammana pon? it seems like that's what hadi was saying.

Kecualiawak bagi contoh ni untuk dapat upperhand dalam argument,

obviously.

yang pada akuhanya dragging the debate for the sake of nak menonjolkan sesuatu (yangaku pun tak tahu apa).
ibnur Post at 21-12-2009 20:50


yes, yang aku nak tonjolkan ialah I don't think it's ok mencampuradukkan bangsa dan agama. it's not good to make it seem like Islam ni agama Melayu jek, walaupon Islam di Malaysia paling ramai Melayu. Last time I checked Islam ni agama semua bangsa, agama yang menyatukan pelbagai bangsa. Maybe I'm wrong on this, but aku rasa tak elok kalo kita biasakan sebut Cina jek kita mesti faham dia bukan Islam, unless stated otherwise. Or sebut India jek pepaham jek la dia Hindu.
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Post time 22-12-2009 02:03 PM | Show all posts
ah just call them whatever you guys want. Whatever. bukan cakap pasal aku atau bangsa aku pon. why should i care, right?

oh wait baru teringat nenek aku Cina gak. ah whatever, that's her not me. so yeah, call them whatever u want.
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Post time 22-12-2009 03:02 PM | Show all posts
maaf yer nyampuk..
rasanya x perlu nak argue pasal bangsa yang TT cakap..
bukan TT cakap yang x baik pun..
cuma cakap 'cina' dan itu suatu bangsa..
kita pun orang cakap 'melayu' sebab bangsa kita melayu..
kalau nak tau lebih lanjut apa agama ex owner rumah tu boleh tanya dengan TT..
samada muslim or non muslim..
saya x kan marah kalau orang cakap saya melayu..
sebab saya memang berbangsa melayu..
pendapat saja..sekian..
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Post time 22-12-2009 03:04 PM | Show all posts
22# kucingblue
U got something to ponder tp contoh yg diberi dan pernyataan dlm post yg ini macam poyo lah plak. oopppss!!!
Hey! U sound so feminin!
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Post time 22-12-2009 03:23 PM | Show all posts
maaf yer nyampuk..
rasanya x perlu nak argue pasal bangsa yang TT cakap..
bukan TT cakap yang x baik pun..
cuma cakap 'cina' dan itu suatu bangsa..
kita pun orang cakap 'melayu' sebab bangsa kita  ...
buterfly Post at 21-12-2009 23:02


that's not my point. kalau dia cina kite panggil dia cina, nothing fundamentally wrong with it. tapi soklannya berkenaan agama, bukan bangsa. as if Islam ajar kita hukum sesuatu benda tu bergantung pada bangsa orang yang terlibat. even though it's not what we mean, we shouldn't perpetuate it. and it's not like it's much easier to type "berbangsa cina" (14 characters) berbanding "bukan Islam" (11 characters).

but like i said, whatever. call them whatever you wanna call them, regardless of the context. y'all decide. I'm done voicing my opinion about it.
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Post time 22-12-2009 03:28 PM | Show all posts
Hey! U sound so feminin!
HOTlips Post at 21-12-2009 23:04

is it surprising?
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Post time 22-12-2009 03:47 PM | Show all posts
that's not my point. kalau dia cina kite panggil dia cina, nothing fundamentally wrong with it. tapi soklannya berkenaan agama, bukan bangsa. as if Islam ajar kita hukum sesuatu benda tu bergantun ...
kucingblue Post at 22-12-2009 15:23


saya faham apa yang encik kucing cuba sampaikan..
tapi saya rasa encik kucing boleh tegur TT sendiri dan dengan cara brhemah
supaya TT menukar daripada 'berbangsa cina' kepada 'bukan islam'..
saya kurang setuju dengan cara teguran encik kucing seperti di bawah ni..

kenapa lah kat sini kalau yang dimaksudkan ialah "bukan Islam", tapi yang disebut ialah bangsa orang tu. As if Islam is racist.
kucingblue Post at 20-12-2009 16:45
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Post time 22-12-2009 03:54 PM | Show all posts
Post Last Edit by HOTlips at 22-12-2009 15:55

27# buterfly
Baru jek akak nak tulis.
Btw,
is it surprising?

Ha ah!! coz i've seen ur hand.
U know what, never give up in delivering advices. Cuma frasa kata kena bersesuaian. Kalau tak, mengharapkan pd kebaikan tp keburukan pula jadinya.
Just my 2 kupang.
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Post time 22-12-2009 03:55 PM | Show all posts
27# buterfly
Baru jek akak nak tulis.
Btw,

Ha ah!! coz i've since ur hand.
U know what, never give up in delivering advices. Cuma frasa kata kena bersesuaian. Kalau tak, mengharapkan pd k ...
HOTlips Post at 22-12-2009 15:54


x per...rama2 tolong sampaikan untuk akak..
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Post time 22-12-2009 03:57 PM | Show all posts
tapi saya rasa encik kucing boleh tegur TT sendiri dan dengan cara brhemah
buterfly Post at 21-12-2009 23:47


Agreed. I hereby sincerely apologize to everyone especially machaman77 for my tone. Sometimes I get carried away.
Yes, mengunakan tone yang kasar doesn't make my point any better. It may in fact overshadow the point I'm trying to make. Thank you so much for pointing it out.
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Post time 22-12-2009 03:58 PM | Show all posts
Post Last Edit by HOTlips at 22-12-2009 15:55
Ha ah!! coz i've seen ur hand.
HOTlips Post at 21-12-2009 23:54


well at least I have a masculine hand.
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Post time 22-12-2009 04:04 PM | Show all posts
Agreed. I hereby sincerely apologize to everyone especially machaman77 for my tone. Sometimes I get carried away.
Yes, mengunakan tone yang kasar doesn't make my point any better. It may in fa ...
kucingblue Post at 22-12-2009 15:57


dah menjadi kewajipan kita sesama muslim saling tegur menegur..
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Post time 22-12-2009 05:19 PM | Show all posts
Aku dah agak, bila kucingblue masuk je thread, mesti jadi jauh terpesong dari tajuk asal, orang bijak pandailah katakanlah. Kepada TT, harap u dapat manfaat dari pandangan2 yang dikemukakan oleh forumer...
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 Author| Post time 23-12-2009 12:16 AM | Show all posts
Terima kasih di atas semua nasihat yang diberikan walaupun hanya page 1 menjawab soalan yang diutarakan. saya ambik yang mana patut je. dah buat apa yg patut td dalam rumah baru. penat gak la. buat yg mampu je
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Post time 24-12-2009 10:30 AM | Show all posts
34# machaman77

Selamat masuk rumah baru...
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