Pelaburan SILVER vs GOLD

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azhartahir

baru lock 500g silver pada  harga RM2502 (12pm)

petang ni baru g amik
argh...cepat giler nek rege
kopak duit aku

chuckiey

cemane korg beli silver? beli kat ner? kalo jual balik, ade yg nak beli ke?
cam berminat..

DarkBaron

Reply 23# chuckiey

saya jual silver je tapi tak beli balik..

a_dira

bg aku..

tak kisahlah...  coin or bar... casting or minting...

yg penting silver...

ha  ...
pengecatbintang Post at 16-8-2011 15:03

barang kemas silver 925 itu termasuk dlm kategori ni juga ke???

sesuai dibuat pelaburan tak?

samax

sekadar berkongsi..koleksi aku

pengecatbintang

barang kemas silver 925 itu termasuk dlm kategori ni juga ke???

sesuai dibuat pelaburan tak ...
a_dira Post at 19-8-2011 23:22

Aisey.. pasal brg kemas silver saya x berapa pasti..

pendapat saya...

kalo dah ada tu simpan n pakai...

kalo nak tambah silver lg... beli bar or coin...

kalo bole beli dr yg ada buy back option...

insyaAllah... satu hari nnt... mgkn 2013 or 2012... silver diiktiraf sbg duit sebenar

pengecatbintang

sekadar berkongsi..koleksi aku
samax Post at 20-8-2011 00:13

waa... bila kita pandang precious metals tu... especially silver... mcm x bernilai kan...

tp itu bg orang yg x tau nilainya...

bg yg tau... akan pandang n mengolek (pinjam perkataan Swift) dgn penuh rasa kepuasan...

arwien

barang kemas silver 925 itu termasuk dlm kategori ni juga ke???

sesuai dibuat pelaburan tak ...
a_dira Post at 19-8-2011 23:22

tak sesuai rasanye beli barang kemas silver utk simpanan/pelaburan..sbb rasanye skrg ni blm ade org/kedai yg buyback barangan kemas silver. better beli bar, coins, dirham utk simpanan. barang kemas silver utk melaram ok la kot. Tp kalu barangan silver yg ade established brand mcm Tiffany & Co. tu maybe ade value kot kalu nk jual balik, tp harga nak beli mahal giler sbb brand & design. Lagi mahal dr gold.

rose_liz

Reply 29# arwien

barang kemas silver 925 boleh lebur balik x mcm emas? ada satu set gelang, cincin n rantai...bersepah2 je tu dlm kotak brooch. dah taknak pakai sbb jd itam.

a_dira

thanks pengecat bintang n arwien atas info yg diberikan

sy baru nk berjinak2 dgn pelaburan silver setelah harga emas naik melambung bulan ni...tp ilmu kurang la sikit pasal pelaburan ni

boleh suggest tak web mana yg jual silver dgn harga menarik?

maklumla beginner mcm saya tak tau mana nak cari n tawar beli silver dgn harga berpatutan

arwien

Reply 30# rose_liz

tak pasti lak bole lebur mcm emas ke tak. Tp mcm tak berbaloi jer nk lebur pun..kalu takat rantai, gelang, cincin berapa gram nyer pun.. harga silver skrg pun baru Rm4 segram  . Lain la koleksi barang silver sampai berkilo2.. .  Yg aku tau brg kemas silver ni kadang2 lg mahal dr emas sbb workmanship & design dia..nak2 lg kalu yg ade brand, lg la mahal.
Barang kemas silver mmg lama2 jadi hitam sbb udara..kena rajin cuci (guna kain atau cecair khas utk silver). Pastu kena simpan elok2 la dlm kotak ke, bekas ke, jgn terdedah kepada udara kalu tak pakai, pastu tkleh simpan skali dgn barang metal/logam yg lain, nnti lagi senang jadi hitam.

Swift

sekadar berkongsi..koleksi aku
samax Post at 20-8-2011 00:13

pakcik kayo..pakcik kayo..
dah kawin ke belum ni..leh wat menantu ni..
pandai dia wat rete..

eh lupa...pengecatbintang pun leh dibuat menantu jugak ..


gurau gurau jekk...jgn maraa..nanti kena jualll...1000 dirham...

arwien

Reply 33# Swift

cukup 50gm emas dah bole pinang anak dara org tu.

rose_liz

Reply 32# arwien

hehe...betul jugak kan...

dah jumpa cara2 nak cuci silver2 tu...tgh rendam tu....nampak berkilat balik dah...haha...seronok pulak tgk...leh la pakai masa raya. ada lagi koleksi silver, rantai labuh celup emas putih n 2 rantai n satu lagi gelang...tak tahu la sebab pe gi beli byk2 tu hari...beli ngan tukang emas jiran sebelah rumah je...cantik2 n murah...tapi bila dah hitam, terus rasa geram tamau pakai...tapi, sekarang sy sudah jumpa cara cucinyer....

bila baca thread ni rasa semangat pulak nak beli silver coin or dirham...nak bli gold tak mampu...

arwien

Reply 35# rose_liz

hehehhe.. bagus2 dah cuci... barang kemas silver ni walaupun tk laku nak jual balik tp cantik bile pakai..(utk org yg tak suka pakai emas). Takdak sape nak ragut  
saya cuci pakai kain je (murah jer kain tu tak sampai 20 hinggit). Lepas tu kalu nk simpan, seeloknyer balut dulu dgn plastik atau kertas nipis/kertas minyak, then baru letak dlm kotak /bekas. Baru kurang pengudaraan & elakkan dia jadi hitam.
Minggu ni silver dah naik byk. Dah RM4.12 segram. Last week dok sekitar RM3.78 segram jer.

rose_liz

Reply 36# arwien


    ooo kain apa tu? kat mana nak beli?

sy dah gi korek2 kotak simpan brg2 silver tuh...adehhh ade lg rupanya....hahha...awat la ceq pi beli silver byk2...kalo beli emas kan dah boleh pajak...2 thn sudah lg murah harga emas kan? masa tu mmg tak minat langsung emas. sbb tak kena ngan tone kulit sy. skrg da menyesal bila tgk harga emas melonjak2 naik.

tapi menyesal pun tak guna, nak beli emas pun da tak mampu, so sy nak beli coin silver sikit, katner de jual? kedai emas ade ke?

pengecatbintang

pakcik kayo..pakcik kayo..
dah kawin ke belum ni..leh wat menantu ni..
pan ...
Swift Post at 20-8-2011 08:00

Yes.. Ibu mertuaku.. Anything?

He he

pengecatbintang

Reply  arwien


    ooo kain apa tu? kat mana nak beli?

sy dah gi korek2 kotak simpan brg2 si ...
rose_liz Post at 20-8-2011 09:34

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Will China Push the Silver Price to $100? - 19 August 2011
China "will start buying silver much more aggressively"...

STEPHEN LEEB – chairman and chief investment officer of Leeb Capital Management – is a big fan of silver. In this interview with Hard Assets Investor he explains why he thinks the Silver Price is heading for triple digits...

Hard Assets Investor: You have declared that silver is a "three-digit" commodity. Why?

Stephen Leeb: I think there are two crucial fundamentals. One, silver's a monetary metal, although not as widely recognized as a monetary metal as gold right now. But it certainly has a history of being a monetary metal. People will price it for that. You have a race to the bottom in terms of all the current reserve currencies, like the Euro and the Dollar. The action in gold is certainly evidence of that. The fact that silver's price is holding in the upper 30s is pretty good. There's a lot of downside protection in silver because of its monetary component.

On the industrial side, silver is critical. Silver has properties that cannot be duplicated on many levels. It is the best thermo-conductor of anything that's found. It conducts heat better than anything else. It conducts electricity better than copper or anything else. And, it's one of the best reflectors. Is it really surprising then that silver is a critical component on most solar applications?

China right now is spending about $1 trillion a year on alternative energies. China controls the solar industry. They have at least 50 percent market share. They've been underbidding, undercutting everybody in the development and acquisition of polysilicon. After which comes silver. In order to build these solar panels, you need silver.

You have a potential, utter squeeze coming on silver, a monetary metal with critical industrial applications. Silver's trading around $39 and hasn't even come down 10 percent since the market started sliding. It's a great hedge in deflation. You're going to have demand for silver coming from two places, which I don't think you're going to be able to satisfy, given that silver production today is rising at a much slower rate than it was in 2010, despite the fact that silver prices are higher. That dictates dramatically higher prices for silver.

HAI: Do you think the solar element is something that is being overlooked in terms of the demand?

Stephen Leeb: Totally. China will start buying silver much more aggressively and start accumulating it. There's very little doubt in my mind that China will be accumulating massive amounts of silver.

HAI: For silver to achieve three digits in price, would it be a slow, steady march, or something that would rocket up?

Stephen Leeb: I don't think it would be a single event. I wrote a book, "The Oil Factor," and in it I made the call for $100 [a barrel] oil. I said "three digit oil." When the book was published in 2004, oil was around $30 or so, about the same price as silver is now. It took about three years to get to three digits. But there was no event that triggered the big jump in oil prices. There has been no event that has triggered the big jump in Gold Prices, other than the gradual realization that there are no reserve currencies in the world that are worth a darn. The same realization will keep silver in a strong, long-term uptrend. I think people are going to be very surprised, very surprised, when it just goes past $50.

HAI: Is $50 the figure that, once it breaks through that, it can take off, or is it further up the line?

Stephen Leeb: No, people make too much of these breakout points. If it goes to $50, it's likely to go to $51 pretty quick. I'm sort of being funny. I don't think that it'll tick at $50, and then the next tick will be $80. If it goes to $50 it will likely get a little pop, maybe low $50s or mid-$50s and walk around there for a while and then go up again.

HAI: Do you think that that would happen independent of gold?

Stephen Leeb: It will be independent of gold. I think all commodities are going to have to go a lot higher. I just don't think there are enough commodities out there to build out renewal or alternative energies. I don't think China realizes it. I mean, you've got peak [price] coal, you've got peak oil, peak everything. Silver, even without the monetary component, would make it into three digits.

HAI: You seem to have a bullish sense of growth; global growth as well?

Stephen Leeb: I wouldn't say global growth. I'm bullish on Chinese growth. China's a wicked enemy of ours. They're monopolizing resources. They'll continue to do that because I think they're looking out for their own. It's hard to have a totally bullish outlook on growth when you're looking at resource scarcities that are going to affect China as well.

HAI: Do you think that gold and silver are in the same asset class?

Stephen Leeb: They've never been in exactly the same asset class. There's no industrial use for gold. It's become ever-more recognized as a possible reserve currency. Silver does have industrial uses. It's industrial vs. nonindustrial. They're totally different classes. But silver overlaps. In a diagram, you would have silver in both sets: the industrial set as well as the monetary set.

HAI: What fundamentals of silver do you worry about? What would change your opinion?

Stephen Leeb: A lot of it has to do with China. What would change my opinion? If we found other ways of creating solar energy that did not involve silver — and I don't see any on the horizon — that certainly would merit reconsideration. If China collapsed, then the calculus surrounding the world totally changes, including silver, but not just silver.

HAI:How should a retail investor approach silver as an investment?

Stephen Leeb: I would approach precious metals as an asset class in and of itself. As an asset class, you try and diversify within the class. There are the commodities themselves, which you can buy through an ETF or you can buy through coins. There are lots of ways of participating. There are senior miners. There are junior gold miners, like NovaGold, which happens to be one of my favorites. Not only does it mine gold, it has a lot of copper. There are going to be seniors like Goldcorp., like Barrick.

HAI:What would you suggest for an asset allocation in precious metals?

Stephen Leeb: It makes sense to weight it at least on the same level as you would weight stocks. Whatever your highest allocation is, precious metals should be higher than that allocation.

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