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wkk5159 posted on 18-11-2012 02:12 PM 
Fellow Christians, do you all find it amusing and entertaining when debating with muslims ? Anything ... Fellow Christians, do you all find it amusing and entertaining when debating with muslims ? Anything good will be claimed as their own and anything bad will belong to others...they sometime quote from old testament and criticize it without realising they are shooting their own feet as these verses are found in quran too. The more ridiculous and out-raging is when they try to quote from New Testament, really misquote them out of context...if you want sheer amusement, just drop by...you won't be disappointed.
Ha ha , now you are looking for supporters? Why , safety in numbers? You can even appeal to the Sai Baba it does not make any difference to me.
The issue now is that you cannot even respond to issues raised. Your arguments are just copy paste from answering Islam which is a poor site. The lead writer , Sam Shamoun does not even have a high school diploma. These are the kind of people that you and your ilk appeal to. When you cannot answer , you do what you do best , insult. This is evidence that you do not have any facts to begin with.
Your face must be scarlet in embarrassment.
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sam1528 posted on 18-11-2012 06:18 PM
Ha ha , now you are looking for supporters? Why , safety in numbers? You can even appeal to the ...
Ha ha , now you are looking for supporters? Why , safety in numbers? You can even appeal to the Sai Baba it does not make any difference to me.
The issue now is that you cannot even respond to issues raised. Your arguments are just copy paste from answering Islam which is a poor site. The lead writer , Sam Shamoun does not even have a high school diploma. These are the kind of people that you and your ilk appeal to. When you cannot answer , you do what you do best , insult. This is evidence that you do not have any facts to begin with.
Your face must be scarlet in embarrassment.
Just keep the embarassment to yourself, thank you, You need it more ! Who tell you to intervene when i talk to my fellow Christians ?
Sai Baba ? Ya lor, lots of muslims still believe in mystic beliefs and black magic....those bomoh performing ritual with the aids of quran come to mind.
I cannot respond with facts ?? Why accusing others of things that bugging you ? One obvious example is that you keep on asking which verses in Bible that portray Jesus as God, eventhough i have given you zillion of verses in the Bible which support this fact, you just keep coming back asking the same old dumb question as if you are illiterate or simply purposely ignoring the truth.
Hah ! Of course i copied and pasted some of my post, aren't you doing the same ? Don't pretend you are some kind of intellect here because it is quite obvious that you even have difficulty in appraising the most simplest truth in life, let alone qualify to debate the Biblical truth here.
Of course i refer to some Christian sites but most importantly i refer mostly to Ex-Muslim website where members of enlightened Ex-Muslim and even former Islamic Imam who know quran better than say...the average joe like you, provide a great help to me.
What ? You muslims even can't out debate a under-educated guy by the name of Sam Shamoun ?
Pathetic ! I think it's time you re-examine your faith !
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wkk5159 posted on 18-11-2012 09:45 PM
Ha ha , now you are looking for supporters? Why , safety in numbers? You can even appeal to the Sa ... Just keep the embarassment to yourself, thank you, You need it more ! Who tell you to intervene when i talk to my fellow Christians ?
Sai Baba ? Ya lor, lots of muslims still believe in mystic beliefs and black magic....those bomoh performing ritual with the aids of quran come to mind.
I cannot respond with facts ?? Why accusing others of things that bugging you ? One obvious example is that you keep on asking which verses in Bible that portray Jesus as God, eventhough i have given you zillion of verses in the Bible which support this fact, you just keep coming back asking the same old dumb question as if you are illiterate or simply purposely ignoring the truth.
Hah ! Of course i copied and pasted some of my post, aren't you doing the same ? Don't pretend you are some kind of intellect here because it is quite obvious that you even have difficulty in appraising the most simplest truth in life, let alone qualify to debate the Biblical truth here.
Of course i refer to some Christian sites but most importantly i refer mostly to Ex-Muslim website where members of enlightened Ex-Muslim and even former Islamic Imam who know quran better than say...the average joe like you, provide a great help to me.
What ? You muslims even can't out debate a under-educated guy by the name of Sam Shamoun ?
Pathetic ! I think it's time you re-examine your faith !
Appears that the embarrassment in only on your part. You just cannot respond to any issues but choose to copy paste from sites like 'answering islam' but too dishonest to provide the link to your copy paste. We call this intellectual dishonesty. Oh , you mean joh1:1 that portray biblical Jesus being God? Did I not respond with the issue of interpretation of 'logos'? So far nothing from you. You cannot even debate when counter challenged. This shows that you really don't know your own bible.
Hmm , as far as I know Christians have stronger beliefs in the supernatural (including bomohs). The recent 'window appearance' of a certain figure at SJMC confirm such.
The only argument so far from you is that 'ooooh you cannot appraise the simpliest truth in life'. Too bad , its the other way around actually , for example , the bible / historians stated / confirmed that Golgotha was / is outside ancient Jerusalem. You , without any facts still insist it was / is inside ancient Jerusalem. We call this tye of argument , arguing from silliness.
Yeah , yeah copy paste from ex muslim sites , however too scared to provide the links. Too bad for you , such BS like 'pretend that Codex Alexandrinus = Dead Sea Scrolls to bait me' type of argument / damage control will not work. Sam Shamoun , a 40 odd yrs old guy got his butt kicked by a 20 yrs old muslim kid ; here.
I dunno , when I reexamine my faith I find it consistent with evidence and logic. However you cannot even explain just how '3 fully Gods in 'the father' + 'the son' + 'the holy spirit' can suddenly become 1 fully God.
How come you're not telling me that you will be praying for me?
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by wkk5159
COMMENT
As I've studied both of these men's lives, I find that the above comparison details some of the strongest character differences. Here are their dying words, words that will mark the end of their lives. Christ asks God to forgive His enemies, while Muhammad utters a bitter curse against those who rejected his assertion of prophethood. Wouldn't it have been more appropriate for Muhammad to ask Allah to guide the Christians and Jews while he was dying?
I have one question - Why study life of Muhammad (a mortal) and Jesus (a man claim to be a god, at least by his followers) when the true spiritual progress should be by studying the nature of God?
Islam is false because Muhammad force his followers to adapt the way of a mortal life (his own) as spiritual guide and Jesus is false because he did not provide a way to live a mortal life. Both are failed example of spiritual guides - my opinion. |
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sam1528 posted on 19-11-2012 09:03 AM
Appears that the embarrassment in only on your part. You just cannot respond to any issues but c ...
Come on ! God is not physical being like you and me and even Muhammad. If you add up three of us 1+1+1=3, that's simple mathematic equation in physical world. But in spiritual world, Father, Son and Holy Spirit are all spirit and when they combine they become one ! I think i gave you a simple analogy in my older reply where i gave the example of water, steam and ice, they might look different but they are all H2O. Again, you keep the blind eyes to my reply and keep on cycling in the cycle and ask the same old dumb question. Who is commiting intellectual dishonesty here or simply your eyes just cloaked by evil spirit that you cannot see the truth.
On the part of ex-muslim site, don't show me the ostrich psychology, those ex-muslim had exposed all the ugly truth about Islam. I just can't reveal the website as muslim and muslim countries in particular are not tolerant towards criticsm of their religion unlike secular west. Some of the websites are even banned and censored by Malaysian government already. So much for the religious freedom in a cult called Islam !
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Sephiroth posted on 19-11-2012 09:19 AM
by wkk5159
You are free to express your view on God, you seems to be a rational person, so be open minded when searching for truth, i believe you will find one which suits you at the end.
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wkk5159 posted on 19-11-2012 09:50 AM
You are free to express your view on God, you seems to be a rational person, so be open minded whe ...
Spiritualism is not about what suits you. Spiritualism is about finding God. Finding what suits you is finding religion. Religion and God are not the same. 
And you still didn't answer the question - why study Muhammad and Jesus when you should be studying (the nature of) God?
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Sephiroth posted on 19-11-2012 10:26 AM
Spiritualism is not about what suits you. Spiritualism is about finding God. Finding what suits yo ...
To answer your question, let me start off by telling you that i'm a Christian and not long ago i was an atheist, i became a Christian because i believe God in the Bible meet my expectation of God. You might not agree with me as everybody understanding and acceptance of truth varies.
On the thread of Differences between Jesus and Muhammad, this is purely for the comparison of personalities between Jesus and Muhammad. Everyone is welcome to comment. If you go to Chinese forum, i discuss other religions and philosophies as well.
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wkk5159 posted on 19-11-2012 10:46 AM
To answer your question, let me start off by telling you that i'm a Christian and not long ago i w ...
Praise the Lord....glad you now christian
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Truth.8 posted on 19-11-2012 12:04 PM
Praise the Lord....glad you now christian
Amen ! Glad to know you too.
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by wkk5159
To answer your question, let me start off by telling you that i'm a Christian and not long ago i was an atheist, i became a Christian because i believe God in the Bible meet my expectation of God.
I see ... You believe because your God met your expectation. Makes perfect sense. 
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God sent Jesus to the Israelite,
They reject him only a few followed
God sent Muhammad to the Arabs, Israelite and all mankind
The Arab rejects, the Israelite rejects and so do all mankind
Only few numbers of each followed
When both of the Divine Message being forgotten
The Messiah will descend and bare witness of his followers
Returns to the holy land as King
from the throne of David and Solomon
The eyes are set near to the center stage
To re-open Constantinople with a massive bloodbath... |
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The eyes are set near to the center stage
To re-open Constantinople with a massive bloodbath...
Sorry, time's up. It won't happen because your time (Muslims') is over. |
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wkk5159 posted on 19-11-2012 09:44 AM
Come on ! God is not physical being like you and me and even Muhammad. If you add up three of us 1 ... Come on ! God is not physical being like you and me and even Muhammad. If you add up three of us 1+1+1=3, that's simple mathematic equation in physical world. But in spiritual world, Father, Son and Holy Spirit are all spirit and when they combine they become one ! I think i gave you a simple analogy in my older reply where i gave the example of water, steam and ice, they might look different but they are all H2O. Again, you keep the blind eyes to my reply and keep on cycling in the cycle and ask the same old dumb question. Who is commiting intellectual dishonesty here or simply your eyes just cloaked by evil spirit that you cannot see the truth.
On the part of ex-muslim site, don't show me the ostrich psychology, those ex-muslim had exposed all the ugly truth about Islam. I just can't reveal the website as muslim and muslim countries in particular are not tolerant towards criticsm of their religion unlike secular west. Some of the websites are even banned and censored by Malaysian government already. So much for the religious freedom in a cult called Islam !
Isn't the trinity made up of 3 different entities? Your argument of ice , water and vapour (ie H20) means that to you , the Triune God is 1 in member rather than 1 in unity and having 1 personality meaning that the 3 different entities does not co exist at the same time. This is modalism which is rejected the people who uphold the Doctrine of Trinity. I don't know guy , appears that your understanding of the Triune God is 'songsang' or way off mark. BTW , where did you learn that 3 spirits can combine to become 1 spirit?
Ha ha , now is 'cannot reveal the website'? This is a farce. Hey , we are living in the 21 century , there are proxy servers to mask off the ip's if you want to view sites that have been blocked by any government. There is something not right with you.
The so called 'cult problem' comes back to you. You have biblical verses that calls for the execution of apostates and christians in the past have done so. If you say christians do not follow the injunction anymore , that means the bible is irrelevant nowadays. How?
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Arguing with a pig headed muslim is both seemingly unproductive and entertaining at the same time, they try to use their erratic definition of God to interpret the Biblical God.....how pathetic ! Ever wonder why all the Islamic countries are in the pathetic state they are having at the moment ? Later of course somebody will give you some twisted crap like all the Middle East countries are manipulated by the west and their governments are all installed by the west....truly laughable ! I don't know what sort of news he is reading but something that i'm pretty sure is Saddam Hussein toppled by US in Iraq and a new pro US gov ? Kuwait is pro US(because US saves them from Iraqi invasion). After Arab Spring in middlie east, with the toppling of Hosni Mubarak in Egypt and Gaddafi in Libya, there are actually danger of islamic fundamentalists taking over the reigns as new government in these countries. i just can't think of any western puppet, don't quote Kuwait, UAE or Qatar as US ally as they are still conservative islamic countries even though fair better than Saudi and Iran.....Unless that master of fact twister want to quote Iran as US ally......
Last time when i gave the fact that how come no islamic countries ever ranked inside top 20 of Corruption Perception Index(CPI) and Transparency International Index, one ignorant imbecile was quoting as saying; "this is all western faults, see who install all the puppet government in middle east . " So, now you all know why i said debating with muslim is futile and amusing at the same time.....
No sane human being with pure conscience will ever consider islam as their faith when you look at their track record of human rights. Just google on any human rights website you will find atrocities commited by muslim are topping the chart. There are only 4 kinds of people still believe in Islam;
1. No human conscience and naturally more gravitated towards evil.
2. Naive and ignorant, who think any religion is good and do no harm.
3. Born of muslim parents and automatically become muslims .
4. Married a muslim partner. Last edited by wkk5159 on 20-11-2012 03:57 PM
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sam1528 posted on 19-11-2012 06:50 PM
Isn't the trinity made up of 3 different entities? Your argument of ice , water and vapour (ie H ...
sn't the trinity made up of 3 different entities? Your argument of ice , water and vapour (ie H20) means that to you , the Triune God is 1 in member rather than 1 in unity and having 1 personality meaning that the 3 different entities does not co exist at the same time. This is modalism which is rejected the people who uphold the Doctrine of Trinity. I don't know guy , appears that your understanding of the Triune God is 'songsang' or way off mark. BTW , where did you learn that 3 spirits can combine to become 1 spirit?
"I and the Father are one." ( John 10:30)
"I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. If you know me, you will know my Father also." ( John 14:6-7)
But Jesus answered them, 'My Father is working still, and I am still working.' This was why the Jews sought all the more to kill him, because he not only broke the sabbath, but also called God his own Father, making himself equal with God. ( John 5:16-18)
"Whoever hates me hates my Father also." ( John 15:23)
"If I am not doing the works of my Father, then do not believe me; but if I do them, even though you do not believe me, believe the works, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me and I am in the Father." ( John 10:37-38)
"Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? The words that I say to you I do not speak on my own authority; but the Father who dwells in me does his works." ( John 14:10)
But i think somebody later will sure going to quote that agent of Satan Zakir Naik by saying; nah, not like this $#@ lah , nah, not like that *%&# lah kind of crap again....
Ha ha , now is 'cannot reveal the website'? This is a farce. Hey , we are living in the 21 century , there are proxy servers to mask off the ip's if you want to view sites that have been blocked by any government. There is something not right with you.
There is nothing wrong with me except that the truth is that there is no religious freedom and serious breach of human right in islamic countries, even an atheist can attest to that. You think everybody knows or got the resources to use proxy servers ??? Don't argue anymore, the fact is that only Islam oppress religious freedom.
The so called 'cult problem' comes back to you. You have biblical verses that calls for the execution of apostates and christians in the past have done so. If you say christians do not follow the injunction anymore , that means the bible is irrelevant nowadays. How?
Killing of apostasy is almost unheard of in Christianity. The funny things about googling for killing of apostate in Christianity is that i bumped into sites which portray nothing but killing of apostates in Islam; for example : www.amnestyusa.org/news/news-item/Iranian-Christian, www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/012-apostasy.html, english.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/05/09/213157.html
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wkk5159 posted on 20-11-2012 11:55 AM
Arguing with a pig headed muslim is both seemingly unproductive and entertaining at the same time, t ... Arguing with a pig headed muslim is both seemingly unproductive and entertaining at the same time, they try to use their erratic definition of God to interpret the Biblical God.....how pathetic ! Ever wonder why all the Islamic countries are in the pathetic state they are having at the moment ? Later of course somebody will give you some twisted crap like all the Middle East countries are manipulated by the west and their governments are all installed by the west....truly laughable ! I don't know what sort of news he is reading but something that i'm pretty sure is Saddam Hussein toppled by US in Iraq and a new pro US gov ? Kuwait is pro US(because US saves them from Iraqi invasion). After Arab Spring in middlie east, with the toppling of Hosni Mubarak in Egypt and Gaddafi in Libya, there are actually danger of islamic fundamentalists taking over the reigns as new government in these countries. i just can't think of any western puppet, don't quote Kuwait, UAE or Qatar as US ally as they are still conservative islamic countries even though fair better than Saudi and Iran.....Unless that master of fact twister want to quote Iran as US ally......
Last time when i gave the fact that how come no islamic countries ever ranked inside top 20 of Corruption Perception Index(CPI) and Transparency International Index, one ignorant imbecile was quoting as saying; "this is all western faults, see who install all the puppet government in middle east . " So, now you all know why i said debating with muslim is futile and amusing at the same time.....
No sane human being with pure conscience will ever consider islam as their faith when you look at their track record of human rights. Just google on any human rights website you will find atrocities commited by muslim are topping the chart. There are only 4 kinds of people still believe in Islam;
1. No human conscience and naturally more gravitated towards evil.
2. Naive and ignorant, who think any religion is good and do no harm.
3. Born of muslim parents and automatically become muslims .
4. Married a muslim partner.
Ha ha , you are just berating like a pig headed bigot. Now you are arguing from speculation. The definition of your God comes from your sources , ie. the triune God. Somehow you cannot answer , you go around steaming you head off. This is again extremely poor.
Err , if you read history you will know that it was the western powers who divided the ME to their whims and fancies and installed their own puppet regimes. Oh yeah , you don't even know history. Show me which christian nation is tops in the Corruption Perception Index. Christian nation means the constitutiuon is based on the bible and having biblical laws. The only so called 'christian nation' is the sovereign land belonging to the Vatican. Just look at the sex related scandals hitting them , every year there are new cases cropping up.
If you want to look at human rights , hey the USA is leading it with torture centres all over the world and having at least a war every 2 years from the last 150 yrs. The president was / is always christian. Lets review the real data on terrorism , data taken from EUROPOL
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Again it has been shown that you are just farting thru your mouth. What's new .....
You have lost in each and every point. Now you are just a sore loser.
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wkk5159 posted on 20-11-2012 03:53 PM
sn't the trinity made up of 3 different entities? Your argument of ice , water and vapour (ie H20) ... "I and the Father are one." ( John 10:30)
"I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. If you know me, you will know my Father also." ( John 14:6-7)
But Jesus answered them, 'My Father is working still, and I am still working.' This was why the Jews sought all the more to kill him, because he not only broke the sabbath, but also called God his own Father, making himself equal with God. ( John 5:16-18)
"Whoever hates me hates my Father also." ( John 15:23)
"If I am not doing the works of my Father, then do not believe me; but if I do them, even though you do not believe me, believe the works, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me and I am in the Father." ( John 10:37-38)
"Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? The words that I say to you I do not speak on my own authority; but the Father who dwells in me does his works." ( John 14:10)
But i think somebody later will sure going to quote that agent of Satan Zakir Naik by saying; nah, not like this $#@ lah , nah, not like that *%&# lah kind of crap again....
The issue now is that your example of ice , water and steam (H2O) is modalism. If you don't understand what is modalism , do look it up. You need to educate yourself. Modalism is rejected by trinitarians. You gave a lot of verses but none revealed any context of biblical Jesus claiming to be God. Lets just take a sample of 1 verse from the above mentioned verses : joh5:16-18. Verses 27 and 30 answers your claims :
joh5:27 '..And he has given him authority to judge because he is the Son of Man..'
joh5:30 '..By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me..'
He was just given authority , he can do nothing on his own but seek to please God who sent him. You need to scratch your head and ask yourself : can a God be given authority as he can do nothing by himself but seek to please the one (another God) who sent him? This is an impotent 'God'. Did you attend Dr Naik's talk in KL recently? If not I suggest you vew his debate with Dr William Campbell. Do tell me what you think of it. Ha ha ....
There is nothing wrong with me except that the truth is that there is no religious freedom and serious breach of human right in islamic countries, even an atheist can attest to that. You think everybody knows or got the resources to use proxy servers ??? Don't argue anymore, the fact is that only Islam oppress religious freedom.
Just give an example where there is no religious freedom, don't just fart from your mouth. I ask again , give me a name of a peaceful apostate that had been executed by the state under shariah law due to him being a peaceful apostate. So far none from you. Why don't you google for Michael Servetus? Hmm , we have the bible in the OT and NT that calls for the execution of apostates but you just turn a blind eye. The Quran is silent on such. Therefore we can conclude that Christianity oppress religious freedom , the Christian God says so in the bible. How come you never address these issues?
Just google on how to use proxy servers ... not that difficult ... is it?
Are you sure killing of apostates is unheard in Christianity? What about the inquisition , Michael Servetus etc? Hmm, the sites you mentioned cannot even be viewed except the last one. Sentencing is one , carrying out the sentence is another. My question still stand - name one peaceful apostate that was executed by the state under shariah for being a peaceful apostate. BTW , how can a cleric issue a death sentence without proper trial? A cleric cannot even issue a fatwa. Dodgy isn't it?
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Sephiroth posted on 19-11-2012 04:17 PM
by Dzulqarnain
By Sephiroth
Huh?
Meaning, the follower of Jesus will retrieve back Constantinople from Isetanbul
This is when the Antichrist and its army will retaliate...
U know the history of Isetanbul, right?
- The secular Turks
Note: The follower of Jesus not include the Western Roman Pagans...
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sam1528 posted on 20-11-2012 06:59 PM
Ha ha , you are just berating like a pig headed bigot. Now you are arguing from speculation. The ...
Ha ha , you are just berating like a pig headed bigot. Now you are arguing from speculation. The definition of your God comes from your sources , ie. the triune God. Somehow you cannot answer , you go around steaming you head off. This is again extremely poor.
Who do you muslim think you are to define triune God ? For sure you cannot solve the mystery of God if you keep on using islamic satanic way of denying true God. Even if i answer a zillion times also you will find ridiculous excuses to reject it... it is futile as long as that person still clinging to that dangerous cult called Islam.
Err , if you read history you will know that it was the western powers who divided the ME to their whims and fancies and installed their own puppet regimes. Oh yeah , you don't even know history. Show me which christian nation is tops in the Corruption Perception Index. Christian nation means the constitutiuon is based on the bible and having biblical laws. The only so called 'christian nation' is the sovereign land belonging to the Vatican. Just look at the sex related scandals hitting them , every year there are new cases cropping up.
It is exactly like i said in my last reply that you will give the same reply without historical fact and the same rhetoric whinning ..."western power install ME puppet". ...bla bla bla...It is amazing how Islam can turn a normal human being into a deceptive maglinant human being.
When someone cannot refute the poor CPI rating that islamic countries are getting. He starts to argue with the nonsense like;" a Christian nation means that the constitution must be based on the bible and having biblical laws".
You idiot ! You either really stupid or pretend to be really naive and ignorant ! All Christian nations in the world had practised separation of state and religion long time ago, a Christian nation of course technically refering to a country whereby its population is predominantly professing Christian faith. According to Transparency International, in 2011 , New Zealand topping the chart follow by Denmark, Finland, Sweden, Singapore(many Christians and also Buddhist/Taoist), Norway ......for further result one can refer to http://cpi.transparency.org/cpi2011/results/. It is interesting to note that among the top 20 nations, Christians nation occupy 17 and the other three are Singapore, Hong Kong(also many Christians) and also Japan(perdominantly Shinto and Buddhism). The best islamic country in 2011 ranking is UAE with 28 placing(at least i am honest and sincere in complimenting UAE for being the least corrupt among all islamic countries).
What ? You want to quote sex scandals from Vantican, truly pathetic ! Want me to teach you some more ? Why don't you also quote the sex scandals of medieval RC church whereby their pope even had illegimate kids ! Don't expose other peoples scars when you don't have to look further, just look at your very own local imam and ustaz.....dare to expose their sex scandals ? Since you started the sex scandals thingy, i might as well quote your beloved founder of islamic faith, Muhammad.....He married Aisya when she was 6 years old and consummate the marriage when she was 9 years old ! Can you all imagine that the founder of Islam is a Paedophile ! A Paedophile and A Sex Maniac !.....let along revealing the list of women he married and raped ! Truly vile and repulsive !
If you want to look at human rights , hey the USA is leading it with torture centres all over the world and having at least a war every 2 years from the last 150 yrs. The president was / is always christian. Lets review the real data on terrorism , data taken from EUROPOL
Again it has been shown that you are just farting thru your mouth. What's new .....
You have lost in each and every point. Now you are just a sore loser.
It is nice to find out that when someone is run out of idea to debate you and eventually so desperate in digging out the references without truly understanding the chart and shooting their own foot. Left Wing, Separatist and Right Wings...aren't these are all political and got nothing to do with religion ? But if you study the chart carefully, only Islamists are the only religious group to be portrayed on the chart. So, i have to thank you SAM1528 for being so generous in exposing the hideous truth about Islam.
It is exactly like what i said before, debating with muslims are both entertaining and futile at the same time. From the above respond, it only consolidate my point that muslims is only for that 4 group of people.
I don't hate muslims because i find them just victims of a evil cult called Islam. This is reminiscent of something which the British Islam-Expert and former Sharia Jurist Sam Solomon told Dispatch International some times ago: Islam is forced to be constantly on the attack because it cannot defend itself. He pointed out that Islam cannot withstand objective scrutiny of its holy scripture and history. If people really take an interest in Koran's contradiction and nonsense, Islam's spokesmen will have no answer. According to Sam Solomon, they are well aware of this fact and and must therefore always be on the offensive with threats and indoctrination in order to dissuade people from entertaining any doubts.
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