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The spirit squeezed him more tightly. Is this how angel do that??
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Originally posted by Sephiroth at 09:56 AM:
Only in Muhammad's time, Gabriel reveal his true form and send Muhammad to a coma for a week.
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that shows it not angel lah.
muslims always believed in Jinn. jinn lah |
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by Truth.8
in india or in malaysia i c many self promoted sami/or the holy men but taking huge money....like u lah
Yeah true ... well, up to me taking money part. I don't take someone's money without them knowing it.
That is why I said that there is No prophets and no one speaks in behalf of God. :no:
If God wants to say something to you, He could deliver the message through me. That doesn't mean I'm a prophet, it just means I'm a tool which He could use to deliver a message.
Just like a post box where a letter is stacked up for the readers to take and read. It doesn't mean that the post box is speaking to them, it just means that it is performing its task.
Unfortunately in your community, every tom, dick and harry could come forth and claim themselves to be a prophet just so they could get a quick publicity.
And you have yet to answer my question on who is this so-called prophets who works even today.
by snipersnake
ok sephiroth..its shows that muhammad is the last of the prophets.no prophtes shall come after him..what these people..save the best for the last
Hmph ... ;) Your Last Prophet is a freaking coward. ;)
Moses were scared when he sees a burning bush speaking to him, but he didn't run. He knelt down and seeks God's protection toward something he thought was supernatural force.
You can get half a dozen accounts of Men seeing both Angels and God personally in your Al Quran and none of them turn tail and run. Best they do is knelt down and seek God's protection.
Here comes the Last Prophet who so scared, that the ONLY way Gabriel could keep him in one place long enough to give the messange is by hugging him.
Your Last Prophets seems to be the worse Prophet in Al Quran, as far as I see it. ;) |
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Originally posted by Truth.8 at 12-12-2004 07:02 PM:
that shows it not angel lah.
muslims always believed in Jinn. jinn lah
no..jins also cant declare or disguise themselves as the angels. |
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Originally posted by snipersnake at 01:25 PM:
no..jins also cant declare or disguise themselves as the angels.
even satan can come in as angel of light |
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Originally posted by Sephiroth at 12-12-2004 07:23 PM:
by Truth.8
in india or in malaysia i c many self promoted sami/or the holy men but taking huge money....like u lah
Yeah true ... well, up to me taking money part. I don't take someon ...
well, he DID see the angle in its true form..coward? i think not.y? because i think the thought of seeing an angel in its original form is kinda freaky..blame it on those angelic descriptions of having a saint on its head and a pair of wings.. |
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There is no logic to say that demons cannot disguise themselves as angels.
Maybe Mohamad mistook a demon for an angel.
Anyway, an angel wouldn't frighten a man so badly that he has suicidal tendencies for a few years. |
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.......and muhammad say to his beloved wife:
oh cover me cover me cover me
why muhammad so scared?? seeing demon at that cave?? |
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you got a point there...wasn't angel suppose to be beautiful...why so scare?
and seek cover from a women? wasn't it suppose to be the other way around?
[ Last edited by me on 13-12-2004 at 03:22 PM ] |
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Daniel 10
"7. I, Daniel, was the only one who saw the vision; the men with me did not see it, but such terror overwhelmed them that they fled and hid themselves.
8. So I was left alone, gazing at this great vision; I had no strength left, my face turned deathly pale and I was helpless."
Was't he scared to?
Or tell me if he was not one of your prophets... |
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Originally posted by kyas at 03:23 PM:
Daniel 10
"7. I, Daniel, was the only one who saw the vision; the men with me did not see it, but such terror overwhelmed them that they fled and hid themselves.
8. So I was left ...
hve u finised reading the entire Book of Daniel?? I believed NO.....as usual for muslims.
Does Prophet saw/or visited by Angel?? NO
ur Muhammad claimed it was so called angel visited him and yet he ran and asking his wife " cover me" so scared or angel or jinn the demon?? |
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Who did daniel meet?
[ Last edited by kyas on 13-12-2004 at 03:31 PM ] |
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Originally posted by me at 03:20 PM:
you got a point there...wasn't angel suppose to be beautiful...why so scare?
and seek cover from a women? wasn't it suppose to be the other way around?
[ Last edited by me on 13-12-2004 at 0 ...
surely it was not angel going in dark cave like that. secondly, how sure we can trust his words that things appeared in that cave?? nobody was they to wistness.:hmm: |
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Originally posted by kyas at 03:29 PM:
Who did daniel meet?
[ Last edited by kyas on 13-12-2004 at 03:31 PM ]
u should know if u hve read the Book of Daniel.
sudah tau saja buat tak tau. |
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tell me lah... teach me the bible |
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You must say sorry to us first. |
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just answer lah... why so difficult? |
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Originally posted by kyas at 13-12-2004 03:41 PM:
tell me lah... teach me the bible
i doubt it... |
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by snipersnake
well, he DID see the angle in its true form..coward? i think not.y? because i think the thought of seeing an angel in its original form is kinda freaky..blame it on those angelic descriptions of having a saint on its head and a pair of wings..
Angels supposed to be beautiful with Halo on their heads, beautiful and shining armors, big and beautiful wings, blazing swords and black Materia ... ehem ... forget the last one.
Anyway, no one descript Angels, messangers of God to be God-damned ugly that Man have to run and hide from them. Man most of the time hide their faces from Angels because of their own sins, not because the Angels are very ugly.
In Hindusm, Devas were descripted as Man-like beings in beautiful armour. And Elemental Spirits (born from the Elements) were descripted to be ugly with animalistic characteristics, but Hindu scriptures informs Hindus not to fear them because they, like Man, are around to do things for their Lord, Shiva.
There's also Demons (Asuras) but not all of them are not ugly. Some looks beautiful like Man, while some looks ugly like Bhuttas (Elementals). Same in Buddhism also.
I still think that Muhammad is a coward for running away and hide behind his wife. He didn't have the proper spiritual strenght needed to look upon an Angel. :no: |
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Originally posted by me at 2004-12-13 04:24 PM:
i doubt it...
it was a simple question... why so difficult to answer... share ur knowledge |
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Suicidal thots are evil. The source of suicidal thots must be evil too.
Since Muhamad had suiciddal thots bover a long period of time after he met Jabril, Jabril must then be a source of evil. Jabril could not have been from God. |
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Post time 13-12-2004 01:23 PM
