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Originally posted by sedondon at 4-10-2006 10:18 AM
Paranoid - by Black Sabbath
not part of my teaching.
Just plain sabbath |
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So...u are teaching Rotting Christ? |
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Its for them.
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Than again Jews are number 1 peoples in many fields. why? They are God fearing peoples and Kept weekly sabbath, annual sabbath and etc.
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Soooooo... you want to become like them? why dont you stay at Israel.
Annual Sabbath? Such as?
How come sabbath have annual? its seventh-day right?
that fact islamic teachings have blend of pagan roots
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You say that because before this you are pagan.
oneness until bowing to an object? all this abominations to True God. those facing direction kiblat was practised by pagan arabs long time ago . is not part of God sayings.
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Hey... did we say Kaaba is GOD?
Is not my fait, it corrupt christians knows as RC
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Hehehehee... But every church have it right.
yes, i kept all 10 commandements written by God
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Are you follow the first and second commandment?
You said that you keep the sabbath. Do you fasting? |
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Its for them.
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oh really? u failed to explained this:
God commanded it: "Blessed is the man ... that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it." "Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to the Lord, ... every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant; Even them will I bring to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in my house of prayer ... for mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people." Isaiah 56:2, 6, 7, emphasis added.
who is son of the stranger?? for jews??
note: all peoples, which is all peoples? jews??all peoples mean all nations include muslims who have depart from Sabbath and polluting Sabbath to friday and modern christians polluting Sabbath to sunday.
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Soooooo... you want to become like them? why dont you stay at Israel.
Annual Sabbath? Such as?
How come sabbath have annual? its seventh-day right?
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I do not have to be like them but I want to obey God words
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You say that because before this you are pagan.
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did not malays ancestors also hindu?
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Hey... did we say Kaaba is GOD?
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bowing to an object direct or indirectly is wrong
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Hehehehee... But every church have it right.
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which chruch? RC and vatican right?
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Are you follow the first and second commandment?
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all
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You said that you keep the sabbath. Do you fasting?
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does my topic got anything to do with fasting? |
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fist want to ask before answer..
Do sabbath have annual sabbath? |
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Originally posted by i212 at 4-10-2006 02:04 PM
fist want to ask before answer..
Do sabbath have annual sabbath?
yup, weekly sabbath and annual sabbath |
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But ...
Before this you said SABBATH is the SEVENTH-DAY. Day that GOD Rest.
How come you can have annual Sabbath.
Is God rest that Time too? |
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Can you give the REAL DEFINITION OF SABBATH.
IS IT THE SEVENTH-DAY OR THE HOLY DAY. |
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Originally posted by i212 at 4-10-2006 02:16 PM
Can you give the REAL DEFINITION OF SABBATH.
IS IT THE SEVENTH-DAY OR THE HOLY DAY.
i hve given u the link and study it because it explaine in details God Holy festivals as well God weekly Sabbath |
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What I understand,
Sabbath is a HOLY DAY.
But after asking and answering you..
Firts, Its Seem like Sabath that you mention is THE SEVENTH-DAY.
but now you said you have ANNUAL SABBATH. its contradict.
SO ANSWER ME IN SIMPLE ANSWER BEFORE WE GO ON.
IS SABBATH MEANS
1) SEVENTH-DAY OF THE WEEK WHERE GOD RESTED.
2) A HOLY DAY FOR REMEMBERING GOD. |
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Originally posted by i212 at 4-10-2006 02:42 PM
What I understand,
Sabbath is a HOLY DAY.
But after asking and answering you..
Firts, Its Seem like Sabath that you mention is THE SEVENTH-DAY.
but now you said you have ANNUAL SABBATH. its contradict.
SO ANSWER ME IN SIMPLE ANSWER BEFORE WE GO ON.
IS SABBATH MEANS
1) SEVENTH-DAY OF THE WEEK WHERE GOD RESTED.
2) A HOLY DAY FOR REMEMBERING GOD.
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which one contradict? i says weekly sabbath and annual sabbath. is that contridct? |
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which one contradict? i says weekly sabbath and annual sabbath. is that contridct?
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If you say SABBATH DAY = SEVENTH-DAY (DAY OF GOD RESTED)
ITS JUST WEEKLY.
HOW COME IT CAN BECOME ANNUALLY. |
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Originally posted by i212 at 4-10-2006 03:28 PM
which one contradict? i says weekly sabbath and annual sabbath. is that contridct?
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If you say SABBATH DAY = SEVENTH-DAY (DAY OF GOD RESTED)
ITS JUST WEEKLY.
HOW COME ...
weekly sabbath is seventh day
annual sabbath :
The seven annual Holy Days are annual Sabbaths. They are holy convocations, or commanded assemblies, of God's people. These days are holy because they are sanctified (set apart) by God. He commands His people to assemble for worship and to learn about Him and His plan. His command goes further than worship only; it includes fellowshipping and rejoicing together (Leviticus 23:1-4; Deuteronomy 14:23-26; Nehemiah 8:1-12).
The New Testament record shows the continuity of observance of these days by Jesus Christ and the Church. Jesus observed these festivals, and we as His followers are told to walk as He walked (John 7:8-14; 1 John 2:6). The New Testament Church began on an annual festival?he Day of Pentecost (Acts 2:1-4). The apostles and disciples of the early Church continued to observe these festivals long after Jesus' death and resurrection (Acts 18:21; 20:16; 27:9; 1 Corinthians 5:8). Paul upholds their observance and presents them as continuing "shadows" or outlines of the great events in God's plan of salvation that are yet to be fulfilled (Colossians 2:16-17). He also instructed the congregation in Corinth, "Let us keep the feast" (1 Corinthians 5:8).
Through the observance of these feasts, God's people focus on and are reminded throughout the year of the work of Jesus the Messiah. It is through preaching the gospel of the Kingdom of God and the divine calling to a new way of life (John 6:44) that we see the building up of the Church as the family of God. Through Christ as our focal point, we begin to understand the special meaning behind the annual feasts.
During the course of the seven annual festivals are seven Holy Days, which are annual Sabbaths. These Holy Days are the first and last days of Unleavened Bread, the Feast of Pentecost, the Feast of Trumpets, the Day of Atonement, the first day of the Feast of Tabernacles and the Last Great Day. Although the Passover is a festival, it is not an annual Sabbath.
The plan of salvation as revealed in the Holy Scriptures is pictured in the meaning of these seven annual festivals.
The Passover teaches us that Jesus Christ was sinless and, as the true Lamb of God, gave His life so that the sins of humanity could be forgiven and the death penalty removed (1 Corinthians 5:7; 1 Peter 1:18-20; Romans 3:25). Passover, although not observed as a Holy Day, is the first festival of the year.
The Feast of Unleavened Bread teaches us that we have been called to reject lawlessness and repent of sin. We are to live by every word of God and according to the teachings of Jesus Christ (1 Corinthians 5:8; Matthew 4:4). During this festival, leaven symbolizes sin and, as such, is removed from our homes for the seven days of the festival (1 Corinthians 5:7-8; Exodus 12:19). By eating unleavened bread we picture living a life of sincerity and truth, free from sin.
The Feast of Pentecost, or firstfruits, teaches us that Jesus Christ came to build His Church. This festival pictures the coming of the Holy Spirit and the establishment of the Church. The firstfruits are those who will be given salvation at the return of Christ. They have been empowered with the Holy Spirit, which creates in each one a new heart and nature to live by the commandments of God (Exodus 23:16; Acts 2:1-4, 37-39; 5:32; James 1:18).
The Feast of Trumpets teaches us that Jesus Christ will visibly return to the earth at the end of this age. At that time He will resurrect the saints who are no longer living and instantly change those saints who are still alive to immortal spirit beings (Matthew 24:31; 1 Corinthians 15:52-53; 1 Thessalonians 4:13-17). This festival commemorates the blowing of the trumpets that will precede His return. Seven angels with seven trumpets are described in Revelation 8-10. Christ will return with the blowing of the seventh trumpet (Revelation 11:15).
The Day of Atonement teaches us that Jesus Christ gave His life to atone for the sins of all mankind. It also points to the time when Satan will be bound for 1,000 years (Leviticus 16:29-30, 20-22; Revelation 20:1-3). This Holy Day pictures our High Priest, Jesus Christ, making atonement for our sins, which allows us to be reconciled to God and enter into the "holiest of all" (Hebrews 9:8-14; 10:19-20). By fasting on this day, we draw closer to God and picture the reconciliation of mankind to God. Christ is essential in this process as our High Priest (Hebrews 4:14-15; 5:4-5, 10) and as our eternal sacrifice for sin (Hebrews 9:26-28).
The Feast of Tabernacles teaches us that when Jesus Christ returns, a new society will be established with Christ as King of Kings and Lord of Lords. Christ, assisted by the resurrected saints, will set up His government on the earth for 1,000 years (Revelation 19:11-16; 20:4; Leviticus 23:39-43; Matthew 17:1-4; Hebrews 11:8-9). Rule under His laws will spread from Jerusalem throughout the world to usher in an unprecedented period of peace and prosperity (Isaiah 2:2-4; Daniel 2:35, 44; 7:13-14).
The Last Great Day, or eighth day, teaches us that Jesus Christ will complete His harvest of humans by raising from the dead and extending salvation to all human beings who have died in the past and have never been given a full opportunity for salvation (Ezekiel 37:1-14; Romans 11:25-27; Luke 11:31-32; Revelation 20:11-13).
The annual cycle of the celebration of the festivals and Holy Days reminds Christ's disciples that He is working out His plan of extending salvation from sin and death and offering the gift of eternal life in the family of God to all humanity?ast, present and future. |
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which one contradict? i says weekly sabbath and annual sabbath. is that contridct?
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If you say SABBATH DAY = SEVENTH-DAY (DAY OF GOD RESTED)
ITS JUST WEEKLY.
HOW COME IT CAN BECOME ANNUALLY. |
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Originally posted by i212 at 4-10-2006 04:00 PM
which one contradict? i says weekly sabbath and annual sabbath. is that contridct?
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If you say SABBATH DAY = SEVENTH-DAY (DAY OF GOD RESTED)
ITS JUST WEEKLY.
HOW COME ...
i hve posted the annual sabbath. |
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THATS MEAN SABBATH FOR YOU NOT THE SEVENTH-DAY.... ITS THE HOLY DAY. RIGHT? |
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Originally posted by i212 at 4-10-2006 04:32 PM
THATS MEAN SABBATH FOR YOU NOT THE SEVENTH-DAY.... ITS THE HOLY DAY. RIGHT?
it seems u do not understand what i post
bye |
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by Truth.8
U think Jewish are stupid and u are clever? Jews been practising Sabbath since long time ago. None of Jews observed Sunday.
No, I think you're stupid. No one said Jews observed Sabbath on Sunday. ;)
God says keep Sabbath holy and sancify it. read my thread begining not going to rewrite long words here.
Then go and tell the International Community to stop using words like "Ahad", Sunday etc to describe the seventh day of the week and start using Sabbath Day. ;)
abaraham not sure? how u know? from Adam right to Jesus all observed Sabbath.
I said I'm not sure Adam was a Jew or not. There was no Jew, Christian, Muslims, Hindus etc when Man first walk on the Planet. :no:
Abraham observed Sabbath because he is JEW. Muhammad or Muslims DO NOT need to observe Sabbath because they are NOT Jews. :no:
Are u saying u can earn dishonest living??
Answer the Question - Where in above verse did it say ANYTHING about Sabbath? :agr:
that why all pagan roots are confused religion because they have corrupt Sabbath.
ONLY one confused here is Christians. They try hard to stick to Jewish Practise when they follow Roman Beliefs of God having kids. ;) |
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Dey TRUTH.8....
I WANT THE EXPLANATION.
FIRST YOU SAY SABBATH IS SEVENTH-DAY.
NOW YOU SAY SABBATH HAVE ANNUALLY.
WHICH ONE IS TRUE?
SABBATH MEANS THE SEVENTH-DAY OR
SABBATH MEANS THE HOLY DAY.
I AM CONFUSE AND NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.
IF YOU SAY SABBATH IS THE SEVENTH-DAY THEN WHY SHOULD HAVE THE ANNUAL SABBATH?
IN TORAH ERA, JEWS OBSERVE THE SEVENTH-DAY(SATURDAY) OR WHAT THEY CALL WEEKLY SABBATH DAY.
THERE ARE COMMAND BY JESUS FOR ANNUAL HOLY DAY THAT YOU ALSO CALL SABBATH DAY.
SO, ITS MEAN SABBATH DAY IS THE HOLY DAY FOR THE PEOPLE. NOT ONLY THE SEVENTH-DAY. RIGHT
CAN YOU GIVE A GOOD EXPLANATION ON THAT?
WHY FIRST YOU SAID SABBATH DAY MEANS SEVENTH-DAY
AND AFTER THAT YOU SAY YOU HAVE ANNUAL SABBATH. |
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Sephiroth:
No, I think you're stupid. No one said Jews observed Sabbath on Sunday.
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So, what is problem now?? The Jews and rest of Gentiles observed Sabbath.
Read this :
God commanded it: "Blessed is the man ... that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it." "Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to the Lord, ... every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant; Even them will I bring to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in my house of prayer ... for mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people." Isaiah 56:2, 6, 7, emphasis added.
In this verses God says all should observed Sabbath include sons of the stranger. Not only Jews but all nations.
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Sephiroth:
Then go and tell the International Community to stop using words like "Ahad", Sunday etc to describe the seventh day of the week and start using Sabbath Day.
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U don't have worry about that . at this moment many churches , individual have Sabbath worhsipped. U can tell to u hindu community why poking object still practiced by hindus when some hindus do not agreed on poking sharp object in body. So, don? hve to busy body since u do not believed in our faith. U stick to ur sexy pose bra exposing god and mango fighting god
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Sephiroth:
I said I'm not sure Adam was a Jew or not. There was no Jew, Christian, Muslims, Hindus etc when Man first walk on the Planet.
Abraham observed Sabbath because he is JEW. Muhammad or Muslims DO NOT need to observe Sabbath because they are NOT Jews.
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God did not says Sabbath for Jews rather God create Sabbath for all nations. Read again:
God commanded it: "Blessed is the man ... that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it." "Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to the Lord, ... every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant; Even them will I bring to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in my house of prayer ... for mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people." Isaiah 56:2, 6, 7, emphasis added.
In this verses God says all should observed Sabbath include sons of the stranger meaning Jews and other nations of the world.
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Sephiroth:
Answer the Question - Where in above verse did it say ANYTHING about Sabbath?
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The verses telling us to have honest living by working. Get it right.
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Sephiroth:
ONLY one confused here is Christians. They try hard to stick to Jewish Practise when they follow Roman Beliefs of God having kids.
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Not me. There are rotten amoung Chritians who sway from the truth. The Bible still kept untouched.
[ Last edited by Truth.8 at 5-10-2006 01:01 PM ] |
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