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loona,
Is that your way of answering my question. Looks like you have no answer coz you know what I'm talking about and as a Muslim yo have no answers but to brush aside by saying such. One way of escaping the truth. Please face facts instead of living in delusion. |
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Originally posted by barney50 at 12-10-2006 09:37 PM
loona,
Is that your way of answering my question. Looks like you have no answer coz you know what I'm talking about and as a Muslim yo have no answers but to brush aside by saying such. One way of escaping the truth. Please face facts instead of living in delusion
The answer isnt an escapism. It is the matter of understanding the faith first before understand the real issues. If you undertand religion through the mind, you would be swayed by current disturbing issues from time to time...your mind will be pondering through humans' inventions, contemporary living style...last year probably you will love God because of His Mercy on you, today probably you will hate God because He didnt help you in your bankruptcy case...and maybe almost killed yourself. In other words, the destiny of oneself cant be fulfill without faith. It is not living in delusion my fren, it is living with the reality of yesteday, today and tomorowr...it is about living with purpose in this world now and thereafter.
Talking about humanity crisis is already boggling issue to our mind, starting with the creation of Adam until modern day of civilization. And related the issues with religions, will quadraple(my figure of speech only) our mind capacity in doing the thingking of reasoning......and our grasp of the issues maybe wrong or maybe right |
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It is clearly escapism.
The Bible accounts are rock solid in parallel evidence that corroborates.
The Quran account has no basis.
Instead of proving that the Quran came from God, it proves that Quran can simply not be from God. It also proves that Muslims are dishonest. |
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Originally posted by Debmey at 12-10-2006 10:12 PM
It is clearly escapism.
The Bible accounts are rock solid in parallel evidence that corroborates.
The Quran account has no basis.
Instead of proving that the Quran came from God, it proves tha ...
it is only from your point of view, not by other religious scholars. |
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Firstly, it doesn't take a schorlar to know that the Quran account was wrong.
Secondly, no muslim schorlar is able to counter this point. Muslism simply accept by faith that the Quran is true even though it counters reality. |
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Originally posted by loona at 12-10-2006 08:45 PM
I pick answer No.4 - Humans made mistake on several accounts, and Allah corrects it in His last book through His Seal of Prophet
yes, by reasons and human logic, you shouldnt forget to add that bad christians have fabricated the bible... |
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Originally posted by Debmey at 12-10-2006 11:53 PM
Firstly, it doesn't take a schorlar to know that the Quran account was wrong.
Secondly, no muslim schorlar is able to counter this point. Muslism simply accept by faith that the Quran is true ev ...
Still you havent highllight which account of Quran is wrong.
If you are talking about crusifixation of jesus, it has been debunked earlier. and why you comparing the event to the bible? on what account that the bible & roman stories is valid for all parties?or you are trying to be above God, and questioning His Words of truth?Some matters pertaining God works wont be able to achieve through human logic |
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Originally posted by Truth.8 at 12-10-2006 02:55 PM
I would like highlight to Christians here, do not confused with Injil and Isa because both not our believed.
Injil & Isa is arab made trash
We have Bible and Jesus knows as Yesuha . ...
I see you have problem regognize the true god,Allah is a true god worshipped by Jesus (pbuh),Moses(pbuh) and other messengers before prophet Muhammad.Only true god will never die and like i said before even Jesus(pbuh) called the true god Allah. |
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Originally posted by barney50 at 12-10-2006 09:37 PM
loona,
Is that your way of answering my question. Looks like you have no answer coz you know what I'm talking about and as a Muslim yo have no answers but to brush aside by saying such. One way of escaping the truth. Please face facts instead of living in delusion.
Ha the one here living out his delusions as opposed to living in one has got to be Barney himself. C'mon Barney, I've been following your shoving nonsense from day one and I've yet to learn anything worthy from what you ramble or write. In my books, you've yet to make a score . Instead of asking or wanting Moslems here to feel opinionated or weary on any Quranic shortcomings, I'd like you to turn the pointing finger back unto yourself and tell instead of what you make of your Hindu faith. You can crap for what it's worth but at the end of the day your folly and bogeyman still lies in the difficulties of your Hindu faith.
So like your header, please do the needful and please answer. This is appropriate here and I wish all Moslem forumers who are active in here to just lay back and see how Barney struts his stuff on his own faith. If Barney performs well then only do I think that he is eligible to get answers on Islam.
Please answer Barney. Oh yeah Debmey you shouldn't miss out and get right to the nitty-gritty and help out good ole Barney make himself credible and all loud.
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Originally posted by Fuzzman at 13-10-2006 01:28 AM
Ha the one here living out his delusions as opposed to living in one has got to be Barney himself. C'mon Barney, I've been following your shoving nonsense from day one and I've yet to learn anyt ...
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Fuzzman,
Listen, all things said will not change the situation Islam was yesterday and today. It preaches hatred, it sows seed of disbelive in other faith, it makes life difficult for others and Muslim themselves. Trying to belittle my religion would not help your situation no matter how hard you try. As a praticing Hindu I know what my religon says and what a Hindu has to do inorder to live in peace with others along with their belief.
1.Hindu dharma is thought to be over 8500 years old. The beginning of Hinduism can be traced to India in the Indus (Sindhu) valley which had 300 advanced settlements as early as 5000 BCE. Hinduism is one of the three religions thought to have been around from prerecorded times, the other two being Judaism and Zoroastrianism.
2.Hindus believe in treating all living things equally and have high regard for animals, especially the cow. Many Hindus believe that the cow is a living symbol of mother earth. In early agricultural times, the cow, thought to have been the first animal Hindus domesticated, provided a lot for families, including milk, milk products, labor, and dung. Because cows would give all its possessions for the benefit of others, they were thought of as one of the most important parts of the family. Hindu scriptures prohibit cow slaughter for these reasons.
3.Hindus believe the soul is reincarnated and continues in the cycle of rebirth (Samsara) until they reach Moksha (liberation) when the Ultimate Truth is realized and the soul then becomes one with The Supreme God.
4.Hindus believe in one ultimate truth which is inside everyone |
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Originally posted by barney50 at 13-10-2006 10:13 AM
Fuzzman,
Listen, all things said will not change the situation Islam was yesterday and today. It preaches hatred, it sows seed of disbelive in other faith, it makes life difficult for others and ...
Ah Neh ( Mr Plagiarizing expert)
That's not your own words
COPY and PASTE
From Here
____ 1. Hindus believe in more than one god.
____ 2. Hindus worship statues.
____ 3. Hinduism is one of the oldest religions around.
____ 4. Cows are sacred in the Hindu religion.
____ 5. All Indians are Hindu.
____ 6. Hindus do not believe in Heaven and Hell.
____ 7. A strength of Hindu thought and practice is its ability to accept approaches which differ.
____ 8. Hindus love eating meat.
____ 9. Hindus do not worship gods, instead they worship animals like Elephants and Monkeys.
____10. The word Hindi has the same meaning as the word Hindu.
Answers:
1. FALSE |
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truth8 n barney50.. you r nutt!! of course u can`t compare bible with quran!! |
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WILO,
What I believe or others believe is the same. Until and unless Muslims like you wish to say otherwise.
We do not declare war against non Hindus. We do not slit the throat of innocent vicitms and shout GOD is great. We do not say wishing a Muslim Selamat Hari Raya is shirik. You can assume what you want but the truth remains Islam breads terrorism and hatred towards non believers of Islam. Period! |
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Originally posted by barney50 at 13-10-2006 04:41 PM
WILO,
What I believe or others believe is the same. Until and unless Muslims like you wish to say otherwise.
We do not declare war against non Hindus. We do not slit the throat of innocent vi ...
Hinduism breed terrorism in Sri Lanka.. Hindu terrorist kills Sri Lankan civilians... Uncivilised !!! |
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- responded by SilentKiller:Hinduism breed terrorism in Sri Lanka.. Hindu terrorist kills Sri Lankan civilians... Uncivilised !!!
This is the styl of PAS members who would go on repeating what has been proven wrong. That's because they do not have an issue or reply to charges. One way of escaping the real issue at hand. Karr! Kar! Karr! |
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Originally posted by barney50 at 13-10-2006 04:59 PM
responded by SilentKiller:Hinduism breed terrorism in Sri Lanka.. Hindu terrorist kills Sri Lankan civilians... Uncivilised !!!
This is the styl of PAS members who would go on repeating what ha ...
Same thing goes for u.. Repeating the same although its already told u million times terrorism have nothing to do with Islam.. Rotten Parrot is the suitable word for you.. You make stupid generalisation.. |
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Originally posted by SilentKiller at 13-10-2006 05:02 PM
Same thing goes for u.. Repeating the same although its already told u million times terrorism have nothing to do with Islam.. Rotten Parrot is the suitable word for you.. You make stupid gener ...
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for Debmey
Originally posted by Debmey at 12-10-2006 03:12 PM
There is nothing to back up the Quran accounts of what happened whenver it contradicts the Bible.
A good example would be the crucifixion. all three oppposing parties during Jesus' time, Christians, Jews and Romans recorded the crucifixion and death of Jesus. Along came Mo claiming that Jesus was not crucified with no evidence to support his claim and muslms are telling the world it must be true. what bunch of loser!
The Christian writer Faris al-Qayrawani writes:
In the year A.D. 185 a . . . sect of the descendant of the priests of Thebes who embraced Christianity claimed that "God forbids that Christ should be crucified. He was safely lifted up to heaven." Also in the year A.D. 370 a hermetic Gnostic sect that denied the crucifixion of Jesus taught that He "was not crucified but it seemed so to the spectators who crucified Him." Again, in the year A.D. 520 Severus, bishop of Syria, fled to Alexandria where he encountered a group of philosophers teaching that Jesus Christ was not crucified but that it only appeared so to the people who nailed Him on the cross. . . . About A.D. 610 Bishop John, son of the governor of Cyprus, began to proclaim that Christ was not crucified but that it only seemed so to the spectators who crucified Him. (Faris al-Qayrawani, Was Christ Really Crucified?, Villach: Light of Life, 1994, p. 23)
As of the 4th century, however, when the absolute dominion of the Catholic Church was established, Docetists gradually disappeared just like the other movements regarded as "heretical." The teaching that Jesus was crucified confirmed its place as a fundamental dogma of the Christian world by being imposed by the Church.
Mankind only learned the truth about this subject by means of the revelation of the Qur'an to the Prophet Mohammed. In the Qur'an God has revealed this about Jesus:
"......They did not kill him and they did not crucify him, but it was made to seem so to them....." (Qur'an, 4:157) |
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185 AD huh? Hardly contemporaries of Jesus.
These people, if they do exists, face the very same problem as Muslims. How do they explain their cointradiction with Roman, Jewish and Christian records of the 1st century? |
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