speaking ngn anak2

tina^^

Genkidesuka posted on 18-10-2013 09:19 PM
I'm really sorry.  I can see that you are angry.  Ni dah salah faham ni (not to mention out of top ...

no worries, buang yg keruh ambil yg jernih.....

macademia

The governemnt spent 270 million in the duration of  3 years to give English trainings to teachers??? Ni utk train english teachers yg objectivenya utk ajar students kan?

siputsedut

DARSITA posted on 18-10-2013 01:41 PM
Your kid will be okay. Kids are so much smarter than we adults realize. A lot of learni ...

thank you sis...anak sis trilingual kan? macam mana sis handle all the stresses?after further discussion with my husband, we decided to drop korean language and continue with english and BM sebab sekarang ni nampak anak lebih suka repeat BM daripada english..maybe environment dia...dekat rumah babysitter, dekat rumah tok nenek uncles and aunties, play-mate semua guna BM...dia nampak lagi familiar dengan BM..tp kami masih continue guna english in hope she'll pick up soon.... so taknak tambah bahasa ketiga for now sampai anak dah nampak betul2 familiar with both languages..betul2 buat parent stress especially the mom lah...

syasyafina

siputsedut posted on 7-10-2013 03:20 PM
anak siput baru setahun..baru nak belajar bercakap...haritu die nampak burung tiong atas jalan..di ...

sipukkkkk.. anak kite tak byk beza.. tp anak sya tak boleh sebut bird ponnnn lagiiiii.. huwaaaaaaaaaaaaa.. stress boleh?? hihihi.. tp hubby kate, die takde gigi lg, mcm mane nk cakap..

siputsedut

syasyafina posted on 24-10-2013 04:02 PM
sipukkkkk.. anak kite tak byk beza.. tp anak sya tak boleh sebut bird ponnnn lagiiiii.. huwaaaaaaa ...

sya~ jgn stress...perkembangan setiap kanak-kanak lain
siput pun stress jugak haritu..sbb niece siput, sebulan setengah je beza dengan anak siput
mmg laju sangat2 development dia..8 bulan dah boleh jalan..sekarang 1y3m dah boleh makan guna sudu..
anak siput baru start jalan at 1y...masa tengok niece jalan..mmg sedih sangat..kenapa la anak lambat jalan
ada anak kawan tu..at 6 months dah boleh merangkak dan ada gigi
anak siput tumbuh gigi at 9 months..tp skali tumbuh..terus keluar byk2...
merangkak pun lambat
lama2 siput stop comparing
lambat atau cepat...itu anak siput..one day die akan dapat catch up dengan rakan sebaya dia
tp mulut die cepat..mmg hari2 pon potpetpotpet aje kejenye..
time nk tido..mata dah separuh bukak separuh tutup pon potpetpotpet lagi..

selalu2 la sembang dengan anak...lama2 keluar la first word nya tu

siputsedut

syasyafina posted on 24-10-2013 04:02 PM
sipukkkkk.. anak kite tak byk beza.. tp anak sya tak boleh sebut bird ponnnn lagiiiii.. huwaaaaaaa ...

ada baca kat mana tah..kalau anak2 terima makanan pejal mcm nasik instead of bubur lebih awal...seeloknya bagi aje kat anak
sbb bila die mengunyah..die turut excercise jaw die utk bercakap nnt anak siput mmg stop makan bubur lebih awal..11 bulan dah makan nasik with lauk2..mmg die nak..

syasyafina

siputsedut posted on 24-10-2013 04:46 PM
ada baca kat mana tah..kalau anak2 terima makanan pejal mcm nasik instead of bubur lebih awal...se ...

mmg dok suap2 nasi ng lauk2 jugak kat die.. tp kesian jugak sebab takde gigi lagi, takut gusi die sakit mengunyah.. tu yg sya still continue bagi bubur juga..

tssy

Both my kids dah masuk sekolah rendah. When my daughter was small, Most of the time I mmg communicate in English wiz her. Even masa dia baby lagi. Kalau naik tangga, I akan bilang kuat2....one, two, three bila melangkah naik tangga tu. Tapi I tak ajar BM coz I figure, kami duduk kampung, nanti bila dah masuk sekolah, dia akan otomatik belajar BM from her surroundings. My mistake. Coz susah jugak bila balik kpg, tok dia susah nak communicate dgn my daughter.

Anyway,  bila dia dah start sekolah tadika, dia cepat belajar BM dari kawan2. And dia ada advantage, basic English dia very strong. I mmg berpuas hati dgn penguasaan BI my daughter. Yg kelakarnya, bila I sembang dgn my daughter, otomatik kuar BI.

Tapi my son.....lain cerita. I took things for granted. I lupa yg budak pompuan n budak lelaki, penguasaan bahasa mereka berbeza. My son lambat dapat kuasai BI. Dia faham tapi nak communicate a little slow compare dgn kakak dia. Tapi still he is better than the rest of his classmates. Dulu2, sblm hantar my son pergi tadika, I selalu 'bergaduh' dgn my son. Sbb I 'paksa' dia baca buku Peter & Jane tu. Siap nangis2 dia tak nak....huhuhu....tapi dia baca jugak.

Rancangan tv yg ada dwibahasa tu semua I pastikan dioranh tgk in English. I tak benarkan tukar ke BM. Kecuali cerita upin ipin, I galakkan diorang tgk in BM supaya anak2 dpt belajar cara komunikasi in BM

Now my son cakap dkt I...."nasib baik dulu2 mummy paksa adik baca buku Peter & Jane....now adik dah pandai BI". (Yes...he said tht in BM...takde nya dia nak ckp BI kalau ayat panjang2 mcm tu....unlike his sister).

My daughter kalau speaking London....mmg berabuk ler....especially bila bersembang dgn cousin dia...siap dgn accent omputih depa. I n my SIL 'ketawa kecil' jer lah.

So TT...teruskanlah ckp BI dgn anak. Tak rugi apa pun.

Olivecari

Anak saya dari lahir sampai sekarang dah 6 tahun 100% english at home either with me or husband. Kami hantar medium english kindergarten yang pelajar 90% bangsa lain supaya english dia lebih strong. Saya tak peduli apa orang lain kata berlagak, melayu lupa daratan what so ever. Yang penting saya nak dia kuasai english dengan betul bukan cakap campur2.  Suprisingly walaupun tidak ada pendedahan bahasa yang banyak kecuali dengan nenek dan sepupu tetapi dia pick-up bahasa automatic semenjak mengaji. Kami suami isteri bertutur sesama sendiri dalam bahasa so dia selalu dengar dan faham tapi bila menyampuk dalam english. Saya rasa ini sudah cukup, pembacaan bahasa pun alhamdullilah sudah lancar.

Ini kerana pengalaman saya membesar dalam keluarga miskin yang takde basic english langsung membuat saya rasa payah bila tidak tahu english. Dulu di sekolah saya agak bagus belajar always top class tapi english subject selalu dapat cukup2 aje. Bila start cari kerja saya dapat front line jumpa customers, masa tu baru saya rasa rendah diri sangat berbanding dengan bangsa lain, mereka boleh bertutur english dengan bagus, bahasa ibunda mandarin, cantonese pun bagus, kenapa melayu kebanyakan tak begitu. Start dari situ saya belajar bertutur dalam english tapi masih tak yakin bertutur sepenuhnya. Saya cuba sehingga sekarang masih not as good as writing. Penulisan english bagus sahaja tidak cukup, pertuturan keyakinan speaking itu perlu bila anak2 kita besar nanti.

Tak perlu kita risau bahasa malaysia mereka corot or sebagainya, kerana itu bahasa ibunda, bila bersekolah automatic mereka akan ikut kawan2..lagi2 sekolah yang 90% kawan2 melayu lainlah kalau sekolah 90% bangsa lain. Bila mereka kerja, majikan tak tengok berapa bagus result bahasa malaysia, tetapi 1st impression tetap 'english speaking' beri mereka lebih banyak peluang yang cerah.

Kita lihat bangsa lain sesama cina english speaking, mereka tak kata berlagak pun tetapi kalau sesama melayu english speaking, mesti otak kita fikir lain, tak pun mesti toleh. Please lah kita kene buang rasa begini jauh2. Cina dari awal kecil mereka dah start english speaking, bahasa cina di buat no. 2, tapi anak2 mereka tetap boleh bertutur 3 bahasa dengan baik, english, mandarin dan bahasa.

So kawan-kawan. Bila kita ber'speaking' dengan anak, buat ayat yang penuh, tak payah campur2 dengan bahasa melayu..hehehe..

fire_place

aku pun speaking dgn anak,walau xlah bape pandai sgt mcm org lain.
sebolehnya nak dia berabuk speaking,sbb bg aku penting untuk masa depan.
satu lagi mandarin,mandarin aku sampai mtk budak cina kat playground ajar,
bukan nak megah,tp aku sdiri bayangkan..
aku xajar anak speaking english,aku nak hantar tadika yg english medium,
tiba2 kwn lain pandai speaking,anak aku sorg x..
aku dapat rasa moral dia akan down,mls ke sekolah,coz org lain lebih kedepan
yg aku suka bila balik kg,sepupu2 dia sume pun praktis speaking dgn dia.
secara xlangsung,menggalakkan anak buah yg lain berani.

main dgn budak kat taman pun,budak2 tu usaha speaking gak.
bg aku pandang je dr sudut positif.
yg jadi cabaran untuk aku gak,
bila mana org ckp nanti anak aku dgn sepupu dia jumpa ckp mcm itik,
so aku akan buktikan yg diorg mampu komunikasi dgn baik.
mcm akak aku walau suami org luar,dia ajar anak bahasa melayu.
sbb xnak kebolehan berbahasa melayu tu lupus terus dr lidah.

DARSITA

siputsedut posted on 23-10-2013 02:39 AM
thank you sis...anak sis trilingual kan? macam mana sis handle all the stresses?after further disc ...

Yang jadi masalah ibubapa di sini ialah anak enggan bertutur dlm bahasa ibuanda. Ckp korea dibalas English, ckp Jepun dibalas English ckp Spanish dibalas English. Payah sebab bebudak ini celik mata segala gala perkara disekeliling mereka dalam BI.

Teruskan usaha bertutur dlm BI & Korean - dia orang fimiliar dgn bahasa ini percayalah. Bila beli buku jangan beli buku yang cerita meleret leret. Bila buku yang simple, short stories dan gambar gambar menarik. Mcm anak bongsu suka lori sampah so segala buku dia berkisar dgn lori sampah. Hari itu di sekolah sharing day dia tersasul ckp "this is my fav lori sampah" hahahhaha confuse kejap kawan kawan dia.

DARSITA

fire_place posted on 24-10-2013 05:36 AM
aku pun speaking dgn anak,walau xlah bape pandai sgt mcm org lain.
sebolehnya nak dia berabuk speak ...

macam jugak emak ayah yang hantar anak ke sekolah cina - terkujat bebudak yang tak ada basic ni kan. So kalau nak hantar anak ke sekolah cina ke english ka dedahkan mereka dgn cerita cerita katun dlm bahasa ini. Ini memudahkan mereka di tahun pertama.

Olivecari

DARSITA posted on 25-10-2013 02:24 AM
macam jugak emak ayah yang hantar anak ke sekolah cina - terkujat bebudak yang tak ada basic ni  ...

Yes, saya berharap byk lagi parents melayu mengambil langkah seperti parents cina, ajar bertutur dengan anak2 dalam bahasa english di rumah. Peduli kan cakap2 orang dengki kata kita berlagak bla2...Kita kene bina keyakinan mereke bertutur dalam bahasa english dari kecil. Bila ber'speaking' takpayah lah campur2 dengan bahasa melayu...when we speak in english make it full sentence. Senang anak2 nak faham. Jangan bagi mereka confuse. Lebih baik both mak bapa cakap dalam english, galakkan mereka lebih kepada cartoon english, buku english. We have to wake-up, we are not living in Indonese or Thailand where english is not main language. Tapi di Malaysia..english adalah bahasa utama bila mereka bekerja, unless keje kerajaan lah.

Tidak perlu risau bahasa melayu, mereka akan ke sekolah, ramai kawan2 melayu automatic mereka akan pick-up. Ini semua untuk masa depan mereka untuk bersaing dengan bangsa lain. Sekarang ni banyak sgt issue unemployed graduates adalah melayu walaupun result degree sgt bagus tapi keyakinan bila bertutur ke laut. Cina2 bukan pandai2 sgt pun tapi mereka lebih yakin bertutur.  

senduduk

pinksarah posted on 16-10-2013 08:10 PM
clap clap to TT and the rest of mothers here that contributes to many good and brilliant ideas!

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it is challenging to ask him speaking b.i as we live in rural area (i request for transfer because   weve bought a new house, and low cost of living.) His atok and nenek speak bm with a bit of javanese....

he meet his classmates who speak bm, teacher normally use bm as well, i ask him whether your teacher teaches english or not... he says not...(his response disappoints me).....what about good morning? youre welcomed? thank you?.....he says , his teacher never speak bi, but i learn that she is a good teacher who had produced many brilliant n talented kids. that's why i sent him there.

( FYI, i sent him to KEMAS to let him adapt with the society..here there is little choice of kindergarten who use english as main medium/ islamic integrated kindy...and KEMAS located nearby his dad's school.)

when i teach him at home, i use bi...everytime  he n his brothers hang out and makan2 with me in the kitchen while i'm cooking, i converse in english. i try to make english as a language of fun n leisure... he will ask..."mak, cook to apa?  sink tu apa mak? mak ini fish ke?"  each of the english words will keep safe in their memory but it's hard for them to build english sentences.  even sometime in our free time i ask them..ok pelangi in english?...kasut in english.??? ...payung in english?  ...gajah?  kapal terbang in english?.wutever objects they know i will ask them to translate....but still... i dont know how to get them join the words to form sentences.

sumtimes, at night i read them story books....they will become bored as thay dont know the meaning....i have to perform my body language, expression .so they could understand the story...huhuhu

miss_jb

hmm kes sy plak...im very good in  english writting tp ble nk speaking..adoi la gugup semacam...(i mean yg spontan la mcm bebual ngn hb) tp klw presentation dlm meeting...ye bg je kat sy ill converse in English like a boss.msalahnye ble nk berbual biasa2 tu..pelik kan?
suami sy lak,english dia not that great but oh my die confident gle speaking ngalahkan sy wlaupun kdg2 ayt xsesuai sket...
so in my case, ape yg korg cdgkan utk anak kami nt?sy yg patut ajar anak2 speaking or my husband?sy xrse sy ade keyakinan utk berbual dgn anak2 in english but i know my husband bleh sepaking dgn konfidennye dgn anak2 tnpa gugup or terkial2

pinksarah

miss_jb posted on 8-11-2013 09:18 AM
hmm kes sy plak...im very good in  english writting tp ble nk speaking..adoi la gugup semacam...(i m ...

never scared to make mistakes..take a serious note on that..

i bg contoh,my daughter mcm you,takut nak speak up sebab takut salah,takut tak betul,nanti kena ejek...

ended up dia kurang mahir speaking in english language..

when we moved oversea,within a month dia dah pot pet pot pet in english and her pronunciation is way better than she used to be..

i did asked her what gained her confidence,she simply said everyone in class helped her,and no one..not even a teacher told her she did wrong..selalu praised her,always ler her expressed her feelings in writing or verbally without pointing whats right or wrong..as long as she speaks confidently..the crowd in class also played a role,instead of pointing her mistakes,they helped her with proper pronunciation..

that is what happened to your husband,dia punya style sama mcm british dkt sini..dorang ni bukan pandai mengeja,bukan pandai writing..but they spoke confidently in english..tp,sbb english is their first language,they tends to take it for granted..hence,the spelling error and grammar..

yg perlu you buat,pupuk self confident dlm diri anak..jgn takut anak buat salah..dari mistakes,you belajar actually..org kita,klu salah straight ckp salah and disuruh betulkan di situ jugak..di sini,cikgu2 biarkan anak2 explore semua,menulis essay with spelling error mmg x de hal..dari situ lah budak2 ni belajar,creative..they also have spelling book which to improve in spelling words..in a long run,benda2 ni akan improve..jgn risau..

i tau sebab anak i dh darjah 3 pun masih susah nak tulis essay,pindah sini usahkan essay,siap ada diary utk menulis apa terjadi setiap hari..besides speeling error,i am impressed dgn creativity dia menulis..

pinksarah

senduduk posted on 30-10-2013 05:46 PM
it is challenging to ask him speaking b.i as we live in rural area (i request for transfer becau ...

if that's the case,dont give up exposing him to english lesson kind of environment..

since he got a well exposure in bahasa,back in the house,provide him with good english lesson..

it doesnt matter where you sent him either KEMAS school or PERMATA school as long as he gets to socialise around,interact with others,gain his confidence level..

always encourage him to speak,it doesnt matter that he dont understand the whole story book when you read them,as long as you did that and he listened to it..

t is good that you familiarized him with words,sentences..soon,you will surprise to see he actually understand every word of it..dont easily give up,ok..

good job,dear!

clap clap..

miss_jb

pinksarah posted on 8-11-2013 06:01 PM
never scared to make mistakes..take a serious note on that..

i bg contoh,my daughter mcm you,ta ...

okay thanks ..will keep that in mind..

honda_jazz

keraskhejong posted on 5-10-2013 07:22 AM
teringat anak aku masa umur 2thun lebih....
hanya ikan yg dia sebut fish...
kalau menatang lain se ...

sama gan anak saya,tgk gambar binatang..kenal lah jugak snake,bird,fish,cockroach,cat...tp bila nampak anjing..still ckp cat..xpun miauuu...
alahai..klu nampak kambing,anak akan ckp baby lembu!!.. lagi parah...!!

mahayu

me pon pnh gak ajak anak communicate in english tapi dia bolayan jer tak minat speaking katanya...smbil buat aksi tutup telinga...wpun english dia agak baik n pnh belajar di Smart reader...