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[Tempatan]
Debaran siapa yang masuk dalam kumpulan T15
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yg meroyan acah2 T15 dlm ni sbnarnya bifoti ngan m40 jew..
yg betul2 t15 mcm greentea tu lagi suka kalo gomen tarik sabsidi..org lain yg kena potong sabsidi korang lak yg panas
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Maha kaya tu golongan yang beli tak tengok harga pun.. malah kalau ko tanya harga minyak depa pun tak tau.. dia akan cakap I isi je & charge CC.. hujung bulan PA/akauntan settlekan CC.
kalau yang tengok harga & melenting harga naik tu belum lagi level maha kaya.. walaupun gaji 5 figure.. |
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foremer Cari.com
pasti T15
justification= ada masa komen sana komen sini ( tak kerja tapi kaya raya)
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ada sorang mamat reddit ni mmg keja dia compile data , dia buat coding sendiri utk capture all these data each time minnstry release the numbers
nak kata 100% accurate pun tak boleh juga nak kata tak accurate pun also tak boleh juga
dia ada bagi link to code and open source dia, meols tak gheti bukak
tp banyak gila data dia compile uiii.. spm 2023 pun adooo klau pi main chart dia
https://github.com/Thevesh/charts/tree/main/2024-10-22_tax
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Sejak bila ada kategori T15 ni? X bleh pki la kerajaan skrg ni. Kasi tukar. |
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Kitty_catz replied at 24-10-2024 01:12 PM
ada sorang mamat reddit ni mmg keja dia compile data , dia buat coding sendiri utk capture all the ...
Ooo..tq..tq...
Lhdn takmo reveal ka charts segala chart...kang ada yg bernanah plak kan... |
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gst untuk semua
barulah adil
tak payah susah buat kategori abcd t m |
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brp gaji T15?
mcm ank owner wetstar tu t brp..saja tnya sbb mgu lps jmpa dorg..helok naa anknya dia  |
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Kitty_catz replied at 24-10-2024 08:50 AM
ye btui
sama mcm bebenang prof abey aritu yg ckp T15 household income rm13K tu mmg dah tanya dia.. ...
Kalay T15 gaji 13k, anak2 still kena masuk skolah gomen.. mana mampu hantaq skolah prebet?
Takkan tokey2 produk timbang kilo bawak mustang, jjcm naik 1st class gaji ciput jahh..
Kalau deme evade taxes, mcm ni baik hapuskan jahh subsidi.. sumer tak dpt.. sennag citer.. |
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sis ni data korek betui dah so kita leave it at that je dulu.. now kita nak tengok apa gomen nak buat to close the income disparity ni.. sbb ramai tak pueh ati awat T15 kena lump sekali dgn T5 ke atas.. camtu kan?
takpe kita tengok mechanism nya cemaner.. sbb once e-invoicing start , takdak sapa tak boleh nak lari tak declare income/revenue even acik sik lemak tepi jalan.. then mana2 peniaga takdak TIN # (tax identification no ) tak boleh nak supply barang dah ke mana2 company so mmg semua peniaga tak kira kecik beso kena ada TIN # ni.. and it work both ways sis.. set2 peniaga and set2 pembeli. so kalau big2 purchase ni kalo beli guna duit cuci2 cash tu payah sikit la lepas ni.. esp set2 tokeh timbang kilo tu haaa contoh acik fatek berlendir cam kak km tu.. barang tak laku tapi kaya namateyyy so adakah sheols mmg berdhuet atau contect semata2.. kalo berhuet sepadan ke dgn yg sheols declare kat lhdn tu, aaa camtu la contohnya.. so as a consumer pun kena jaga2 la make sure spending tu selari la dgn income yg di declare sbb record sebagai pembeli pun ada, sbb kedai capture TIN # or IC number dah lepas ni.. semua akan upload kat LHDN punya portal
Next pasal dividend >rm100K kena 2%,. hopefuly set2 bosses and/or shareholders seantero mesia esp sme akan declare higher salary + other emolument yg di capture dlm BE form depa instead of low emolument + high dividend, sbb dividend ni tak capture dlm borang BE/personal income tax depa sbb mesia ni amalkan single tier tax system.. so dividend ni company yg tanggung tax tu ,tu sebab dlm borang tokeh2 takde letak dividend ni sbb dah dibayar by the company.. walaupun this is considered double taxation and tak adil.. tp rasanya itu je cara nak dapatkan the real picture income distribution ni.. meols nak jugak tunggu cemaner ke cara nak declare dividend ni kat dlm Borang BE come 2025 punya filing, meols ada tanya auditor meols, dia pun masih samar2 ini bukan about tax avoidance yach mmg mechanism mcm gini sejak dulu.. kalo tak, lama dah kena perambat dgn set2 lembaga , tapayah tunggu pmx petik tp this one impact might not be that significant la sbb tengok jugak personal income bracket kat mana vs company punya corporate tax rate.. ni nak discuss rasa kalau tak biasa pasal taxation on personal and business level takut pening kepala
and kalo lah semer dideclare dan dicapture dlm personal income tax , meols yakin T15 ni bukan kat RM13/mo tu... maka harapnya akan ada correction la jugak nanti ke dlm income distribution tu..lagi satu flaw yg meols nampak is the classification of household income sbb dia kira income seisi rumah.. kalo dlm rumah tu mak pak masih kerja ie mak + pak + 3 anak, gaji rm3k/pax = rm15k/mo dah masuk T15 ,apa pun tak dapat? so kena pindah la korang
tp kalo kita refer to pareto principle mcm betul dah la.. usually the 20% yg tanggung the 80%.. mathematically tolak tambah bahagi darab pun result mcm gitu.. but the question is : how skewed is the data? mana result padu? kata guna AI dah bagai dah
kalo masuk sini and key in lain pulak result dia.. pening banyak sangat
https://data.gov.my/dashboard/income-taxation
kita tunggu je la raja formula buat magic.. trust the proses kekdahnya... until ada clearer picha meols mampu komen takat tu saja..
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Edited by mrsLucky at 24-10-2024 10:06 PM
tolong...i x golongan B40 M40 apalagi T20
I n husband tak kerja...tak dapat rahmah..tak bayar cukai pendapatan..
Harap dividen Fixed Deposit, KWSP dan ASB saja untuk meneruskan hidup..Bitcoin pon adalah sikit2
Nak tanya kalau sesiapa yang tahu...LHDN tahu tak kita ada berapa property dan saving? |
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mrsLucky replied at 24-10-2024 08:04 PM
tolong...i x golongan B40 M40 apalagi T20
I n husband tak kerja...tak dapat rahmah..tak bayar cukai ...
Duk dendiammmmmmm je lahhhh takyah stamping baru apa2... diam diammmm diammm aje kutip dividen camtu....
Ada i kenal beberapa.. passive income tahap 30-50k sebulan... lek lek chill chill je pencen dah dekat 10 tahun makan passive income tp menten classification B40 dlm lhdn |
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Edited by green~tea at 24-10-2024 10:20 PM
tripleid replied at 24-10-2024 09:49 AM
yg meroyan acah2 T15 dlm ni sbnarnya bifoti ngan m40 jew..
Enough "bongak"ing... alah tarik subsidi tu ciput aje... berbanding dgn benefit yang rakyat buleh dpt balik.. more efficient "subsidy" handout to the RIGHT TARGETED PEOPLE
ini kasi sekali harung yg dpt rompak nya puak2 negara jiran... bodo sangat
At least aku bayar tax pun, bukan bangsat ROHINGYUCK duk songlap i.e. minyak masak paket |
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green~tea replied at 24-10-2024 10:03 PM
Enough "bongak"ing... alah tarik subsidi tu ciput aje... berbanding dgn benefit yang rakyat buleh ...
Kan siss.susah nau bifoti nak paham...duit sabsidi tu kjaan boleh guna buat mcm2 pembangunan.. kita yg gigih byr tax bulan2 apa ke bodo sgt senang2 bagi sabsidi kat wargasing??...Msia ni kalo dari dulu rakyat x dimanjakan sgt dgn sabsidi ntah2 skrg dah lagi maju dari Singapo. |
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Kitty_catz replied at 24-10-2024 05:10 PM
sis ni data korek betui dah so kita leave it at that je dulu.. now kita nak tengok apa gomen nak b ...
Ntah2 iols yg moyan tahun depan.. hahahahah |
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mrsLucky replied at 24-10-2024 08:04 PM
tolong...i x golongan B40 M40 apalagi T20
I n husband tak kerja...tak dapat rahmah..tak bayar cukai ...
Bank tau baper byk reta dan savings la.. |
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Mebbe iols kena cari sugadedi la kalau mcm ni.. tapi ada ka yg nak sugabebi umo 40an? |
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