bukan bangkem kata ayat tu tak cerita pasal bigbang dik.. tapi para ulama tafsir yang kata dik..
dengar la hujah ustaz azhar idrus tu dik..
jangan salahkan bangkem dik.. sebab tu la bangkem tanya awal2 tadi, itu tafsiran syok sendiri adik je, padahal ulama tafsir tak mengiyakan teori bigbang..
jangan kecewa ye dik.. teori bigbang di mata ulama adalah sesat
maka kalau adik percaya teori bigbang itu benar, maka adik pon sesat
Ko dah salah paham ko nak salahkan org lain buat apa? Skg sapa yg dah kantoi? Ha ha
Kalo ko tak setuju dgn Quran pasal Big Bang .... what is your counter argument? You have nothing .... tak guna ko nak berhujah .... tak ada bukti & rujukkan
kalau adik percaya teori bigbang abiogenesis teori evolusi bagai tu, bagus la..
kalau nak kaitkan dengan ayat AQ, tolong tanya kat ustaz2 dan guru yang mursyid dulu ye dik..
bangkem dah tanya pasal benda2 ni 15 tahun yang lepas dik.. tahu apa kata ustaz2?
dorang kata teori2 tu sesat dik.. bangkem dan rakan2 mati matian pertahankan pasal evolusi dalam surah al baqarah, tapi ustaz2 kata semua tu seesat..
pasal abiogenesis juga bangkem dah debat dengan ustaz2 dan pakar agama dik.. tapi dorang kata semua tu karut dik..
adik jangan buktikan kat bangkem yang teori2 tu ada dalam AQ, tapi buktikan pada ustaz2 ulama2 yang jumud ni dulu.. i was like you when i was a boy.. if you were right, i'd be happy for the younger me
sebenarnya bangkem suka kalau adik2 yang muda camni suka ilmu sains
jangan jadi jumud dan kolot macam lobai2 lain yang tolak sains mentah2..
sikit2 kata sains itu teori sesat, ilmu setan, dakyah yahudi
bangkem tau adik semangat nak buktikan Al Quran itu kitab yang benar dan mendahului zaman, tapi ustaz2 dan ulama2 lain tak berkongsi pendapat yang sama dengan adik.. percayalah..
kalau adik tak percaya kata2 bangkem, adik tengok la video usta jehar derus tu.. nampak tak camne dia punya hujah pasal teori bigbang?
bangkem cuba cari tentang perbincangan teori evolusi dalam AQ, bigbang dalam AQ, tapi tak jumpa sebab mod banyak delete bangkem punya thread dan komen..
bukan adik sorang je yang kaitkan AQ dengan sains.. bangkem dari dulu lagi.. tapi tu la, akhirnya bangkem kecewa sebab golongan ulama tak terima tafsiran sebegitu.. mereka nak tafsiran mereka je betul.. kalau kita tak ikut tafsiran mereka, maka KITA ADALAH SESAT
LOL , ko nak buktikan yg Islam salah dgn 2 video kononnya matahari orbits around the earth? Video tersebut adalah dari MEMRI dan ia adalah translation. Nampaknya ko dah kena temberang (aka kena kencing) dgn geng zionist. MEMRI TV adalah satu dari alat propaganda Israel. Ia diasaskan oleh Col Yigal Cardom dari Isreali Intelligence (aka mossad). Ko percaya bulat2 lah ye?
The Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI) explores the Middle East through the region’s media. MEMRI bridges the language gap which exists between the West and the Middle East, providing timely translations of Arabic, Persian, and Turkish media, as well as original analysis of political, ideological, intellectual, social, cultural, and religious trends in the Middle East. Founded in February 1998 to inform the debate over U.S. policy in the Middle East, MEMRI is an independent, nonpartisan, nonprofit, 501 (c)3 organization.
The truth about MEMRI
MEMRI is a main arm of Israeli propaganda. Although widely used in the mainstream media as a source of information on the Arab world, it is as trustworthy as Julius Streicher’s Der Sturmer was on the Jewish world.
The evidence
MEMRI recently posted what it alleged was an interview I did with Lebanese television on the Nazi holocaust. The MEMRI posting was designed to prove that I was a Holocaust denier. Below I juxtapose the MEMRI version of my interview (both the actual broadcast version as well as the transcript it prepared) against what I actually said in the interview.
Evidence from Memri's website also casts doubt on its non-partisan status. Besides supporting liberal democracy, civil society, and the free market, the institute also emphasises "the continuing relevance of Zionism to the Jewish people and to the state of Israel".
That is what its website used to say, but the words about Zionism have now been deleted. The original page, however, can still be found in internet archives.
The reason for Memri's air of secrecy becomes clearer when we look at the people behind it. The co-founder and president of Memri, and the registered owner of its website, is an Israeli called Yigal Carmon.
Mr - or rather, Colonel - Carmon spent 22 years in Israeli military intelligence and later served as counter-terrorism adviser to two Israeli prime ministers, Yitzhak Shamir and Yitzhak Rabin.
Retrieving another now-deleted page from the archives of Memri's website also throws up a list of its staff. Of the six people named, three - including Col Carmon - are described as having worked for Israeli intelligence.
Bukan aku yg cakap. Its from 2 reputable sources - Prof Fikelstein & The Guardian. Ha ha , ko dah kena kencing & pasal tu ko kononnya jadi atheis? Jadi pada aku ko ni bangang lah pasal dah kena kencing dgn geng zionist.
Tak ada dlm Quran yg kata sun revolves ariound the earth. Quran nyatakan yg Earth & Sun have their own orbits - which is scientifically correct.
Aku tak perlu nak yakinkan ko. Its very clear ko tak buat research ko sendiri & ko bangga dgn kejahilan ko tu. Lagi pon sampai sekarang ko takut & tak mampu jawab apa2 soalan yg aku tanya. Ini bukti yg ko tak tau apa yg ko cakap.
Ko nak acah aku? Tak usah lah. Ini bukan board CI yg ko boleh buat lawak bodoh antara sama sendiri dan ketawa lepas tu sorak yg ko menang. Kat sini ko kena bagi bukti & rujukkan untuk setiap hujah ko.
For the 4th time
Origin of life ....
a) 'Started from the Big Bang'
b) 'Big Bang caused life'
are 2 very different statements.
Pemahaman ko : (a) atau (b)
For the 3rd time
Jawab lah apa pemahaman ko tu :
heavens and the Earth were meshed together then We ripped them apart
LOL , bila Quran kata man to dari tanah liat , paham2 lah cerita pasal kejadian Nabi Adam(as)
Skg macamana?
For the 3rd time
Pasal dlm Quran dah kata 'manusia dijadikan dari tanah'
Dah bagi dah peer reviewed publications of pasal Montmorillonite Clay
Dari awal ko ugut nak cakap ttg tulang sulbi atau sulb kononnya nak expose kecacatan dlm Quran. We up the ante , kita tambah lagi dgn tara'ib - Sulb & Tara'ib. Ok then , make good on your threat. Tetiba ko dah kecut perut ..... awat main acah2 aje.
Ha ha , kat sini org tak makan ugutan bangang ko tu. Kalo ko nak hujah ttg Sulb & Tara'ib .... silakan ..... takut ke?
LOL , ko hanya berdasarkan translation dari MEMRI which we know has a problem
Yg ko sibuk pasal translation (bukan tafsiran ye) yg kononnya ulamak kata sun revolves around the earth pasal apa? Allah dah bagi kita kebolehan berfikir. Islam bukan ugama yg berasaskan ulamak. Banyak lagi ulamak yg peka sains tak kata demikian.
The problem is you. You are seeing problems where there aren't any pasal ko benci Islam.
Ha ha , soalan yg senang aku tanya pon ko dah mengagau nak jawab. To sah nak pusing2 tambi. People here would think that there is something wrong with you , which I think there is. You are not as good as what you think.
Aku masih tunggu ko make good dgn ugutan ko tu , kononnya nak expose kecacatan Quran dgn tulang sulbi. I am calling your bluff & raising the stakes to 'Sulb & Tara'ib'? Macamana skg .... berani tak ko dgn cabaran aku.
Post time 13-8-2016 10:31 PMFrom the mobile phone|Show all posts
sam1528 replied at 13-8-2016 10:18 PM
LOL , ko hanya berdasarkan translation dari MEMRI which we know has a problem
Yg ko sibuk pasal ...
Susah cakap dengan budak2.. jadi ko nak kata translation tu salah le dan sengaja diputar belit?
Jangan syok sendiri dik.. takpe dik.. macam bangkem kata, adik tak perlu buktikan apa2 kat bangkem.. buktikan dulu dekat agamawan adik sendiri ye.. pendapat adik hanya pendapat picisan je.. pendapat mufti dan ulama besar umpama pendapat official dalam agama islam..
Kalau pendapat ulama besar tu bodo, maka bodo la agama korang tu.. sian adik, syok sendiri rupanye..
Post time 13-8-2016 07:16 PM
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