[MERGED]-Debmey: SHOW PROOF THAT PROPHET MOHAMMAD IS A PAEDOPHILE?

Debmey

Personal view? Nope, Al Bukhari recorded it.

Is Bukhari valid? Are you a Muslim? You denying authenticity of al Bukhari?

Looks like you are stuck Fuzzy. You can't deny what Al Bukhari wrote w/o denying your faith. so you end up double contradicting yourself.

sonny~~

Originally posted by sonny~~ at 20-9-2005 10:55 PM
dont c no bukhari or rabbi or bishop who wanna say child marriage is paedophillia  

peace

Bukhari vol. 7, #88:
            "Narrated Urwa:  "The prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death).""

Our Rabbis taught: It is related of Justinia17  the daughter of 'Aseverus son of Antonius that she once appeared before Rabbi 'Master', she said to him, 'at what age may a woman marry?'. 'At the age of three years and one day', he told her.

Babylonian Talmud: Tractate Niddah

Currently accepted values are also overtly contrasted to past United States legislation, which was not altered until 1889. The age of consent in most states was as young as ten, with Delaware stipulating a mere age seven. Some laws still in force today show an unusual attempt to control sex lives, with Washington DC prohibiting sex in any position other than missionary

History of Sex and Love

not a squeak from satanic st paul's 3 headed trinity god believers  

peace

Fuzzman

Originally posted by sonny~~ at 21-9-2005 05:02 PM
not a squeak from satanic st paul's 3 headed trinity god believers  
peace

Well Sonny~~, it is their practice to stay silent when hard facts like the ones provided by you are shown.

ARI FUZZMAN

Fuzzman

Originally posted by Debmey at 21-9-2005 02:52 PM
Personal view? Nope, Al Bukhari recorded it.Is Bukhari valid? Are you a Muslim? You denying authenticity of al Bukhari? Looks like you are stuck Fuzzy.

I'm awed in knowing that even people who do not  truly understand English like your goodself can carry on debating while indirectly making humor of your lingual fallacies. Personal views of whom? Let me requote what you wrote. Read the sentence in red.

Originally posted by Debmey at 21-9-2005 08:39 AM
We just have to agree that Mo had sex with Aisha when she was 9 years old.You can call it anything byu want, i call it paedophilia.

Naturally yours my friend. Tis so clear for you to read. No wonder you have trouble understanding soora 2:23! LOL.

Originally posted by Debmey at 21-9-2005 02:52 PM: You can't deny what Al Bukhari wrote w/o denying your faith. so you end up double contradicting yourself.  

Ill let this fly too as this is the "ripple" that followed your "mis-understanding" of where personal views went? LOL.

So let us steer back on course with the trinitarian main concerns here and they are and remain:-
1. How much of Bukhari is valid to you?
2. Is Bukhari valid to narrative accounts with regards to Aishah?
3. From whence come the source of Aishah's age narrative from Hisham and Urwa?


ARI FUZZMAN

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Debmey

Al Bukhari states it very clearly to all.

Mo had sex with a 9 year old Aisha. Is there any reason to doubt Al Bukhari?


From Bukhari vol. 7, #65:
            "Narrated Aisha that the prophet wrote the marriage contract with her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old.  Hisham said:  "I have been informed that Aisha remained with the prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death).""


Bukhari vol. 7, #88:
            "Narrated Urwa:  "The prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death).""

sonny~~

u're spammin impotent dude
try respondin intelligently to FUZZ's questions.  am, we're all ears  

peace

Debmey

I am responding truthfully and intelligenetly to Fuzzy.

You Muslims simply cannot deny the fact that Mohamad had sex with Aisha when she was only at a tender age of 9 years old.
This was recorded by mulytiple sources in the Hadiths which you Muslims claim is authentic.

Fuzzman

Originally posted by Debmey at 22-9-2005 12:20 PM
I am responding truthfully and intelligenetly to Fuzzy.You Muslims simply cannot deny the fact that Mohamad had sex with Aisha when she was only at a tender age of 9 years old.
This was record ...

Sonny~~ is deafeningly correct to say that you're spamming because that's just what you're doing. For every question I put forth to you, you return with the same "verse spam". C'mon dude, can't you think out of the box?

You've succeeded in performing almost everything except facing off the bottom  three that you are avoiding like the Black Plague. So let us steer back on course with the trinitarian main concerns here and they are and remain:-
1. How much of Bukhari is valid to you?
2. Is Bukhari valid to narrative accounts with regards to Aishah?
3. From whence come the source of Aishah's age narrative from Hisham and Urwa?

C'mon ace, I know you can do it. Just give me answers that will make this thread move forward.

ARI FUZZMAN

Debmey

You mean al Bukhari is invalid? Is that what you are saying Fuzzy the muslim?

Originally posted by Debmey at 22-9-2005 10:43 PM
You mean al Bukhari is invalid? Is that what you are saying Fuzzy the muslim?

And you are saying that al Bukahri is valid? Is that what you are saying, Debbo the Christian?

Debmey

yes sir, the narratives do reflect Mo. He did have sex with a 9 year old Aisha.

You believe in Hadith huh?

Debmey

There is no reason not to believe in the account of Aisha's child sex episode.

Fuzzman

Originally posted by Debmey at 22-9-2005 10:43 PM
You mean al Bukhari is invalid? Is that what you are saying Fuzzy the muslim?

You seem to be having problems in giving me simple answers. Bukhari is Iranian. Hisham and his father are Iraqis. An event as important as the marriage of Aishah or her age for the given matter should have at least  two or three narrators to authenticate the unfolding events in the life of Aishah. Therefore can you logically tell me as to why is that there is not a single tradition that comes with an all-Medinan chain of narrators, where Ayesha spent most of her life?

ARI FUZZMAN

Debmey

Muslims take Al Bukhari's hadiths to be authentic. So what nonsence are you talking about?
Do you have proofs that Al Bukhari was wrong on this one? If indeed the account of Aisha's marriage at 9 was wrong, why was it never corrected by muslim schorlars aftef more than millenia?

Fuzzman

Originally posted by Debmey at 27-9-2005 09:11 PM
Muslims take Al Bukhari's hadiths to be authentic. So what nonsence are you talking about?
Do you have proofs that Al Bukhari was wrong on this one? If indeed the account of Aisha's marriage at 9  ...

Ahahaha you cannot answer me eh? Shaking your foundations already have I? You shouldn't question Bukhari's narratives as after all  he records generally accepted traditions. As we may know like the Bible some accounts are far from perfect although they may pass acceptences testings.

Since you are the one that is so adamant in saying my prophet was a paedo, it is only natural that I ask you for direct proof no matter whom. We all know that Bukhari also says that  the prophet had the mariage contract with Aishah. We all know that the prophet had the permission and blessings of Aisha's parents. We all also know that Ansari women were present at the handover. We all know that there was no imflammatory or harsh remarks made by accounts in the narratives over the marriage of Aishah to my prophet. So with all these in mind, you should be more diligent in making positive and fruitful responses, rather than putting to scrutiny what I write you. Makes you look bankrupt.

So tell me as to why is that there is not a single tradition that comes with an all-Medinan chain of narrators, where Ayesha spent most of her life?  Why only chain narrators from Iran and Iraq only?

ARI FUZZMAN

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Fuzzman

So finally Debmey agrees, wearily albeit, that my prophet ain't a paedo after all? I'm sure Debmey's still  shopping around for a suitable cut and paste..but.. is seemingly unable to locate a compatible one to put support to his impossible task of making the paedo tag stick to my prophet. Keep on trying Debmey. Just hope that Truthy's prayers are enough to buffer your already diminishing debate prowress. Adios Amigos Lost Diablos.

ARI FUZZMAN

Fuzzman

Ahahaha Debmey, why dontcha cry me a river. Does this mean that you have finally conceded defeat?

ARI FUZZMAN

Debmey

Muhamad had sex with a 9 year old Aisha. This well reocrded by multiple sources in the hadiths.

Can any Muslim deny that?

Originally posted by Fuzzman at 1-10-2005 09:00 AM
Ahahaha Debmey, why dontcha cry me a river. Does this mean that you have finally conceded defeat?

ARI  ...

Well done, Fuzz...he'll be crying an ocean - for insulting and slandering the seal of God's holy prophets

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