Rakan karibku seorang Kristian

truly

trying to engage in a decent, meaningful, intelligent discussion with him katak? hehe, good luck to you. pigs can fly?

anti_aktivis

Originally posted by FaithNoMore at 10-1-2007 12:10 PM
Ka ka ka...ni patut buat poll RAJA BELIT plak.

dah raja belit , ko ni bila aku tanya sebab aku tak faham ko belit , awat ko ni raja belit ke?

petola

Originally posted by anti_aktivis at 10-1-2007 12:07 PM



errr saya tak faham , which part yang you kata fitnah?



atau


Ki ki BTW camana aku nak percaya yang tulisan ko ni ko kata sundiri? Ki ki ki

saya tak kata ko fitnah sapa2 in specific...

cuma masalahnya camna kami nak verify yg cerita ko ni memang betul2 punya cerita... bukan tipu2 punya...

so kalau ada yg pilih taknak percaya camna... adakah mereka salah?  :bgrin:

oh ya... yg ko mula2 kata perhaps dia dah tahu tapi kemudian ko sebut alhamdulillah tu camna ko nak reconcile...
ada unsur assss...assss.. assumption tak on your part kat situ?

Anak_Nogori

Originally posted by FaithNoMore at 10-1-2007 12:10 PM
Ka ka ka...ni patut buat poll RAJA BELIT plak.

Errrr..sesuai sangat tu.

Now u khow i'am who aaaaaaa faith.

anti_aktivis

or ini yang mereka kata fitnah?

Hmmmmmmmmm

antara contoh verse bible yang aku beri kat member aku

Nehemiah 7:22 (King James Version)

22 The children of Hashum, three hundred twenty and eight

Ezra 2:19

19 The children of Hashum, two hundred Twenty-three.

verse contradict each other

truly

kenapa tergagap gagap asss assss tu petola? :hmm:

anti_aktivis

Originally posted by petola at 10-1-2007 12:12 PM


saya tak kata ko fitnah sapa2 in specific...

cuma masalahnya camna kami nak verify yg cerita ko ni memang betul2 punya cerita... bukan tipu2 punya...

so kalau ada yg pilih taknak per ...

err adakah anda buat assumption saya berfikir kalau sapa tak nak percaya dikira salah? Errrrrrr tang mana saya mewajibkan. Ki ki indah sungguh permainan bahasa anda. respect saya.

so kalau ada yg pilih taknak percaya camna... adakah mereka salah?  :bgrin:

Dan salah ke diakhirkan satu tulisan dgn alhamdulillah? Hmmm anda tak faham maksud alhamdulillah ke?

oh ya... yg ko mula2 kata perhaps dia dah tahu tapi kemudian ko sebut alhamdulillah tu camna ko nak reconcile...
ada unsur assss...assss.. assumption tak on your part kat situ?

petola

Originally posted by truly at 10-1-2007 12:20 PM
kenapa tergagap gagap asss assss tu petola? :hmm:

harap2 dia tak guna alasan sintaksis macam pengikut abuya nak halalkan syahadah mereka... :bgrin:

anti_aktivis

Originally posted by petola at 10-1-2007 12:28 PM


harap2 dia tak guna alasan sintaksis macam pengikut abuya nak halalkan syahadah mereka... :bgrin:

jangan risau aku berusaha utk takkan menggunakan fakta yang tak tepat dalam hujah aku (ala cam ada satu mamat tu duk bantai kata pagan bukan satu agama , walhal fact menunjukan sebaliknya)

petola

Originally posted by anti_aktivis at 10-1-2007 12:31 PM



jangan risau aku berusaha utk takkan menggunakan fakta yang tak tepat dalam hujah aku (ala cam ada satu mamat tu duk bantai kata pagan bukan satu agama , walhal fact menunjukan sebaliknya)

maaflah... aku tak percaya cerita ko ni...

tak salah kan?  hehehe

Originally posted by anti_aktivis at 10-1-2007 12:13 PM
or ini yang mereka kata fitnah?

Hmmmmmmmmm

antara contoh verse bible yang aku beri kat member aku

Nehemiah 7:22 (King James Version)


Ezra 2:19


verse contradict each other

Anda kecoh pasal bible contradict each other.

Kepercayaan yg anda dan tok2 lebai anggap bener yg sebenarnya contradict quran anda tak mahu kecohkah??:pmuka:

So, ever wonder why your good Christian friend decided not to talk about religion with you ever again....:pmuka: :pmuka: BTW, ever heard of "pots calling the kettle black"....

[ Last edited by  katak_gemok at 10-1-2007 12:39 PM ]

anti_aktivis

Originally posted by katak_gemok at 10-1-2007 12:37 PM


Anda kecoh pasal bible contradict each other.

Kepercayaan yg anda dan tok2 lebai anggap bener yg sebenarnya contradict quran anda tak mahu kecohkah??:pmuka:

So, ever wonder why your g ...

apa yang contradict tu?

tak faham aku?

anti_aktivis

dah edit plak , tersilap le tu pasal stoning. Ki ki Nasihat , berhati hati , kita berbincang dgn rasional bukan emotional

honeybee1802

kat sini biler ada perkataan kristian hangat..kat belah sana sebut je islam hangat gak...biarkan kami dengan agama kami dan biarkan mereka dgn agama mereka...
haku pun penah kine gak mcm AA...dunno la dia raise sbb nak tahu or sesaje jek nak berdebat..
but what happen in CI aku rs menggembirakan si truly n si katak gemok,looking at puak2 kopiah n songkok dok gaduh..

Originally posted by anti_aktivis at 10-1-2007 12:41 PM


apa yang contradict tu?

tak faham aku?

Begini, kalu anda tanya Pope Benedict pasal sumber hukum bunuh utk murtad dalam ajaran Kristian, dia akan cakap itu adalah spt yg disampaikan dalam OT melalui ayat Leviticus 24:16, Deuteronomy 13:5/13:6-10.

Soalanya sekarang kalu saya tanya anda mana ayat dalam quran yg tuhan anda turun ke Muhd yg ada kata hukum bunuh utk murtad dalam Islam???

Faham tak dekat mana yg contradictnya amalan anda dan quran ini sekarang???:hmm:

anti_aktivis

Originally posted by honeybee1802 at 10-1-2007 12:48 PM
kat sini biler ada perkataan kristian hangat..kat belah sana sebut je islam hangat gak...biarkan kami dengan agama kami dan biarkan mereka dgn agama mereka...
haku pun penah kine gak mcm AA...du ...

salah satu sebab aku buka thread ni nak mengalih direction dari bergaduh antara kopiah dan songkok  kepada isu semasa terkini bagi ku semula.

Glad , they enjoyed my thread. Thinking to open new so call the same current issue .

anti_aktivis

Originally posted by katak_gemok at 10-1-2007 12:49 PM



Begini, kalu anda tanya Pope Benedict pasal sumber hukum bunuh utk murtad dalam ajaran Kristian, dia akan cakap itu adalah spt yg disampaikan dalam OT melalui ayat Leviticus 24:16, Deutero ...

I respect ur source , no comment from me.

first sekali saya nak tanya , anda tahu kan mengikut kepercayaan umat Islam ,  Quran dan Sunnah nabi menjadi panduan kami.

Originally posted by anti_aktivis at 10-1-2007 12:53 PM


I respect ur source , no comment from me.

first sekali saya nak tanya , anda tahu kan mengikut kepercayaan umat Islam ,  Quran dan Sunnah nabi menjadi panduan kami.

Jgn cakap pusing2 saya tanya mana ayat quran yg kata hukum bunuh utk murtad dalam Islam. Kalu ada sila turunkan. Kalu tak ada kata tak ada saja.

naz_1969

Salam AA ,

I am not sure if CI is the appropriate column to discuss on Islam relationship with other religions.
Nevertheless , I like to offer an opinion from a layman person like me.

In my view , there are a lot of missunderstanding between the followers of these two religions. Probably due to so much bad history between these two religion.

It is interesting to note that when Prophet Muhammad (SAW) escaping from his enemy in Mecca , he was temporarily shielded by Christian King in Ethiopia. This has a lasting impact on Prophet Muhammad . It was no suprise when he set-up a first Islam Government or his ummah (the way he likes to term). He have prohibited his followers from intefering the affair of Christian community as well as Jews community. He is that tolerant to Christian.

Perhaps we should take heed the following words from Al-Quran:

"Surely, those who believe, those who are Jewish, the Christians, and the converts; anyone who (1) believes in GOD, and (2) believes in the Last Day, and (3) leads a righteous life, will receive their recompense from their Lord. They have nothing to fear, nor will they grieve." 2:62

So , in Prophet Muhammad (SAW) , he saw a Christian as a Moslem foremost. But sadly , those view were not shared by his followers after his death. This is especially from his former tormentor (the quraisy of Mecca). They now become Islam and they make sure that the center of the Arab World will always be based in Mecca.

Religion of Islam central on one believe , that there is No GOD but One GOD. The intepretation of Islam by your friend is purely on her prejudice.

Wassalam.

budakecik

Originally posted by naz_1969 at 10-1-2007 01:18 PM
Salam AA ,

I am not sure if CI is the appropriate column to discuss on Islam relationship with other religions.
Nevertheless , I like to offer an opinion from a layman person like me.

In m ...

But in Christ, they belive 3 God?:hmm: This isue is mision imposible for a muslim ...