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[MERGED]Q & A tentang penyusuan badan by Syd & Limau Nipis

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Post time 28-1-2009 04:53 PM | Show all posts

Reply #100 limau_nipis's post

wah limau.. .really appreciates your tips...buku hutang susu yang x tahan tu ..insyaallah nak cuba amalkan..
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Post time 28-1-2009 06:24 PM | Show all posts
limo...

nk tnye.. kalo kerap ngepam ni nips xsaket ke?

dan... xde effect kt B ke mcm melayut ke.. (sori ekk.. jgn gelak tau... mmg xtau neh)
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Post time 29-1-2009 09:12 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by kebayaunggu at 28/1/09 06:24 PM
limo...

nk tnye.. kalo kerap ngepam ni nips xsaket ke?

dan... xde effect kt B ke mcm melayut ke.. (sori ekk.. jgn gelak tau... mmg xtau neh)


kebaya,

actually the more you pump.. kita akan bagi signal kat otak yang kita harus produce susu lebih...
kalau nipple sakit, maybe cara mengepam tu tak betul.. you have to check back

B melayut? it's not about bfeeding only lah..
kalau orang tua, mmg tak baginya bagi susu badan, diaorang dok kata B layut la..

tapi faktor usia and hormon changes pun boleh buat B layut apa..

kalau layut pun, sebab nak bagi susu kat anak apa..
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Post time 29-1-2009 09:15 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by aishik78 at 28/1/09 04:53 PM
wah limau.. .really appreciates your tips...buku hutang susu yang x tahan tu ..insyaallah nak cuba amalkan..


aishik.. that's the way to build up stock also
kebanyakan ibu menyusu, ni yang silap.. kalau anak depa minum 15 oz, 15 oz jelah struggle untuk perah..
patutnya, time prolactin level tgh high ni (hormon yang membanyakkan susu), struggle buat stok..

contoh:
kalau anak minum 15 oz,
you pump MORE than 15 oz..
kalau dapat 16 oz satu hari, 1 oz dah boleh jadi stok.. betul tak?

so lama-lama 1 oz tu kalau hari-hari dpt extra 1 oz, menimbun stok jadi bukit, sebab tu i boleh build up stok balik
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Post time 29-1-2009 01:14 PM | Show all posts
ayo limau i mmg struggle nak build up my output ...cuma silap i rasa bila weekend i kurang pump ..i pump bila bb tak minum /tido saja sbb biasanya die gayut kan kekeke...mlm tdi i bgn kul 1.30 /3.30/4.30 ingat nak pump ..alahai bb pun sama bgn gak..last2 sampai kul 6pg die baru tido btul..sudahnya pump kul 7pg dpt 1 oz...pd td kul 9.30-10.15 dpt 3.5oz..ni tgh pump dr kul 12.40sampai 1.15 ade 3oz..
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Post time 29-1-2009 02:12 PM | Show all posts
otai i nak tanya 1 soklan ala2 ngok sket...susu yg kita nak bt stok tu kena simpan dlm aper? dlm botol susu ker? meaning kena bykla bli botol susu?

sekian terima kasih.

berkhidmat untuk keluarga
demi kesejahteraan bersama
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Post time 29-1-2009 02:28 PM | Show all posts

Balas #106 lindasam\ catat

meh ku tlg balaskan...

bole simpan dlm botol susu yg kecik2...
cth mcm botol mlo tu...
pro: xyah transfer2 dlm botol lain.. lepas panaskan, letak puting terus bg bby minum.
con: spacing byk sket pki ler...

or pakai bekas kecik2 mcm bekas dadih...

or plg ekonomi yg senang is pakai liner playtex.. ade 2 saiz 4oz n 8oz...
murah pn murah... byk pon byk...
pro: jimat spacing dlm fridge
con: kne transfer dlm botol lain la..
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Post time 29-1-2009 02:44 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by aishik78 at 29/1/09 01:14 PM
ayo limau i mmg struggle nak build up my output ...cuma silap i rasa bila weekend i kurang pump ..i pump bila bb tak minum /tido saja sbb biasanya die gayut kan kekeke...mlm tdi i bgn kul 1.30 /3 ...


haa jangan culas mengepam walaupun cuti dan dok rumah jer.. masa ni la time yang sesuai untuk build up stok
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Post time 29-1-2009 02:45 PM | Show all posts

Reply #107 kebayaunggu's post

satu lagi.. pakai plastik aiskrim malaysia

tapi pakai plastik ni time anak dah besar, umur 1 tahun ke atas.. kot-kot ler ada hygenic issue lak :2cool:
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Post time 29-1-2009 03:20 PM | Show all posts
tqvm kebaya...nak tau mn bole kita bli playtex plastik tu? bekas dadih tu yg transparent n bole msk m/wave tu ker?


Originally posted by kebayaunggu at 29-1-2009 02:28 PM
meh ku tlg balaskan...

bole simpan dlm botol susu yg kecik2...
cth mcm botol mlo tu...
pro: xyah transfer2 dlm botol lain.. lepas panaskan, letak puting terus bg bby minum.
con: spacing byk ...
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Post time 29-1-2009 04:00 PM | Show all posts

Reply #110 lindasam's post

ada online stores

susuibu, lunatots, momslittleones, lilcaliph

bekas dadih iya yang tu
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Post time 29-1-2009 04:02 PM | Show all posts
ini simpanan EBM pakai plastik aiskrim malaysia



ini pula pakai bekas dadih (atas) dan plastik playtex (bawah). boleh juga masuk bekas jem yang kecik-kecik, tapi kena pastikan bersih

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Post time 29-1-2009 06:32 PM | Show all posts

Balas #110 lindasam\ catat

Originally posted by limau_nipis at 29-1-2009 04:00 PM
ada online stores

susuibu, lunatots, momslittleones, lilcaliph

bekas dadih iya yang tu


kalo xbiase dgn online store, cr kt kedai yg jual brg2 bby yg jual mcm2 brand...

but bkn kedai yg cam anakku ekk...
(pengalaman cr plastik linerku... satu area wangsa maju n setapak ku pusing last2 jmpe kt kedai manjaku blakang k4 w.m.. tu pon yg medela nye... last box)
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Post time 30-1-2009 12:15 PM | Show all posts
tanya boleh?kepada yang sudi menjawab sila la saya amat hargai..

i pegnant anak first,cadang nak bf la.tapi tak tau cara camana lepas i keja nanti..kalau pam simpan kat peti ais tapi bukan kat tempat beku tu boleh tak.agak2 tahan tak.lagi satu kalau letak kat tempat beku nak cairkan susu tue pakai air panas ke camana ek..i memang tak tahu langsung pasal susu badan ni
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Post time 30-1-2009 12:36 PM | Show all posts
meh ku tlg jawab...nurul baik u refer kat page blakang sbb byk info bguna yg bole u dpt psl bf ni. tp ku jawab gak sketla ye...ms ko dlm pantang ko bg direct. in the mean time ko perah susu utk bt stok ms ko keja. bila ko nak panaskan susu tu ko x bole direct atas api or m/wave. ko turunkan susu tu dlm fridge bwh bila dah cair baru gelekan dia tp AWAS! BUKAN GELEK GERUDI YE.
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Post time 30-1-2009 03:05 PM | Show all posts
gelekan camana tuh..
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Post time 1-2-2009 11:07 AM | Show all posts

Balas #116 norulle\ catat

gelekan tu ala2 manja .. tak bole goncang kuat macam bancuh susu formula..kita cuma gelek2 botol tu..eh paham ke..ku blum otai lagi sekadar berkongsi ilmu yang ada
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Post time 3-2-2009 08:19 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by norulle at 30/1/09 12:15 PM
i pegnant anak first,cadang nak bf la.tapi tak tau cara camana lepas i keja nanti..kalau pam simpan kat peti ais tapi bukan kat tempat beku tu boleh tak.agak2 tahan tak.lagi satu kalau letak kat tempat beku nak cairkan susu tue pakai air panas ke camana ek..i memang tak tahu langsung pasal susu badan ni


meh i tolong tempekkan info sikit from thread info about bfeed

http://eforum3.cari.com.my/viewthread.php?tid=392354&extra=page%3D1


STORAGE GUIDELINES FOR HUMAN MILK

These guidelines are for mothers who are expressing milk for a full-term healthy baby. Use clean containers, and wash your hands with soap and water before expressing. or pumping. When providing milk for a baby who is seriously ill and/or hospitalized, check with healthcare providers for instructions.

Where storedStorage temperature
(degrees Fahrenheit)Storage temperature
(degrees Centigrade)How long At room temperature60 degrees F15 degrees C24 hoursAt room temperature66-72 degrees F19-22 degrees C10 hoursAt room temperature79 degrees F25 degrees C4-6 hoursIn a refrigerator32-39 degrees F0-4 degrees C8 daysIn a freezer compartment inside a refrigerator2 weeksIn a self-contained freezer unit of a refrigerator3-4 monthsIn a separate deep freeze with a constant temperature0 degrees F-19 degrees C6 months or longer

SAVE? OR DUMP?
Type of MilkSave or Dump?Why Milk remaining in the bottle that has been offered to babyUse for next feeding, otherwise discard. Bacteria from the baby's mouth may have entered the milk during the feeding. This may lead to bacterial contamination if it sets too long (though as yet there is no research available).Milk that has been thawedSave in the refrigerator for 24 hours after thawing, then discard. Do not refreeze.Milk that has been frozen has lost some of the immune properties that inhibit bacterial growth in fresh refrigerated milk.Milk that has been kept in the refrigerator for eight daysTransfer to storage in the freezer, or discard.Bacterial growth is not a problem, but milk sometimes picks up odors or flavors from the refrigerator or the container.

Credit to: Toronto Public Health

Storing breast milk/Thawing frozen breast milk

Storing breast milk
Freshly expressed breast milk can be stored at room temperature (less than 25癈 or 77癋) for 6-8 hours.
Freshly expressed breast milk must be cooled if not used within 6-8 hours of expressing.

Containers for storing breast milk
Use glass or hard plastic containers with an air-tight lid (for example, small jars and bottles with lids).
Special breast milk freezer bags can also be used.
Do not use bottle liner bags. These are thinner plastic bags that may break when frozen.

Cleaning the containers
For healthy babies wash containers in hot soapy water and rinse well with hot water. Let the containers air dry on a dry clean surface away from where food is made.

Tips for storing breast milk
Cool freshly expressed milk within 1 hour of expressing.
Label containers with date and time.
Store in smaller amounts to prevent wasting milk.
Always cool freshly expressed milk before adding it to already cooled or frozen milk.
Leave a 1 inch space at the top of the container when freezing.

*If your baby is premature (born too early) or in the hospital, speak to your nurse about storing breast milk and cleaning containers. Sterilized containers may be provided by the hospital. Breast milk can be stored in the following ways:


Important:
Place containers at the back of the fridge and freezer where it is the coldest.
After the storage time has passed, throw out the breast milk.

Thawing frozen breast milk

Frozen breast milk that has been thawed can be kept in the fridge for 24 hours.
Do not refreeze breast milk once it is thawed.


Check the date on the stored breast milk. Use the container with the earliest date first.


Thaw frozen breast milk by leaving it in the fridge for 4 hours OR...


...place container under cool running water. Once it has begun to thaw, run warm water to finish thawing.


Never thaw at room temperature.


Warm breast milk by placing the container in a bowl of very warm water.


Do not thaw or heat breast milk on stove or in microwave. Do not refreeze breast milk once it is thawed.

Feeding tips:
Shake warmed breast milk and test the temperature on your wrist before using it.
Hold your baby when feeding expressed breast milk.
Make feedings an enjoyable time for you and your baby. Talk to your baby and give lots of smiles.
Burp your baby as needed.
Use warmed breast milk within 1 hour. Throw away leftover milk.
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Post time 3-2-2009 02:31 PM | Show all posts

Balas #100 limau_nipis\ catat

wow.. limau  cayok la...

la nie nak pump banyak kali la ...setakat nie pump 2 -3 kali jea kat office .. kalu kat umah cuti seminngu... tak pump langsung...

setakat nie okay laghi...tapi takut jugak.. kalu tak pump selalu susu kurang...
cuma nak tau sekali pump tu berapa lama?  setakat nie double pump dapat lebih kurang 7-10 oz depends pada hari...  setakat baby sarah pun minum 12 oz sehari

I guna ameda... dan biasanya sambil buat keje la pump... kadang2 terlupa berapa lama pump ... okay ker camtu...?

satu laghi.. macamana nak overcome baby yang susah bagi susu dalam botol.... adoi... tiap kali cuti panjang mesti melalak2 nangis.. setakat tgh nie baru 1.5oz jea minum... ....
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Post time 4-2-2009 09:09 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by keloncot at 3/2/09 02:31 PM
wow.. limau  cayok la...

la nie nak pump banyak kali la ...setakat nie pump 2 -3 kali jea kat office .. kalu kat umah cuti seminngu... tak pump langsung...

setakat nie okay laghi...tapi takut jugak.. kalu tak pump selalu susu kurang...


kena rajin pump kalau cuti dan duduk di rumah with baby.. sebabnya, masa ni la kita nak pulun dapatkan extra stock

cuma nak tau sekali pump tu berapa lama?  setakat nie double pump dapat lebih kurang 7-10 oz depends pada hari...  setakat baby sarah pun minum 12 oz sehari

I guna ameda... dan biasanya sambil buat keje la pump... kadang2 terlupa berapa lama pump ... okay ker camtu...?

kalau double pump, make sure it is at least 15 minutes.. sampai 20 mins pun boleh
sebab kalau ikut single pump.. 30 mins for both breasts (which is 15 mins untuk one breast)
tapi pastikan bila pump tu, sampai susu habis keluar semua


satu laghi.. macamana nak overcome baby yang susah bagi susu dalam botol.... adoi... tiap kali cuti panjang mesti melalak2 nangis.. setakat tgh nie baru 1.5oz jea minum... ....


itu biasa dah.. sebab dia lagi susu direct dari ibu dia kan.. takpe, nanti lama-lama pandailah baby tu. tapi mmg kena banyak sabar.. baby breastfeed ni mmg manja sangat dengan ibunya.. in fact, kalau hantar nursery (like my son), selalu gak kena complaint nangis tak berhenti kalau hantar hari isnin.. tapi kita nak buat camner, just tawakal jer lah, harap-harap baby dpt menerima perubahan ni.. dan lama-lama dia akan faham, yang kita perlu pergi kerja
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