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AdamBillionaire posted on 6-5-2013 09:42 PM
agent parti politik mmg ada.. dia jadi carca marba sebab SPR sendiri bantu BN.. ada kes masa ...
jijik sungguh kalau begitu...mmg byk peluang ketika blackout. mmg kena train betul2 agen parti ni. |
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winamp05 posted on 6-5-2013 10:07 PM
Aku tak masuk mana mana pati, tapi pasal blackout ni memang dah sinonim dengan pusat kiraan undi sed ...
setuju bro...
tempat aku mmg tak dinafikan kubu BN. tp bila kita org check informal ckp borang 14 tak de cop lah sign lah.. skrng kes pasang lawyer.. nak dptkan hak semula..
pasal blackout tu? mmg betul mereka ada tukar dan lain2 lg.. markas kawasan aku dpt info live lagi ada pegawai PRU terlibat bawa kertas undi spare dlm poket nak menangkan geng2 mereka.. mereka buang undi PR dan teraburkan semula.. nampak tak game mereka?? terdesak bro.. mereka guna bangla? guna fake IC polis tentera undi pos? guna dakwat tak kekal? tp lead PR.. jd mereka gabra.. silap juga anwar umumkan dpt beberapa negeri.. jd tekanan mmg kemuncak kepada pegawai2 PRU.. dan geng2 BN.. sebab tu mereka dah plan awal2.. cuma kita tak jangka isu blackout dan dalam poket ni...
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helle Ding Sue Yean · 462 followers
8 hours ago via mobile ·
What happened?
Why did the unofficial results vary so much from the final announced ones?
I was a counting agent yesterday. Every candidate should have a Counting Agent (CA) to observe and verify the final count in the Saluran he/she is in.
This final count, recounted as many times as necessary, in front of witnesses (CA)s fr all parties contesting - is then put in a form. The Borang 14. The final count is written plainly there, and is agreed, approved and signed by reps from all parties.
And this is supposed to be final, brought to the main EC centre to be tallied. All ballot papers are sealed in bags and then in boxes. Because all the necessary recounts have already been done at each saluran. Really. We were very careful.
Now each Counting Agent will also bring this signed copy back to their party base, and the count from all the different salurans are tallied there. This is how 'unofficial' results come about.
Yesterday, by adding up all the 'scores' - it seemed like PR has won, and won big.
But no announcements were made. At the EC's main counting centres, recounts were requested on seats that BN lost in (even after all the different saluran had already confirmed the count), blackouts happened, mystery boxes appear - and then suddenly - BN candidates are winning. And then and only then, The EC comes out with official result statements: BN has won this seat, BN has won this other seat. Too dodgy.
When our country was born, the EC was formed independent from the executive, as it must be. Today, it answers to the Prime Minister Department. (Kinda like you organizing a contest, you make the rules, terms & conditions, and you are also contesting in it. After that you influence the judge's decision, and all judge's decisions are final. )
The EC has therefore, for a long time lost its voice and might I say, raison d'être. Depressing.
This is Mahathir's doing. It was during his 'far too long' reign that he constitutionally made the EC slave of the PMO.
FYI: It takes a 2/3 majority in Parliament to amend the constitution. Except for 1969, 2008, and now 2013, BN has always won 2/3 of Parliament, Sometimes even 90%. And here you don't really go against your supreme party or you get kicked out.
This is also why our constitution has been amended way too many times and usually for the benefit of a select few. BN. UMNO. And all their cronies.
The fact is:
Democracy didn't die yesterday in Malaysia, it died a long time ago. The moment the EC ceased to be independent.
We are finally realizing it, which means we are in motion to reclaim it. There is some form of respite in that, I guess. But we also know the journey ahead will not be easy. The way things are going, it looks like it will have to get a lot harder before it becomes better. For our sakes, and for our children and country - The people need to be resilient. We need to persevere.
And we need to take important steps.
Paramount to that is to urgently demand a complete reform of the Election Commission (SPR), detach it from the jurisdiction of the PMO, and give it back it's voice.
That, I think, would be a very crucial first step to resuscitate our democracy. |
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flydragon posted on 6-5-2013 09:04 PM
Tak nampak orang liwat tapi percaya seolah olah nampak dengan mata sendiri. , ini siap gambar, tap ...
Asal letak gambau jer wajib hangguk2 percaya la ye... Lenkali nak letak gambau letak la lokasi mana, masa, berapa lama dan apa punca dari TNB ka, fuse terbakar ka, orang tutup suis ka atau tak tau punca apa ka... kalo bab video yang bergerak tu pandai plak macam2 andaian analisis segala keluar... |
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Sekarang ni hopefully 30 parlimen dpt di contest di court and negeri2 hujung tanduk spt Perak dan Terengganu...
Anwar ni nak play by the rules sgt...inilah jadinya. Patutnya infiltrate SPR!! Kata agen 007?? (Haish salah Anwar lagi...) |
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Asal takda video pasal black out ni... video bangla banyak pulak.. video blackout yang dihebohkan satu negara ni satu pon tarak ka?
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this is the translation (for the original status, read the photo)
"Although I look down and hated Barisan Nasional, but I am even more despise people who spread unsubstantiated remarks over the internet.
As one of those who stationed at Bentong constituency, I think I have the responsibility to tell everyone what actually happened.
1) It's only at 10.45 pm the polling station officially confirmed that Wong Tack has lost to Liow Tiong Lai. However, news on "Wong Tack defeats Liow Tiong Lai" had started to spread over the internet around 10 pm. In fact, at that time, Wong Tack was only leading by about 4,000 votes.
2) The headquarter of Bentong vote-counting centre has never had blackout!!!!
Please do not simply believe in news announced over the internet to an irrational extent. Over!!!"
Third, i was shocked at how the Internet sphere actually believed in something that is fabricated from "thin air", as if it was gospel truth, and spread it to the whole world. If we actually bought in this "fabricated news from thin air" as gospel truth, it means that we could have, subconsciously believed alot of other "fabricated news from thin air" without fact findings, and we could have been brain washed by all these "fabricated news from thin air" in the past few years.
For that, i am in fear.
Do share if you agree with me, but if you don't, lets agree to disagree, and for the sake of Malaysia do not throw me rude/violent/humiliating remarks for voicing my view.
from TaI zee Kin FB |
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ala apa susah , kata ada wakil daripada PR dan BN dalam pusat kira undi, tanyalah wakil tu macammana?
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Video bangla banyak.... walaupon banyak jugak video kantoi sebenarnya orang tempatan...
Black out merata tempat juga dikatakan berlaku... tapi haram satu video pon tarak.... kecuali satu video "Scorpion - Black out" dari tuntungreturn...
Mngkinkah kesimpulannya mcm ni >> video bangla boleh direka2..... tapi video black out hampir mustahil direka tanpa bantuan kakitangan polis dan SPR? Last edited by yellowfin on 6-5-2013 11:10 PM
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BlueHand posted on 6-5-2013 09:47 PM
kalau main tambah camtu mestila kantoi kertas undi xsama dengan bilangan yang mengundi.. xkan ...
mesti poket petugas spr kembong2 belaka..maklum nak taruk ribu2 kertas undi..mangkuk tingkat camnie pun ada noooo
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True-X posted on 6-5-2013 11:00 PM
this is the translation (for the original status, read the photo)
"Although I look down and h ...
at least ada yang rational
dari terus dok meroyan cam anwart |
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True-X posted on 6-5-2013 11:00 PM
this is the translation (for the original status, read the photo)
"Although I look down and h ...
mampusla tb ko kena hamput sama red peanut....
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FaithNoMore posted on 6-5-2013 11:09 PM
mesti poket petugas spr kembong2 belaka..maklum nak taruk ribu2 kertas undi..mangkuk tingkat camni ...
aku rasa tak semua SPR sokong BN ...tengok undi pos pun tau ada jer penyokong PR
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AdamBillionaire posted on 6-5-2013 10:47 PM
setuju bro...
tempat aku mmg tak dinafikan kubu BN. tp bila kita org check informal ckp b ...
kat mana kawasan kau mengundi tu? sanggup ke jadi saksi ada petugas SPR masukkan kertas undi dari poket??mmg nampak or hearsay from another hearsay from another hearsay bla3..?
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AdamBillionaire posted on 6-5-2013 10:41 PM
mmg boleh kesan... tp dh buang kertas undi PR.. dia duk campur dalam peti.. berterabur.. lep ...
bape banyak buang sama dgn tambah ek.. sempat kira ek.. buang kat mana?
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SAYA ORANG CINA,KALI INI KAWASAN SAYA CALON PAS DAN BN, SAYA UNDI PAS,AWAK JANGAN TIPU ORANG LAGI. |
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BlueHand posted on 6-5-2013 11:20 PM
bape banyak buang sama dgn tambah ek.. sempat kira ek.. buang kat mana?
Orang SPR tu telan agaknya...
Tu la aku tak paham puak2 ni... ada jer alasan...dah tentu Agen ada checklist... kalo terlebih tak ke kantoi... |
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xiyu8910 posted on 6-5-2013 11:24 PM
SAYA ORANG CINA,KALI INI KAWASAN SAYA CALON PAS DAN BN, SAYA UNDI PAS,AWAK JANGAN TIPU ORANG LAGI.
org ko tipu ko.. ko tauw tak?...
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