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Truth.8

Inside the Kaaba, today: -Many prominent personalities {especially, kings, presidents, prime ministers, etc.} were given the privilege of entering the Kaaba {for a fee}.
The Kaaba is practically almost an empty space {void}.
There are two {some say three} pillars inside {it is not bright inside and so trips into the Kaaba are normally conducted in the mornings, to catch the sunlight through the door}.
There are two ancient unlit oil lantern type lamps hanging from the ceiling.
There is only one door for entrance/exit.
There are no electric lights, or windows.
There are big containers inside {some say, it contains the 360 Hindu idols and some disintegrated parts of it}
There is a table in the side.


Note: I must draw attention to the word 慉llah

ussopp

Originally posted by Truth.8 at 20-3-2008 02:41 PM
Inside the Kaaba, today: -Many prominent personalities {especially, kings, presidents, prime ministers, etc.} were given the privilege of entering the Kaaba {for a fee}.
There are big containers inside {some say, it contains the 360 Hindu idols and some disintegrated parts of it}

relating hindu again......?

owh man.....what an illusionist..............

inside kaaba is consider empty, so if there is a container, the container must be small.....
if the container is big, then kaaba is not consider as empty....

and to fill 360 idols in a small container in  the kaaba, then the idol must be so so small.....
if not , the container must be overload....

sigh


cut this out, mr truth.....!

pandora272

Originally posted by ussopp at 20-3-2008 04:23 PM


relating hindu again......?

owh man.....what an illusionist..............

inside kaaba is consider empty, so if there is a container, the container must be small.....
if the container ...

In reality Kaabah memang empty except for the 3 pillars and lamps.

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Truth.8

Originally posted by ussopp at 20-3-2008 04:23 PM


relating hindu again......?

owh man.....what an illusionist..............

inside kaaba is consider empty, so if there is a container, the container must be small.....
if the container ...

i am curious, why must have containers, lamp, table ??? for what reason? dont think it better to have if empty?

Truth.8

Originally posted by pandora272 at 20-3-2008 05:01 PM


In reality Kaabah memang empty except for the 3 pillars and lamps.

There are two ancient unlit oil lantern type lamps hanging from the ceiling

why need this ? it similar to hindus who put oil lamps to light up for their gods

very fishy inside the room

Truth.8

Originally posted by Nazrulism at 20-3-2008 05:51 PM
The Cross:

It is well known that the first symbol of Christianity was that of a fish. On sacramental cups, seals, and lamps the Holy Spirit was symbolized by a dove and Christ by a fish (perh ...

we talking about kabba not symbol chrisitans. cut the crap or create new topic on this

Nazrulism

The Cross: It is well known that the first symbol of Christianity was that of a fish. On sacramental cups, seals, and lamps the Holy Spirit was symbolized by a dove and Christ by a fish (perhaps because at the time, fish was one of the elements of the sacred meal) or by a shepherd carrying a sheep on his shoulders (from Luke 15:3-7) The cross was not adopted until long after the departure of Jesus. One of the main reasons for this was the fact that he who dies on the cross is considered cursed by God (Galatians 3:13). Current historical knowledge recognizes the fact that the cross was well recognized as a religious symbol long before the advent of Jesus (pbuh). It was adored in India as the symbol of the Hindu god Agni, the "light of the world." It was placed in the hands of Siva, Brahma, Vishnu, Krishna, Tvashtri, and Jama. The cross was also well known among the Buddhists from ancient times and the followers of Lama of Thibet.
The ancient Egyptians also adopted the cross as a religious symbol of their pagan gods. Countless Egyptian drawings depict themselves holding crosses in their hands. Among them, the Egyptian savior Horus is depicted holding a cross in his hand. He is also depicted as an infant sitting on his mother's knee with a cross on the seat they occupy. The most common of the crosses used by these pagan Egyptians, the CRUX ANSATA, was later adopted by the Christians.

Fish: Symbol of last supper The Egyptian savior, Osiris, the Egyptian god of the dead and the underworld, is sometimes represented holding out this cross to mortals signifying that this person has discarded mortality for the life to come.
Another cross has been unearthed in Ireland. It belongs to the cult of the Persian god of the sun "Mithra-Mithra-->" and bears a crucified effigy. The Greeks and Romans too adopted the cross as their religious symbol many centuries before Christianity did the same. An ancient inscription in Tessaly is accompanied by a Calvary cross. More crosses can be found to adorn the tomb of king Midas in Phrygia. The above references may be referred to for many more examples.

Truth.8

Originally posted by Nazrulism at 20-3-2008 05:56 PM
The Cross: It is well known that the first symbol of Christianity was that of a fish. On sacramental cups, seals, and lamps the Holy Spirit was symbolized by a dove and Christ by a fish (perhaps  ...

we talking about kabba not symbol chrisitans. cut the crap or create new topic on this

Nazrulism

The "Trinity": Now let us study the "Trinity" and it's roots in ancient pagan worship. The "Trinity" of Christendom, as defined in the creed of Nicea, is a merging of three distinct entities into one single entity, while remaining three distinct entities. We are told to speak of the three gods as one god, and never as three gods which would be considered heresy (Isaiah 43:10). They are considered to be co-eternal, co-substantial, and co-equal. However, only the first was self existent. The others preceded from the first. This Neo-Platonic philosophical doctrine has it's roots not in the inspiration of God, but in ancient paganism. Most ancient religions were built upon some sort of threefold distinction. Deities were always trinities of some kind or consisted of successive emanation in threes.
In India we find the doctrine of the divine trinity called "Tri-murti" (Three-forms) consisting of Brahma, Vishnu, and Siva. It is an inseparable unity though three in form. Worshipers are told to worship them as one deity. Such concepts posed no problem to the logic of a Hindu worshipper since they were already used to worshipping gods with the body of a man and the head of an elephant(Ganesh), or monkey-faced gods (Hanuman), or gods with six arms, and so forth. Remember, classical Hinduism dates back to at least 500BC, with roots extending as far back as 2000BC.
The Brahmas also have their trinity. In their trinity, Vajrapani, Manjusri, and Avalokitesvara form a divine union of three gods into one god called "Buddha." The citizens of China and Japan also worship Buddha, but they know him as "Fo." When they worship him they say "Fo, is one god but has three forms."


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Nazrulism

Originally posted by Truth.8 at 20-3-2008 05:53 PM



we talking about kabba not symbol chrisitans. cut the crap or create new topic on this

                                  

ussopp

Originally posted by Truth.8 at 20-3-2008 05:49 PM



i am curious, why must have containers, lamp, table ??? for what reason? dont think it better to have if empty?

okey, what ever lah truth 8....you can continue your curiousity about that later....

but right now, stop the  illussion on 360 idols in the container inside kaabah in this recent time  first.....

and dont bring it back in this forum......let it finish here......

Truth.8

Originally posted by Nazrulism at 20-3-2008 06:02 PM
The "Trinity": Now let us study the "Trinity" and it's roots in ancient pagan worship. The "Trinity" of Christendom, as defined in the creed of Nicea, is a merging of three distinct entities into ...

I am not trinity. Btw, Chrisitans do not worshipped Hindu god trinity. u making fool out of urself

Truth.8

Originally posted by Nazrulism at 20-3-2008 06:02 PM
In India we find the doctrine of the divine trinity called "Tri-murti" (Three-forms) consisting of Brahma, Vishnu, and Siva. ...

Three forms but One God.....thats what i heard from hindus. meaning:

Brahma  : creator
Vishnu  : preserver
Siva    : Destroyer


This three not three in person but one God with same task......... from hindus believed

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gunblade712

Originally posted by Truth.8 at 20-3-2008 11:06 PM



Three forms but One God.....thats what i heard from hindus. meaning:

Brahma  : creator
Vishnu  : preserver
Siva    : Destroyer


This three not three in person but one God with same task......... from hindus believed

so what's the diff with Christianity?

orangbesi

salam
by kakpan:
In reality Kaabah memang empty except for the 3 pillars and lamps

ye le begitulah
dulu tak ada pillars, pasal dulu tak bertudung atas
hanya dinding ajeee
lamps - biasa leee
dah masuk dalam gelap/malam pasanglah lampu
   dan spare jika org lain masuk
   alaaaa cam gua gak tuuuu
meja - kot la truth8 nak tumpang baca AL QURAN kat dalam
   boleh gak aku tolong temankan
   ok tak???

yaminz

So your are protestant???

Truth.8

Originally posted by orangbesi at 21-3-2008 09:39 AM
salam
by kakpan:
In reality Kaabah memang empty except for the 3 pillars and lamps

ye le begitulah
dulu tak ada pillars, pasal dulu tak bertudung atas
hanya dinding ajeee
lamps - biasa le ...

yg ada container ? macam mana itu??

Truth.8

Originally posted by gunblade712 at 21-3-2008 09:03 AM


so what's the diff with Christianity?

trinity is not  my faith. so dont ask me about trinity.

gunblade712

container? what's with the container?

so you are into something called "two-ness" or something like that...
so what is the diff?

Two forms, one God.. rite?

orangbesi

salam

memang dulu tak ada apa-apa kat dalam
ada dlm riwayat kata ada cam tanduk tergantung disana (masa prophet)
dan prophet ada solat di dalamnya pada satu penjuru

nanti saya cuba tanya kedutaan saudi
apa yg ada dlm container tuuu. ok