Tolerance.....how can we achieve it?

FaithHealer3

Originally posted by KENNKID at 11-7-2006 08:55 AM
When you are intolerant & prejudiced, I become biadab (rude), conceited (sombong) and boastful (angkuh)? ... What kind of logic is that...and just because of the call (azan) to worship your ...

Kenny you have been brainwashed terribly. You think other people at fault for voicing out their irritation caused by your nuisance. Just like you, most muslims are experts at playing victim even when they are the trouble makers.

You people show intolerance for other people's believe in their gods by screaming that there is no other god but only the arabian god. Thats pure sign of instigation for retaliation. Thank goodness many non-muslims don't know what you people are screaming in arabic. Most non-muslim only know that its noisy.

Oreng

Originally posted by FaithHealer3 at 10-7-2006 09:46 PM
5 minit konon.. open your ears and listen lah.. before one masjid finishes the Azan another will start.. you guy can't even follow syncronised timing.

Even 5 minutes is enough to create intolerance especially if you are screaming that "All?hu Akbar.. Ash-hadu all? il?ha illall?h "  using mega watt loud speaker .. when your neighours don't believe in Allah as the only god.

If your neighbour is a Hindu, the bells ring from time to time, more than 5 minutes. If you have more than two Hindu neighbours, then the ringing would get louder and accumulative. But I have never heard a muslim complaints about the bell ringing (not to be confused with ring tones on your hp) in the newspaper or magazine or via NGO. Compound that with the smell.. I dont know what smell is that.. it can make you vomit and better for you to go shopping for a while and come back later. Compound that with the sound of kids crying... i have an inkling that they beat their childs when praying...

[ Last edited by  Oreng at 11-7-2006 04:48 PM ]

FaithHealer3

Originally posted by Oreng at 11-7-2006 04:44 PM
If your neighbour is a Hindu, the bells ring from time to time, more than 5 minutes. If you have more than two Hindu neighbours, then the ringing would get louder and accumulative. But I have never ...

Its obvious why most muslim don't complain much about hindu bells. Only muka-tak-malu muslim will complain because muslims they themself are guilty of causing noisy nuisance.

There may be genuine hindus who ring bells when praying.. but i know few hindus who purposely ring the loud bells to annoy the muslim.. the reason is azan.

I don't know what hindu cult beat their children when praying. The hindus in know, love their children.

eastrun

Originally posted by FaithHealer3 at 11-7-2006 05:01 PM

Its obvious why most muslim don't complain much about hindu bells. Only muka-tak-malu muslim will complain because muslims they themself are guilty of causing noisy nuisance.

There may be genu ...

It obvious that Christian like you yang muka tak malu. Muslims have no complains for the Hindus. Showing that Muslims can tolerate with other religions.Not like you...you cannot tolerate even for 5 minutes..

You tak payah nak tipu la...no two mosques built in the same area...If the 1st mosque laungkan azan, I am sure that you won't listen the second mosque's clearly, because it is far away from the area. So it is not a problem at all. If azan tak dilaungkan, then give us method how to call/tell Muslims that it is time to worship Allah?.:siok:

FaithHealer3

Originally posted by eastrun at 11-7-2006 06:17 PM
It obvious that Christian like you yang muka tak malu.

you are talking rubbish.

Originally posted by eastrun at 11-7-2006 06:17 PM
Muslims have no complains for the Hindus. Showing that Muslims can tolerate with other religions.Not like you...you cannot tolerate even for 5 minutes..

Again talking rubbish.

The muslims in Mlaysia are force to be passive by the law.. not thru' tolerance crap.

How can people so easily forget what had happen in Malaysia. Hindu temples are a torn in the sights of muslims. you can't deny this.

Best example would be in the 1998 in Penang where the intolerant muslims cannot "tahan" seeing hindus  renovate their temple and launch attacks.. kononya the temple bell is loud .. like pot calling the kettle black..  LOL

read..
http://www.hvk.org/hvk/articles/0498/0067.html

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yusmar

Originally posted by FaithHealer3 at 13-7-2006 09:33 PM
you are talking rubbish.

Again talking rubbish.

The muslims in Mlaysia are force to be passive by the law.. not thru' tolerance crap.

How can people so easily forget what had happen in Mal ...

Dear FaithHealer3,

i am sorry if you feel that muslims are not tolerant but Islam is. For example....the demolishing of the hindu temple recently which I receive the news from an Indian friend of mine. Please read it.....in Kelantan these things does not happen...or even in Indonesia but this things happened due to some irresponsible people that want to make money out of it....i do not blame you for feeling that way and I do understand how you feel.

http://forum.cari.com.my/viewthr ... &extra=page%3D1

its hard for me to tell you not to feel the way you feel but i can only say that...please do not think that Islam is such an EVIL religion because it is not.

I can only apologize for the grievances done not by the muslims only....but by Malaysians in general.

Thank you.

FaithHealer3

Originally posted by eastrun at 11-7-2006 06:17 PM
You tak payah nak tipu la...no two mosques built in the same area...If the 1st mosque laungkan azan, I am sure that you won't listen the second mosque's clearly, because it is far away from the area. So it is not a problem at all.

I guess you are just never been to places where there are more that one mosque in vicinity.. or you are just a bit too deaf.

Originally posted by eastrun at 11-7-2006 06:17 PM
If azan tak dilaungkan, then give us method how to call/tell Muslims that it is time to worship Allah?.

Guess you are not familiar with alarm clocks.

FaithHealer3

Originally posted by yusmar at 13-7-2006 09:50 PM
i am sorry if you feel that muslims are not tolerant but Islam is. For example....the demolishing of the hindu temple recently which I receive the news from an Indian fr ...

You seem like a nice person.. i realy don't want to offend you.

.. but since you also appear to be very naive about destruction of temples by islam,  i want to remind you that Islam encourages the act of destroying temples where idol worship is practiced.. as shown by Muhammad when he conquered Mecca.. Kaba was a temple, when Muhammad conquer Meccan, he destroyed all the idols in the Kaba.. except for the aswad stone. His followers destroyed all the temples in Arabia. Muslims who destroy temple s are just following what Muhammad and his sahabas have done.

If muslims are intolerant to other religions, its because of islam. Islam teaches that other religions are not acceptable to Allah.  you cannot deny this.. cos' its in your holy book.

It just don't make sence to say Islam is good but the followers who religiously follow islam are bad.