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Langkasuka / Queen of Langkasuka

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Post time 18-12-2008 10:56 AM | Show all posts
Tunggu la  sampai masa...bungkuslah THAILAND tu...kalu rajin perati...huru-hara yang berlaku di Thailand sekarang bermula selepas "pembunuhan beramai-ramai" di Masjid Kerisek...lepas tu sampai sekarang huru-hara. Kalu tak silap...sejarah penguasaan orang-orang THAI "perut hijau" bermula dengan "PHYA TAKSIN" sekitar abad ke-17...mungkin akan berakhir setelah tamatnya era Perdana Menteri TAKSIN ! Sama-sama lah kita doakan kehancuran THAILAND...semoga TANAH MELAYU, BUMI PATANI, TANAH USANG PUSAKA MOYANG akan kembali MERDEKA...MERDEKA....MERDEKA
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Post time 18-12-2008 11:49 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by BeachBoys at 9-4-2008 04:46 PM
banyak cara tapi sume tu bergantung pada komitmen kerajaan malaysia......aku tak boleh cerita takut timbul konflik kat dalam forum ni.......


tul....kalau kita cerita lebeh-lebeh memang konflik pun....
lagi pun kenapa british serahkan ke empat-empat negeri tu kat siam kita pun kurang maklumat....
1943 bukan lama sangat...
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Post time 19-12-2008 02:26 AM | Show all posts



Kredit : David Hatcher Childress
Lost Cities of China, Central Asia and India

[ Last edited by  tok_wann at 19-12-2008 09:57 PM ]
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Post time 19-12-2008 09:31 AM | Show all posts
langkasuka ni sekarang negeri mana? kedah ke kelantan ke pattani?
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Post time 19-12-2008 11:21 AM | Show all posts

Balas #106 milay\ catat

yang aku tahu..kemboja ni ada 2 bahasa..satu cham dam satu lagi khemer..cham lebih senang nak belajar sebab ada iras2 bahasa melayu..kalo tak silap aku laa..kalo khemer,no satu dorang panggil muii,no 2=pi..kalo cham lak,no 1 dorang panggil se,no 2=tua..

maaf kalo info aku ini salah..
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Post time 31-12-2008 03:58 PM | Show all posts

Salam sejahtera buat semua forumer

Disini sy ingin membawa satu hipotesis yg mana bunyinya agak ekstrim bg sesetengah pihak sebenarnya bumi nusantara sekiranya lembaran sejarahnya diselak semula,takkan mampu mana-mana pihak dpt claim hak eksklusif ke atas tanah bertuah ini.Sejarahnya sangat panjang serta buktinya chronicle yg sgt panjg ni begitu memenatkan utk dibincangkan dlm sehari. cukuplah menceritak sejaranhya sejak kependudukan bangsa manusia dari zaman selepas banjir besar Nabi Noh a.s sungguhpun begitu pengkhabarannya tetap kompleks namun sgt menarik.

Di sini ingin saya utarakan bahawa, keturunan yg terawal menduduki indo-china (sebahagian dari nusantara) adalah bangsa Siam,Mon,Khmer,Annam. Seperti yg kita tahu bangsa Siam original telah di re-branding semula dgn nama Melayu setelah Kerajaan Benua siam Islam Kedah yakni berpusat di Ayyuthaya telah tumbang di tangan Raja Rama 1,Dinasti Chakri.Lalu puak sukhotai menyerap serta meng 'claim' kebudayaan dan legasi bangsa Siam asal menjadi hakmilik mereka.Lalu Bangsa Siam bertukar identiti beragamakan buddha.Sedangkan Siam asal telah lama memeluk Islam dari syariat hanafi, kemudian memeluk Islam syariat nabi Muhammad S.A.W kita.Disinilah turning point legasi serta jatidiri siam berpindah milik kepada sukhothai yg kafir tadi.Asal melayu ialah dari SIAM jua.

Sedangkan bangsa Siam asal menganut Islam serta digelar ya Summu Ul-Amir(bangsa berderjat tinggi beraja mulia).KAlau di kaji maksud SIAM sendiri tak diketahui oleh org thai atau sukhothai.SIAM adalah nama leluhur bagi bangsa Siam.Siapa SIAM? SIAM mengalami evolusi bunyi dari nama asalnya Simeon.Siapa Simeon? Keturunan Nabi Yaakob a.s dari anaknya nombor dua Simeon atau Shimon(bhs Hebrew).Disebabkan itulah SIAM digelar Summu Ul Amir bangsa berdarjat tinggi sudah tentu kerana Simeon adalah anak kpd seorang nabi yang mulia yakni Nabi Yaakob a.s..(rujuk blog sejarah nagara Kedah).

Cuba korang kaji Angkor Watt ianya mempunyai persamaan dgn Great Pyramid.Apakah korang pernah baca bhw sejarah nabi Yusof a.s adik kepada Simeon diangkat jadi Raja Mesir?Siapa yang merancang utk menghapus Nabi Yusof a.s kalau bukan ianya cetusan ilham dari Simeon hatta dengki kpd Nabi Yusof dek krn dia anak yg paling disayangi oleh Nabi Yaakob a.s.Maka keturunan SIAM adalah dari Simeon.Sudah Melayu adalah asalnya bangsa SIAM jua,cuba lihat sifat 'phd' melayu sama jer mcm Simeon malahan Simeon nih gagah orangnya,baran dan cepat melenting serta mengamuk habis satu bandar Shechem dimusnahkan dlm satu malam saja klu berdasarkan riwayat dlmOld Testament of the holy Scriptures.

Disebabkan itu perkataan 'amuk' digunakan utk perlakuan baran,melenting dlm kamus omputeh dan amuk berasal dari bahasa Melayu,nampak tak?So betul kata pepatah mana tak tumpah kuah kalau tak ke nasi,kan.Sifat baka atau DNA memag akan diwarisi dari generasi ke generasi.

Twelve Lost Tribe atau Al-Asbaath(merujuk kpd 12 anak2 Nabi Yaakob a.s) telah mendiami Ancient Cambodia serta ibukotanya Champa suatu masa dahulu lebih kurang 2200 SM.Khmer itu sebenarnya bermaksud Haikal atau Temples yg merujuk kpd keturunan Twelve Lost Tribe.Ada Sebuah tugu Atau binaan batu yg besar di Kambujudesa dari situlah asal haikal atau Khmer yang dibina oleh 12 Lost Tribe of Israel yg datang bersama nabi Musa a.s dan Nabi Harun a.s setelah lepas dari cengkaman Firaun Menrere II atau Pepi II. sorry lah kalau hipotesis kurang menyenangkan bagi sesetengah pihak.
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Post time 31-12-2008 07:19 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Narutah at 19-12-2008 09:31 AM
langkasuka ni sekarang negeri mana? kedah ke kelantan ke pattani?


Langkasuka tu empayar yg merangkumi semua negeri-negeri yg awak sebut tu.Kota atau pusat pentadbirannya mungkin berubah-ubah mengikut kesesuaian dan kehendak pemerintahnya.Sedangkan pusat pentadbiran Malaysia yg umurnya setahun jagung ini pun sudah betukar dari Kuala Lumpur ke Putra Jaya inikan pula Langkasuka yg terdiri berabad lamanya.Samalah juga dengan Sriwijaya.Mungkin ia pernah berpusat di Palembang,mungkin sebelum itu di Brunei dan mungkin juga di Chaiya.Pernah juga tercatit yg Kedah merupakan pelabuhan no.1 empayar Sriwijaya.
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Post time 1-1-2009 03:04 AM | Show all posts

Reply #127 centrix7's post

apabila cerita2 macam ni masuk khutbah jumaat MMU arituh, aku mula risau, risau bila orang sendiri in denial tentang asal-usul mereka..
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Post time 24-1-2009 05:33 PM | Show all posts

We are proud to be Langkasukans, Not Malays

Langkasuka was not Malay nor Siamese Kingdom. Malay only being imposed here in our Northern Malaya Peninsula area since 13th AD when the Muslim Sultanate in our City-State asking Malacca help to be free from Siam, they are asking Malacca to help because of the similarity in religion. If we read carefully the Malay Chronicle (Sejarah Melayu) itself, the Malays had mentioned about Siam Asli. Siam Asli does not means Pure Siam. It means the Aborigine in Siam Empire which are of Mon-Khmeric stock. Unfortunately the Aborigines in the Siam Empire are earlier civilized and already had contacts with ancient Indians (BC).

Earlier our City-States in Langkasuka Kingdom being vassals to Srivijaiya around 7th AD when Malays from Palembang attacked the Kingdom. Langkasuka consists of many city-states. Kedah, Patani (Pan Pan), Tanah Merah (Chih-Tu), Tambralinga, Grahi-Jaiyya (Surat Thani), Phuket-Thalang, Pahang (13th AD), Trangganu and other related Kingdom in Perak which is Gangga Nagara. In 14th AD, Malacca had sent their prince to administrate Perak. In 14th AD too Malacca had attacked Pahang on their way to Kelantan which is also to attack Kelantan. Kelantan King at that time, Raja Sakti already embraced Muslim because of Patani missionaries guide but Pahang King is not Muslim, he is a Buddhist and had relationship with Sri Ayuttaya. There are also Proto-Malays living in Coastal Areas but they are not establishing Kingdom instead of Villages.

Siam is synonymous to Sri Ayuttaya. Sukhotai only is not Siam. Sukhotai did absorbing us in South (North Malayan Peninsula) after it had attacked Ligor (Nakhon Sri Thammarat/Tambralinga). Nakhon Sri Thammarat were used by Siam to supervise us in the South. Before that we have 12 AD cycle system of animals (Payama) representing the city-states to co-operate in protecting each other but once one had fall prey to other power, the Kingdoms had one-by-one being defeated (Phra Dathu Nakhorn Chronicle).

So, we are from Northern Malaya Pensinsula (Natives) precisely should be classified as Langkasukans. Anyone from Kedah, Kelantan, Terengganu, and North Pahang, and South Thai region should be referred as Langkasukan not Malay like the Mons who are known according to their Kingdom. We are the natives in our states.

Yes, we speak Malay language and T'ai-Kadai language in Northern Malayan Peninsula doesn't mean that we are really Malays or Thais. That is just because the recent Empire that piling on us are Siam-Si Ayuttaya (Thai) and Srivijaya-Malacca (Malay). We also have our own dialects/languages (from Older language which is not Malay nor Thai).

As well as other people from Kedah, Kelantan, Terengganu and North Pahang, I am very proud to be a Langkasukan ...
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Post time 24-1-2009 06:29 PM | Show all posts
Kalau cakap pasal bahasa, memang banyak bahasa kedah dan Penang yang orang kelantan faham tapi orang KL tak faham.
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Post time 24-1-2009 06:44 PM | Show all posts

Balas #2 WonBin\ catat

memang, sesetangah istilah aku perhati, banyak yg sama antara loghhat kelantan dgn loghat utara
-mungkinkah kita bersaudara?
-bahsa melayu standard sekanrang ni sebenarnya adaptasi loghat johor, contoh, perkataan 'semalam" bg org pantai barat ia bermaksud sehari sbelum hari ni, tp bg org utara dan panatai timur ia dipanggiol kelmarin
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Post time 24-1-2009 06:45 PM | Show all posts

Balas #1 langkasukan\ catat

ada eloknya langkasukan baca blogspot ni:

http://sejarahnagarakedah.blogspot.com/
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Post time 24-1-2009 06:45 PM | Show all posts

Balas #1 langkasukan\ catat

tp, langkasuka dah pupus bersama aliran zaman dan dilupakan
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Post time 24-1-2009 08:24 PM | Show all posts

Reply #135 aizverus's post

I have different view with you ... I am Langkasukan and also Malaysian .. not Malay.

Definition of Malay in our constitution is so weird because it is a political definition. How can you make a definition that Malay should be Islam ?

For me, Malays are ethnic who are living in Nusantara (East Sumatra, Southern Malaya Peninsular, West Borneo and Brunei).

[ Last edited by  langkasukan at 24-1-2009 08:28 PM ]
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Post time 25-1-2009 11:41 AM | Show all posts

Reply #136 langkasukan's post

I have different view with you ... I am Langkasukan and also Malaysian .. not Malay.
  U Langkasukan? My ass !! hok benar demo ni oghe langkasuka, gapo tak kecek gini? You just the same person with a different skin la..i know who u r !
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Post time 25-1-2009 05:47 PM | Show all posts

Balas #140 aizverus\ catat

kecek gapo dio?
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Post time 25-1-2009 10:33 PM | Show all posts

Reply #140 aizverus's post

hehe, mamat langkasukan ni sebenarnye mat indon , si jf_pratama, bile second nick dier 'Mamathir' dah terbongkar, jadi dier buat la nick baru. Dia ni dari dulu lagi tak puas hati kenapa kat Malaysia, melayu mesti diassociatekan dengan islam.. . Baca la pos2 terdahulu, and nanti kau faham la
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Post time 26-1-2009 10:50 AM | Show all posts
MELAYU MUDAH LUPA
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Post time 26-1-2009 03:47 PM | Show all posts

Reply #142 dCrook's post

Aku Setuju mamat tuh tak habis2 dengan idola Sukarno dier tuh.....
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Post time 26-1-2009 09:04 PM | Show all posts

Reply #145 aizverus's post

setuju dengan pendapat kau.. but still, aku lebih prefer kalau kajian lebih byk ditumpukan kepada kerajaan2 sebelum melaka... melaka for me too overated
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