[MERGED]Q & A tentang penyusuan badan by Syd & Limau Nipis

noraienz · Post time 4-2-2009 09:48 AM

salam...nk tanye la...baby sy baru je masuk 4 bulan...2-3 minggu kebelakangan ni dia asek bangun sejam sekali tetiap malam nk minum susu...tp nk sikit je..ala2 cukup bekalan sejam...suh minum lg dah tanak...adeh...normal ke mcm tu...kat nursery bagi 20 oz hari2...cukup je..kdg2 ade lebih pulak..tp bila kat umah dgn sy..minum sejam skali...

confuse ni..nak kate susu tak cukup..byk je alhamdulillah..sampai mancut2 kdg2 tu..die dah tanak pulak..

adekah ini yg dipanggil growth spurt? adoi pengsan sejam skali mau bangun tetiap mlm....

limau_nipis · Post time 4-2-2009 11:13 AM

alah.. biasalah tu

my baby bawah 6 months pun minum 20 oz kat nurseri
yang tak tahan, dok rumah... tiap2 jam bangun malam minum susu..
lagipun rasanya baby dah tau, beza susu direct breastfeed dan susu dalam botol
lagipun anak pun dah boleh bau dan nampak mamanya, so confirm la dia akan minum selalu...

sampai skrg my baby (1 year 10 months today) minum sikit-sikit camtu kalau ngan saya... macam kita ni air paip dibuatnya, sekejap paip tutup, sekejap kena bukak.. cuit sikit-sikit nak basah tekak

noraienz · Post time 4-2-2009 05:23 PM

hehehe...kalau mcm tu..ok la...kira normal la kan...dia mcm saje nk basah2 tekak kan...

websandro · Post time 13-2-2009 10:43 AM

nk tanya la,

ok dak klu susu yg dibekalkn pd bs hanya diletakn dlm cooler bag wit colemen chiller yg ada 6 lekuk + tehcni ice kat bhgn ats susu2 td? atau mmg perlu ditransfer msk fridge bila da smpi umah BS? baby kt umah BS dr 7.30 smpi 5.30 jer.

lg satu. selepas amek baby dr umah bs, web notice selalunye ada xtra satu btl lg yg xterusik. jarang2 je abih kesemua 5 botol (each wit 3oz) setiap hari tuh. so susu yg xdiminum ni bleh dibekukn dak (mengambil kira faktor xtransfer susu td dr cooler bag ke fridge di umah BS)?

ajasu · Post time 14-2-2009 07:18 PM

salam web..

before nih Aja buat yang macam web practice kan tuh
sebab kat nursery, my Rayyan duduk atas kat nursery yang 2 storey house
so nk elakkan pengasuh yg jaga baby tuh turun naik (which confirm dia akan tinggalkan babies alone kan?) so aja buh 5 botol dlm satu cololer bag. pastu... mmg sometimes ada lebih satu, which Aja kekdg panaskan dan bg mlm hari..tapi biasalah mana baby nk minum dr botol kalau kita ada kat umah..

so ape Aja buat, kalau ada lebih satu, Aja mintak simpan kan kat fridge mereka.

tapi nowadays, sebab my Rayyan dh setahun, dh x duduk kat bilik baby kat atas, Aja buh 5 botol ebm tuh dlm bekas tupperware... and slm 5 botol tuh sometims mmg ada 1 lebih, Aja suh diorg biar dlm fridge n bg utk esok.

kesimpulan Aja, yg baki satu dr cooler bag
1) samada web ambil bwk balik panas kan n bg utk mlm, atau bwk balik simpan dlm fridge balik
2) tgk suhu dlm cooler bag, kalau sejuk n 'boleh dipercayai' suh pangasuh simpan utk esok dlm fridge dia
3) kurangkan satu botol yang selalu lebih tuh... (jalan selamat, letak 2-3 ketul frozen ebm kat umah pengasuh..so kalau x cukup 5 botol fresh EBM, 1 tuh boleh guna frozen sementara web nak ambil kat pengasuh)

websandro · Post time 14-2-2009 10:58 PM

tq ajasu..;)..lama web tunggu respon..hehehe

nway, web slalu bekukan terus je balance yg sebtl tuh sbb web rs suhu dlm cooler bag masih sejuk w/pun xsesejuk ms pagi2 dibekalkn tu. itu yg menjd tanda tanya sbb masih ada perubahan suhu kat situ. takut xelok utk disimpan lg je laa

terasa nk kurangkn bekalan kpd 4 btl aje tp takut plak xcukup. nk mntk BS simpan dlm fridge dia ok gak gitu kan. at least simpan sebtl 4 emergency demand ptg2 hr tu. apepun. tq!

p/s: nk tanya psl medela quickclean wipes la. ni mcm wet tisu baby tu ka?

kebayaunggu · Post time 15-2-2009 09:02 AM

web... nk senang bg yg beku tu dlm 2-3 ketul...
suh BS simpan yg tu as a stok kt umah dia..

ku bg gak yg beku nih kt BS...
tp yg ni dlu BS bg ky isha....
ponat den explen,,,

deba · Post time 2-3-2009 11:21 PM

ahaa..bole ke nak tumpang tanye kat sini?

saya plan nak breastfeed lepas melahirkan nanti..so im totally a newbie ngan first time mum.memang zero knowledge pasal bf ni..harap otai2 sudi membantu!

1. Berapa hari selepas pantang saya patot start pam ebm?Ada yang kata seminggu dan sebagainya.so confuse sket.

2. Peralatan cam warmer ngan sterilizer tu kena beli ke?

3. Kalau contoh nak jalan2 and nak bagi ebm dalam bottle ke baby...dia tahan ke dalam keadaan suhu bilik?and berapa jam tahan?kena simpan dalam special bag ke ape ke?

aha..sorry bebetul blur and tetau ni.walaupun malu..tepaksa gak tanya soalan2 ni.

asu · Post time 3-3-2009 12:28 AM

deba...tahniah sbb memilih utk BF baby anda...

jawapan utk soklan 1: asu dulu masa hari ke-4 dah start pam dan buat stok EBM sbb masa tu breast dah bengkak susu...based on experienced masa anak first, time ni jugak nipple akan crack dan anak akan selalu tersedak ketika menyusu sbb susu akan memancut2 laju. dgn asu pam sblm breast penuh dan bengkak mmg terbukti anak takde masalah nak hisap sbb susu pun dah tak laju. nipple kita pun kurang sakit sbb kita pam sblm sempat breast bengkak

asu · Post time 3-3-2009 12:32 AM

jawapan utk soklan 2: kalau mampu boleh la beli semua gadget2 tu. kalau takde warmer, boleh je rendam dalam air suam. sterilizer pulak boleh kita replaced dgn siram air panas keatas semua aksessori BF kita (botol, teat, flanges)

asu · Post time 3-3-2009 12:37 AM

jawapan utk soklan 3:

case 1: susu yg fresh, baru dipam la ni...boleh tahan 5 - 8 jam dlm suhu bilik. kalau duk kat kawasan ekon so boleh sampai la 8 jam tu

case 2 : susu yg kat dalam fridge bahagian bawah (chiller), lepas keluarkan kita rendam air suam...susu ni tahan 3 jam sahaja

case 3 : susu kat bahagian beku, kita cairkan dgn rendam dlm air suam...susu ni pun tahan 3 jam sahaja.

tak perlu ada special bag terutama susu yg fresh tu...tahan lama...

deba · Post time 3-3-2009 06:32 PM

wooo...macam tu yeh.aaaa... teat n tanges tu ape eh?
eheee.malunye la.

limau_nipis · Post time 6-3-2009 11:03 AM

teat ialah puting botol susu

tanges?

aziiemy · Post time 6-3-2009 12:53 PM

nak tanya lah..

i still have keras keras kat both breast.. mungkin pasal ada blocked.
try juga tuam dgn air panas n urut urut tapi cam tak berjaya..
nak buat macammana yea..

limau_nipis · Post time 6-3-2009 03:51 PM

keras as in blocked milk duct?
cuba mandi bawah air panas sambil air tu kena kat breast.. sambil tu urut sikit demi sedikit

mula2 mmg tak nampak kesan, buat banyak kali baru ok

s2m3r · Post time 10-3-2009 12:09 PM

soalan pertama....bila dah ada susu..dah boleh perah..tapi make sure..jgn perah sama time dengan time bb nak menyusu..itu penting..takot nanti .. bila dah perah habis..bb sedot susu tak de..atau dengan kata lain flow susu dah makin sikit.....

soalan kedua...kalau nak beli boleh beli..tapi kalau tak beli pun tak per...bleh je panaskan susu dalam air panas..even jalan2 pun...bleh beli air panas dan rendam je susu dalam tuuuuu......

soalan ketiga....sama cam kawan2 lain...tapi kan lebih baik direct bf je...senang..tak yah susah2 nak carik air panas..dan bawak susu yang diperah tu.....hehehhe...tak riso susu tu elok ke tak....jgn malu2 nak bf bb di khalayak ramai.....skrang dah ada macam2 boleh cover tuk bf bb kan...

ummi_ina · Post time 11-3-2009 09:58 AM

Originally posted by s2m3r at 10-3-2009 12:09
soalan pertama....bila dah ada susu..dah boleh perah..tapi make sure..jgn perah sama time dengan time bb nak menyusu..itu penting..takot nanti .. bila dah perah habis..bb sedot susu tak de..atau ...

maaf ye s2m3r

untuk jawapan anda yang pertama tu rasanya kurang tepat...

sebaiknya perah pada masa yg sama baby menyusu
buat tandem nursing/pumping
lebih stimulate both breasts to produce more milk
tetambah lak masa dalam pantang
senang amat nak dapat letdown
takyah risau baby nak menyusu tapi susu dalam B habis
susu takkan habis selagi ada letdown

limau_nipis · Post time 11-3-2009 10:02 AM

additional info

Step 3: Pump More

Sometimes adding one more pumping session is all you need to do to get enough milk for your baby during the day. Did you know that your milk supply is highest in the morning? Take advantage of this fact to pump a little extra early in the day.

I'm pumping, but there's no milk!

The nurse-shower-pump routine: Depending on when your baby wakes up, you can sneak in an extra pumping session before you leave for work with this routine. Nurse your baby, then take a relaxing shower, then pump. Or, if your baby is a late sleeper, pump first, then shower, then nurse. The shower in the middle helps you relax and helps stimulates let-down for the second feeding/pumping session. Don't worry about pumping before your baby eats - your baby is much more efficient than any pump, and will be able to get plenty of milk. And remember, you're going to nurse again right before you leave, so he'll have another chance to fill up soon.

Another great time to pump is right when you get to work. But wait, you say, in Step 2 I just started nursing right before I left - my commute is only 20 minutes, and now I pump?? That's right! If you pump when you first get to work, you're not interrupting the flow of your day, you're more relaxed, and you're taking advantage of those high morning prolactin levels. If you're lucky enough to pump at your desk, it can also be a good opportunity to go through emails and voice mails. Make sure you learn the hands free pumping tricks!

Other tricks: Some moms nurse their baby on one side and pump the other. Others pump after their baby has gone to bed. A few particularly dedicated moms that I know have gone so far as to set an alarm and pump in the middle of the night - they had babies who slept through. It can be done!

But there's no milk!!

Maybe you've added a pumping session but you're not getting any more milk. Don't give up! Pumping more gives your body an important signal to make more milk. Keep pumping at that new time, and within a few days you will see your supply gradually start to increase. Even "dry-pumping", when nothing is coming out, is just a request to the kitchen to make more tomorrow. Stick with it a few days, and you'll see results.
If you never have much milk when you pump, see the tips for Better Pumping

s2m3r · Post time 11-3-2009 06:19 PM

Originally posted by ummi_ina at 11-3-2009 09:58 AM

maaf ye s2m3r

untuk jawapan anda yang pertama tu rasanya kurang tepat...

sebaiknya perah pada masa yg sama baby menyusu
buat tandem nursing/pumping
lebih stimulate both breasts to p ...

perah sama masa dengan bb menghisap boleh..itu pasal org galakkan double pumping....
maksod saya...in the meantime bb nak menyusu..kite baru habis memerah....
maknanya kite kena tau lah bila time bb menyusu supaya masa penyusuan dan masa memerah konsisten...

sorry ye kalau salah

limau_nipis · Post time 11-3-2009 09:19 PM

Originally posted by s2m3r at 11/3/09 18:19

perah sama masa dengan bb menghisap boleh..itu pasal org galakkan double pumping....
maksod saya...in the meantime bb nak menyusu..kite baru habis memerah....
maknanya kite kena tau lah b ...

tet salah pemahaman, maaf yer cakap
i selalu pump before bagi baby minum
in fact, susu mmg takkan kurang

kita selalu assume, kalau kita perah, tiba2 baby nak minum, susu tak cukup. that is wrong...
actually itu ler sebabnya Allah cipta letdown reflex.. so walaupun breast kempis, susu tu masih ada
sebab dah trigger signal ke otak, kita kena produce milk untuk ibu menyusu

so never fret, kalau time pump.. let say pump 20 mins, tiba2 baby bangun nak nyusu, confident susu sentiasa ada
in fact, kalau kita bagi baby minum lepas kita pump.. susu akan makin banyak, and vice versa (bfeed baru pump pun boleh banyakkan susu)
sebab kita bagi signal kat otak, kita perlu produce susu yang lebih

i always did this when my baby is less than 1 year old.. lagi la, tak menentu masa menyusu.. sampai masa tidur pun dah weng...
so kalau i nak agak masa baby nyusu, mmg very impossible..
so i just pump sesuka hati i, so bila baby bangun, i terus feed walaupun breast tu baru dipump